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Why doesn't DL like Elton John?

Writer Daniel Martin

I like him but most posts seem rather negative towards him. What baby seal did he club?

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by Anonymousreply 51May 8, 2022 4:46 PM

Isn't he self loathing and aligns with conservatives?

by Anonymousreply 1May 6, 2022 2:34 AM

Pals with Rush Limbaugh and Eminem, for starters.

by Anonymousreply 2May 6, 2022 2:34 AM

I haven't noticed anyone being meaner to him than anyone else.

by Anonymousreply 3May 6, 2022 2:34 AM

He's notoriously an asshole. And he performed for Rush Limbaugh.

by Anonymousreply 5May 6, 2022 2:37 AM

He was dragged kicking and screaming from the closet despite being visibly gay from space. For years he claimed he was bisexual and even married a woman. He's pretty messy.

by Anonymousreply 7May 6, 2022 2:38 AM

He reminds some of DLers of themselves. A lonely old queen who tries to hard to be with it.

by Anonymousreply 8May 6, 2022 2:40 AM

The vast majority of people who post on DL tend to dislike successful gay performers, especially those who are guilty of DL's biggest cardinal sin of all - getting old.

by Anonymousreply 9May 6, 2022 2:42 AM

R9 Yep they drool over straight and closet case performers yet treat the openly gay ones with contempt.

by Anonymousreply 10May 6, 2022 2:45 AM

He’s a cunt and his music sucks.

by Anonymousreply 11May 6, 2022 2:46 AM

He's annoying and embarrassing nowadays but he's not a severe cunt like Morrissey or Eric Clapton.

by Anonymousreply 12May 6, 2022 2:49 AM

You mean like Elton John does, R10?

by Anonymousreply 13May 6, 2022 2:49 AM

r9 In this case, the dislike of him is warranted. . .

Have you not heard of his legendary massive tantrums?

decades upon decades of tantrums... that aspect of him has not evolved over time.

It's really a wonder he hasn't been cancelled, called out or otherwise taken down... maybe they're just waiting for him to die. Though not sure how many will still be around to tell them.

by Anonymousreply 14May 6, 2022 2:49 AM

R13 Yes and that's why he gets so much hate here. It's not because of his annoying traits but because he is a DLer in real life.

by Anonymousreply 15May 6, 2022 2:50 AM

She's a fat, ugly, sweaty, cunty, nasty, uber-diva who treats common people like shit stain.

by Anonymousreply 16May 6, 2022 2:54 AM

This gay cutie covering Elton......

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by Anonymousreply 17May 6, 2022 2:55 AM

He’s not particularly pleasant and he sucks up to anti gay assholes. Why should we like him just because he’s gay but has a nasty personality?

by Anonymousreply 18May 6, 2022 2:58 AM

He seems like a thirsty chickenhawk. No #MeToo?

by Anonymousreply 19May 6, 2022 3:00 AM

You girls are slipping...Everyone knows how much DL loves Twentysomething Asian Guys who look like high schoolers...How did you miss THIS?...

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by Anonymousreply 20May 6, 2022 3:00 AM

That 'Reg Strikes Back' era and marrying a woman at the height of the AIDS crisis turned me off to him for years. But he has more than redeemed himself since then. He represents the gay community nobly.

by Anonymousreply 21May 6, 2022 3:01 AM

His music sucks. He's like Billy Joel, but British.

by Anonymousreply 22May 6, 2022 3:01 AM

Love his music, even when he was phoning it in between coke sprees and rent boy orgies in the ‘80s.

by Anonymousreply 23May 6, 2022 3:02 AM

Duh OP

Elton John is a successful out gay man, Of course they hate him

Worse still: He appears to be happy in a committed relationship AND he is successful in a field that many DLers once aspired to be successful in.

by Anonymousreply 24May 6, 2022 3:02 AM

I noticed a lot of gay male entertainers have mostly straight female followings. Elton John, George Michael, Boy George, Ricky Martin, Adam Lambert, Troye Sivan etc.

by Anonymousreply 25May 6, 2022 3:05 AM

don't respond to the troll

by Anonymousreply 26May 6, 2022 3:13 AM

R7- You're an idiot

Admitting you're bisexual in the 1970's was a BIG DEAL.

by Anonymousreply 28May 6, 2022 3:53 AM

A lot of bisexuals went back in the closet once HIV hit the scene like David Bowie.

by Anonymousreply 29May 6, 2022 3:55 AM

He viciously slapped Diana.

by Anonymousreply 30May 6, 2022 3:57 AM

I will always love Elton for I Guess That's Why They Call It the Blues. BEST. SONG. EVER. ❤🎶

by Anonymousreply 31May 6, 2022 4:00 AM

He played for Rush Limbaugh's wedding and his Broadway scores suck.

by Anonymousreply 32May 6, 2022 11:52 AM

Gay men don't like gay singers/celebrities in general, seeing how pretty much all gay icons are straight women, even ones who are openly homophobic like Nicki Minaj and Azealia Banks, and how the community drops pretty much all interest in a man once he finally comes out (Colton Haynes being the most recent example and probably Shawn Mendes in the future). And places like DL, atrl, gay twitter, and the gayer parts of reddit are quick to shred a gay celeb to pieces if they say dumb shit but ignore or giggle along when one of their preferred pop divas say dumb shit. And like R25 said, most gay male singers' fanbases are overwhelmingly straight women, whether they ever presented themselves as a heartthrob or not. At best gay guys will say how hot George and Ricky were but even gay guys from their respective regions would rather stan Kylie Minogue/Dua Lipa and Gloria Trevi/Anitta.

I'm curious about the phenomenon in the present day setting. The older gay icons I get since they were largely supportive of gay men when the general population wasn't, but these days every other celeb and their mother speaks how they just love gays and Troye Sivan has songs explicitly about gay relationships and gay sex but his fanbase sure as hell isn't gay men. Jealousy of a gay celebrity being successful and rich and fucking hotter men? Projecting their self loathing onto gay celebrities? Painful reminders of their own closeting (if the celebrity was ever closeted)? Wishing they could strut and flounce around like a woman? Identifying with women in general?

by Anonymousreply 34May 8, 2022 1:07 PM

Indeed r24. It’s a committed relationship where both parties are committed to playing around.

by Anonymousreply 35May 8, 2022 1:15 PM

I loved this mash-up/collaboration/animation comeback hit.

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by Anonymousreply 37May 8, 2022 1:25 PM

This video is absurd. We are supposed to believe this Commie broad wanted to fuck Dame Elton? She just wanted Elton’s pretty hat and car.

Elton John’s homosexuality is visible from space, and not just because of the size of her caftan.

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by Anonymousreply 39May 8, 2022 1:40 PM

Just this song alone redeems Elton forever

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by Anonymousreply 40May 8, 2022 1:40 PM

R40 perhaps my heart is half-dead and cold, but I’ve never liked ‘Your Song’. To my ears, it’s just congealing treacle.

Also, my closeted cousin serenaded his beard with it acoustically at their wedding, so I think the cringe of that has sunk the song further down in my estimations.

Do enjoy some of Elton/Bernie’s work, though. ‘Bennie & The Jets’ is an undeniable banger, full of creative verve and confidence, probably my favourite of the big hits. ‘Grey Seal’ and ‘Madman Across The Water’ are his best of the less popular cuts, imo.

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by Anonymousreply 41May 8, 2022 1:53 PM

The original source of ‘Cold cold heart’

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by Anonymousreply 42May 8, 2022 1:54 PM

Honky Cat was always my favorite.

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by Anonymousreply 43May 8, 2022 1:55 PM

His soundtrack for the animated Dreamworks film THE ROAD TO EL DORADO gets my respect. A very sensitive, wry, heartfelt and fun set of songs. Way better than that overcooked dreck for THE LION KING (which he didn’t actually do as much for as people assume).

‘Friends Never Say Goodbye’ makes me well up a bit, even during its scene in the movie. A really sad, sweet song about what it’s like to go seperate ways with someone who you still love but know you have to release if you’re ever to have a life you need.

Interestingly, THE ROAD TO EL DORADO was originally planned and pitched as a movie about two bisexual guys, rather than the straight buddy movie we got...

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by Anonymousreply 44May 8, 2022 1:57 PM

I love that he is wearing a caftan at R40

by Anonymousreply 45May 8, 2022 2:02 PM

A whole new generation of kids experiencing Elton

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by Anonymousreply 46May 8, 2022 2:04 PM

In his defense, the oppressive British conservatism of his youth combined with his awful abusive mother and homophobic father has indeed left Elton a broken and possibly self loathing person. The adulation of fame and wealth on a person with low self esteem turned him into a spoilt petulant child. He turned to drugs, booze, sex, shopping etc. to cope with low self esteem. As he has said, 'behind every creative person is a monster' and I'd have to agree, but that's no excuse.

He's very talented and very conflicted. He can be giving and cruel. He's open about all this which suggests he has some self awareness. Yes, he's a star fucker, but coming from the working class background he has, it would be impossible not to be. Sometimes I think he might possibly be on the bipolar spectrum; depression, outbursts of severe anger, heightened creativity, addiction, reckless spending. His mother had the same anger issues.

by Anonymousreply 47May 8, 2022 3:06 PM

A few years ago I saw a picture of him on his yacht in the Mediterranean, he was there with Lady Furnish, their new baby ( apparently there was a surrogate in london waiting to drop no 2) and the Neil Patrick Harris his husband and two kids. I thought, “ we’ll there you go, two families on vacation. It s like I always say, the only difference between gay parents and straight parents is… there is no difference. What could be more wholesome. Flash forward a few weeks, the Harris Burrka family is gone, the baby is back in london and Elton and Furnish have populated the boat with gay porn stars. I lost all respect for Elton. No, no and no. Im sorry. You are fathers now. You are fathers now. You belong at home with your child not partying with call boys in the south of France. If you are going to be parents then those days are over. I’ve had nothing but disgust for him since then.

by Anonymousreply 48May 8, 2022 3:23 PM

I agree r48, but some straight people behave like this too. But I've no respect for them either.

by Anonymousreply 49May 8, 2022 3:29 PM

r47 Or that he was just an ugly, obnoxious, too emotionally needy, attention whore... that talent, money, fame couldn't get him laid by the men he desired without having to pay for it, and he's been bitter ever since.

There are very few people (male, or female for that matter) that can honestly say they would have been masturbating to the thought of his naked body, let alone having sex with him if he was just an average guy.

He's always been fug and a tantrum throwing, emotionally unstable, man child.

This isn't even someone most people would be friends with in school.

Yes, yes, his history is sad, his life was pathetic but he was a rude, uncouth, ugly little troglodyte.

no, he's not on death row but still, let's be real about this.

by Anonymousreply 50May 8, 2022 4:38 PM

r50 um, you seem to think somebody's worth is all about fuckability. He went to The Royal Academy of Music. at age 11! He is very talented. You need to ask why was he an 'obnoxious, too emotionally needy, attention whore', and I never said he wasn't. His mother was an absolute monster.

I agree, 'There are very few people (male, or female for that matter) that can honestly say they would have been masturbating to the thought of his naked body, let alone having sex with him if he was just an average guy,' but how many people have enjoyed his music?

I feel sad for you if you think all a person is worth is their appearance or ability to get laid, however this is Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 51May 8, 2022 4:46 PM