Disturbing film, yet masterfully made. I never got why she didn't just divorce the asshole husband, though. Maybe it's because I'm a man and don't understand motherhood (or rather why she wouldn't just abandon the monster child and her encouraging husband and move to France or back to NYC). Hm.

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March 18, 2020 9:25 AM

I'm disturbed, yet somewhat aroused, by Kevin's extremely small t-shirts

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March 18, 2020 5:49 AM

Despite being an insufferably narcissistic faux-intellectual bimbo in real life, Ezra Miller proved he actually has talent in this film.

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March 18, 2020 5:52 AM

The problem with this film is that they try to make it seem like the hate between Kevin and Eva was double-sided, as if Eva's quiet resentment of Kevin was the reason he was the way that he was, but it didn't work. A mother's resentment does not a sociopathic killer make. I feel like every other mother resents their kid, but not every other kid becomes a school shooter.

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March 18, 2020 5:56 AM

Eva was a bad mom, a very bad mom! I have the prettiest mother, the nicest mother ever!

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March 18, 2020 6:04 AM

I felt like the point of the movie is that the kid tried to “beat” her by hurting everything she loved but in the end, he ended up just screwing himself over and she ended up stronger. I guess her love or sense of duty was stronger, perhaps? Not quite sure.

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March 18, 2020 6:21 AM

Eva was a masochist who routinely set herself up. Rule number one of parenting: if you even THINK your kid is a sociopath, don't let them get into things like archery or karate or hunting.

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March 18, 2020 6:28 AM

I never understood how she could love John C. Reilly's character enough to make herself miserable for the rest of her life. The movie never made him seem worth it enough.

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March 18, 2020 6:42 AM

R3 "A mother's resentment does not a school shooter make ". I've read the book and my interpretation was that Kevin was born neurologically and chemically "off ", AND was resented by Eva. And the father was just woefully naive. It was the combination of both factors that sent things over the edge.

I highly recommend the book as well. I've always thought the film was seriously underrated.

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March 18, 2020 8:49 AM

Exactly, R6. There's a local comedian who points out that the only people who still own machetes appear to be the parents of sociopathic sons who never leave the basement.

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March 18, 2020 8:58 AM

The book is a masterpiece and much more subtle than the film. The film seemed to decide on the fact that Kevin was born evil whereas the book leaves it less clear.

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March 18, 2020 9:02 AM

I hate to be the Read the Book troll but the book delves a bit deeper into some if the dynamics involved. And it leaves open to interpretation just how much Kevin actually did do, and what Eva was projecting onto him because of her resentment (though he is unequivocally guilty of the acts at the end of the book ) .By the time Kevin is in high school she does file for divorce and Kevin overhears the conversation. She speculates that this might have been a trigger for his actions. I do think the author made a mistake by not having the parents be more aggressive about seeking psychiatric help for Kevin. Not realistic for a wealthy and educated couple.

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March 18, 2020 9:02 AM

I thought it was believable.

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March 18, 2020 9:09 AM

Kinda off topic but one of John O Reilly's sons actually resembles Ezra Miller.

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March 18, 2020 9:12 AM

R11 Eva was wracked with guilt that motherhood didn't come naturally to her and that was what turned her son "evil". There's a lot going on in the book - she had a great life before settling down and she resented that, she didn't like her own son at all and resented him but also found herself with a child she suspected of being a sociopath but couldn't be sure if she'd made him that way.

She's a bad mother, she breaks her son's arm at one point. But I think the book deals better with the many, many questions in the whole situation. Is it possible to be born evil? Is evil created by bad parenting? What do we do when motherhood doesn't just happen? Are we right to blame the parents? Are parents right to blame themselves? It's an incredible book and I can't imagine how a film could do it justice.

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March 18, 2020 9:22 AM

Eat shit OP! Stop posting replies to yourself.

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March 18, 2020 9:25 AM