Twins!
Christopher Lucas 
Do breeders just let their kids roam free these days?
| by Anonymous | reply 1 | September 6, 2023 4:56 AM |
[quote] At this time, we don’t know if this is an accident or if foul play is involved.
Damned small, foreign factions!
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | September 6, 2023 5:05 AM |
The older brother found the bodies.
File under “things that make you go “hmmmmm” am I right?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 3 | September 6, 2023 5:10 AM |
Do they make toy chest to be air tight these days? Did Toy Story scare people that much?
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | September 6, 2023 5:10 AM |
The mother’s FB post seems oddly detached or casual (or maybe I’m just reading it that way).
I’m 53, when I was young we had a toy chest with a very heavy lid. It wasn’t cedar and I think it had slats, so not airtight, but I definitely think it could have been dangerous.
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | September 6, 2023 5:17 AM |
Now why didn't we think of that?
| by Anonymous | reply 6 | September 6, 2023 5:18 AM |
Yeeeaaah, something's not right here.
| by Anonymous | reply 7 | September 6, 2023 5:24 AM |
The story says that they were using an old cedar chest to store their stuffed animals. It’s probably something the mom “up-cycled” with a coat of milk paint.
Those Lane cedar chests are notorious death traps. Scores of children over the years, generally playing hide-and-seek, have died this way, so much so that the company will send anyone who has one of any age a new closure mechanism which doesn’t latch.
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | September 6, 2023 5:28 AM |
r9 Those chests literally look like coffins.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 10 | September 6, 2023 5:33 AM |
Well that certainly makes this ad seem a lot more sinister.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 11 | September 6, 2023 5:37 AM |
They'll go on to haunt the Overlook Hotel.
| by Anonymous | reply 12 | September 6, 2023 5:49 AM |
Surely a Gofunder can ease their pain.?
| by Anonymous | reply 14 | September 6, 2023 6:31 AM |
It’s already raised $19,000.
| by Anonymous | reply 15 | September 6, 2023 1:45 PM |
Aurora and Kellan? we just letting that sail by?
| by Anonymous | reply 16 | September 6, 2023 2:08 PM |
Didn’t know you could get hermetically sealed into a cedar chest
| by Anonymous | reply 17 | September 6, 2023 2:18 PM |
“That’s why we call it a hope chest, Dear”
-Marge, mother of eight
| by Anonymous | reply 18 | September 6, 2023 2:26 PM |
By all means let’s reward their shitty parenting with money. That will make everything ok. What fucking dumbasses.
| by Anonymous | reply 20 | September 6, 2023 2:40 PM |
I realize the family is Floridian trash, but it’s disingenuous to refer to it as a “cedar toy chest.” It was a real chest, made from heavy wood, which was used to store their Dollar General toys.
| by Anonymous | reply 21 | September 6, 2023 2:55 PM |
why are toy boxes air tight and soundproof? are they afraid the toys may escape?
| by Anonymous | reply 22 | September 6, 2023 2:57 PM |
I don’t know about this…I feel an arrest of a parent coming soon
| by Anonymous | reply 23 | September 6, 2023 2:59 PM |
I guess it’s an easy , less messy way to get rid of unattractive children
| by Anonymous | reply 24 | September 6, 2023 3:01 PM |
… and getting rid of two for the price of one.
| by Anonymous | reply 25 | September 6, 2023 3:05 PM |
The weird details like about exactly when they went in the box and the supposition that they kicked the lid shut. It just seems like weird additional details you wouldn't even think to recount unless you were making up a story. Like someone mentioned it's such a clinically detached cadence in the post. On the other hand I imagine you might be a bit numb and detached just to survive losing to kids so idk.
| by Anonymous | reply 26 | September 6, 2023 3:10 PM |
The whole protecting them from future tragedy was also odd to me Like why those two and not the other kids. Just weird.
| by Anonymous | reply 27 | September 6, 2023 3:12 PM |
The one on the left looks like a gremlin
| by Anonymous | reply 28 | September 6, 2023 3:13 PM |
Yeah, I don't buy for one second that this was an accident.
| by Anonymous | reply 29 | September 6, 2023 3:17 PM |
R11 I have the largest one featured on that ad. Was 10.00 and I stripped and refinished it, has lovely teak veneer under the yellowed varnish. It makes for a good bench for the dogs, and stores my off season wardrobe nicely. They were all over FB marketplace at the end of 2020, but their prices skyrocketed after a few months of getting steals. I love cedar and the original lock is still in tact. There are never children in my bedroom so it hasn't posed any problems.
It's quite possible it was accidental, the lid is heavy as hell. But, you'd have to be a complete idiot to let kids play with one with an intact lock or use for their toys, Fisher Price plastic has a time and a place. If you start researching these chests the dangers of suffocating are always mentioned. Multiple times.
| by Anonymous | reply 30 | September 6, 2023 3:31 PM |
The one on the left was unfortunate looking. Murder suicide?
| by Anonymous | reply 31 | September 6, 2023 3:35 PM |
The story sounds fishy. And I’m sorry, but according to the parents, all their godforsaken children do is play from sun up to sun down.
| by Anonymous | reply 32 | September 6, 2023 3:38 PM |
If they keep them in the toy chest they can save money on a baby casket.
| by Anonymous | reply 33 | September 6, 2023 3:43 PM |
Why is anyone giving their fat mother cash? Is she supposed to buy her kids back from Satan?
| by Anonymous | reply 34 | September 6, 2023 3:51 PM |
R34, you’re going straight to hell! ..and I’m going with you for laughing so hard.
| by Anonymous | reply 35 | September 6, 2023 4:00 PM |
They look like Giudice trolls…no wonder…….
| by Anonymous | reply 36 | September 6, 2023 4:15 PM |
I have my mother's old Lane cedar chest. Right now it's filled with Costco toilet paper. I will say there is no way anyone should ever let little kids near one of t hese. The lids are very heavy.Now, if I were the medical examiner, I'd definitely try to determine the cause of death. Because they could have gone into the chest unconscious. No way they "fell asleep. " they suffocated.
| by Anonymous | reply 37 | September 6, 2023 4:22 PM |
That mother's explanation of what happened was riddled with guilty knowledge. Even if the kids were playing in the cedar chest and fell asleep, how the fuck would you not hear the cedar chest lid slamming shut. My theory is that the twins were already dead and they put them in the cedar chest to create an alibi. That makes the most sense.
| by Anonymous | reply 38 | September 6, 2023 4:28 PM |
Leave em in the chest and save the cost of a funeral then rent out the residence as a Haunted BNB.
| by Anonymous | reply 40 | September 6, 2023 4:31 PM |
we need more Chest Control in this country
| by Anonymous | reply 41 | September 6, 2023 4:58 PM |
I invested in the wrong chest.
| by Anonymous | reply 42 | September 6, 2023 5:01 PM |
Remember when Ikea furniture was killing kids? Those were the days!
| by Anonymous | reply 43 | September 6, 2023 5:01 PM |
R41 we need more idiot control. The damned things have hanging tag warnings, cardboard insert warnings, and services for lock removal.
Also those kids would've had a good bit of upper body strength just to open a Lane. Unless it's one of the most recently made, with a lighter lid, but they also require you to press the lock and lift to open most. Very dexterous children of the damned, or IDIOT breeder parents. 🙄
| by Anonymous | reply 44 | September 6, 2023 5:05 PM |
[quote]Also those kids would've had a good bit of upper body strength just to open a Lane.
Not if their fat mother was sitting on the lid.
| by Anonymous | reply 45 | September 6, 2023 5:07 PM |
Well, they've learned from the mistakes of other people.
Keep the story simple. Don't go for the big splashy news conference begging for the kids to come home or be returned.
Plausible deniability is the phrase of the day.
| by Anonymous | reply 46 | September 6, 2023 5:30 PM |
This is ridiculous. Like someone above said, the lid closing would be loud enough to warrant a parent checking in on the kids.
I'm sorry, but any adult who isn't a meth head knows children shouldn't play in chests. Just like kids shouldn't hide in old refrigerators. All toy boxes now are built with air holes and slow closing lids.
Best case scenario is the parents are absolute morons and they did die in the chest. If so, those children suffered a terrible death.
It's either neglect or murder, but it's not a freak accident.
Florida is just one constant stream of human awfulness.
| by Anonymous | reply 47 | September 6, 2023 5:44 PM |
Nearly $25,000! Brava, my dear. Brava!
| by Anonymous | reply 48 | September 6, 2023 5:45 PM |
By their own reports, the boys played outside while the parents slept. The twins played at night and early morning while the parents slept. What could possibly go wrong?
| by Anonymous | reply 49 | September 6, 2023 5:50 PM |
"Something I did not know and I’m sure many others don’t know is that most wooden toy chests once closed are AIR TIGHT and also sound proof," she continued. "So as they slept, all snuggled up together, they slowly ran out of oxygen."
No, most everyone does know that about cedar chests. If they wanted to put it in their room, all they needed to do was add an opening and remove the lock. This is asinine. Knowing that your children get up in the middle of the night and play unattended is even more reason to not put dangerous furniture in their room.
It sounded like she was annoyed with them "waking each other up." Most parents of recently deceased children don't speak of the child critically at all. Well, I got that info from a documentary, but still. It seems odd.
Those children did not simply slip away whilst in a peaceful slumber. I'm glad the sheriff said an investigation is pending, and they aren't ready to call it an accident yet.
| by Anonymous | reply 50 | September 6, 2023 5:56 PM |
Are we sure it was a repurposed cedar chest? I'm thinking mom laid their old refrigerator on it's side and plastered Barbi stickers all over it.
| by Anonymous | reply 51 | September 6, 2023 5:56 PM |
Omg. How awfull. I've got twin granddaughters the same age. They were in the house with me when a landslide destroyed our home. I think about that everyday and thank God they were OK. This is horrible.. R.I.P.
| by Anonymous | reply 52 | September 6, 2023 5:58 PM |
"As they slept, all snuggled up together, they slowly ran out of oxygen within a couple of hours and passed away. They never even knew it was happening. There was no sudden gasp for air, it was a very slow transition from sleep to passing on…." she says.
I found this in a different article. Describing what the death was like when you supposedly did not witness it is very suspicious to me.
| by Anonymous | reply 53 | September 6, 2023 5:59 PM |
911 responded around noon. Does that sound like a reasonable time to be getting out of bed to get ready for work? A time of day where a parent would assume their 4 year old twins would still be sleeping?
It sounds as though the father was still in bed, too.
Scumbags.
| by Anonymous | reply 54 | September 6, 2023 6:03 PM |
How long before Children's Services removes the other kids from the house?
| by Anonymous | reply 55 | September 6, 2023 6:06 PM |
Poor little guy was quite unfortunate looking. The girl wasn't as bad. RIP
| by Anonymous | reply 56 | September 6, 2023 6:13 PM |
The parents lullaby description of their death seems way off. How they seem know their transition was so loving and peaceful? Most parents would react by saying, "I hope they didn't suffer, my dear angels", not: "It was so peaceful, they never knew a thing, no gasping or thrashing". Yikes.
| by Anonymous | reply 57 | September 6, 2023 6:24 PM |
The following is from the mother's Facebook post. The overelaboration of certain details and the complete fantasy of much of it raise a number of red flags.
"Last Friday night while I was at work, don put the boys and the twins to bed, then soon after went to bed himself… When I got home from work a couple hours later I looked in at all the kids like usual to make sure they were sleeping, then ate my dinner and went to sleep… At some point early that morning the twins woke each other up and decided they wanted to play in their room rather than sleep, they do this a lot, it’s just a twin thing I guess, and then they usually fall asleep in some weird place in their room with toys left everywhere so mom and dad can see proof of their late night playing when we get up in the morning… Friday night the weird place they decided to snuggle up and go back to sleep was in their cedar toy chest that we use to store all their stuffed animals.. They pulled out all but a couple stuffed animals, I guess they left some to keep it comfy in there, then they laid inside head to toe with one arm each over their twin and I’m assuming said “good night kell kell” and “night night sissy”… Sometime during their sleep one of them must have moved or kicked during a dream and it caused the lid of this old wooden cedar chest to close… Something I did not know and I’m sure many others don’t know is that most wooden toy chests once closed are AIR TIGHT and also sound proof. So as they slept, all snuggled up together, they slowly ran out of oxygen within a couple of hours and passed away. They never even knew it was happening. There was no sudden gasp for air, it was a very slow transition from sleep to passing on…. "
| by Anonymous | reply 58 | September 6, 2023 6:28 PM |
When you have toddlers play with a Lane Cedar Chest, even if they didn't get in it, that lid could slam down and smash tiny fingers or break an arm. it's dangerous. She killed those kids or the husband did it. Something is definitely off. My mother got one for a pre wedding gift back in the '50's. It was in her bedroom and she stored linens and stuff. We were never allowed near it.I remember being curious to see what was in it but it was too hard for me to open. You had to push the button in and lift it and I was 7-8 and just couldn't do it.
| by Anonymous | reply 59 | September 6, 2023 6:33 PM |
Yeah this was no accident. Her facebook post is bonkers. Most parents lay low after a tragedy like this and communicate through a family spokesperson.
The poster saying a normal response is to pray they didn't suffer, not spin a yarn where they died "peacefully." They suffocated while you slept, lady. Nothing peaceful about it.
| by Anonymous | reply 60 | September 6, 2023 6:38 PM |
She calls it a "wooden toy chest." It's a heavy wooden chest she got at a flea market somewhere, not a "toy chest."
Even if it happened like she said, she and her husband are at fault. They brought a heavy wooden death trap into their house for no good reason and let their kids have unsupervised access 24/7. Morons.
| by Anonymous | reply 61 | September 6, 2023 6:44 PM |
Yes, the elaborate fairytale Mommy posted on FB is what rouses my suspicion. How many times has the guilty party concocted a story of plausibility worthy of a Lifetime or Hallmark movie, only to be hauled off in cuffs? Social media and things like GFM have made it worse. The family wants their fifteen minutes and money, lots and lots of money.
"Has Orcah called yet? Meagain? Drew? Kelly? Maybe Shania will want to write a song about me! How's the GoFundMe doing? Is that all? Fuck! Cheap assholes!"
I recall when I was a kid, they began producing plastic toy chests which could easily snap apart in situations like this.
| by Anonymous | reply 62 | September 6, 2023 6:45 PM |
Would it be in bad taste to express ourselves on their go fund me the way we are doing it here on DL? Or bad taste to at least bring up how dicey this whole thing is?
| by Anonymous | reply 63 | September 6, 2023 7:06 PM |
Donate $$ and accuse them of murder, R63. That'd be hilarious.
| by Anonymous | reply 64 | September 6, 2023 7:08 PM |
I can tell you, r63, that when I was in mourning after the small, foreign faction or hobo killed my beloved JonBenét, any expression of concern was a balm on my heart, even the ones who were less than kind. It was a comfort to know people cared.
| by Anonymous | reply 65 | September 6, 2023 7:10 PM |
The suggestion to leave them in there and save money on a casket made me spit coffee.
I love you bitches.
| by Anonymous | reply 67 | September 6, 2023 7:17 PM |
Well, the one on the left was never going to be pageant material, but with a little make up and some sequins, the other one might have had some success. Shame they couldn’t have arranged for the pretty one to have slept at grandmas or something. Oh, well.
| by Anonymous | reply 68 | September 6, 2023 7:21 PM |
$20 donated by Kiddie Killer
| by Anonymous | reply 69 | September 6, 2023 7:23 PM |
$10 donated by Twin Torture
| by Anonymous | reply 70 | September 6, 2023 7:24 PM |
Some fool gave those parents $5,000!!!
For not supervising their kids.
The world of the heterosexual etc.
| by Anonymous | reply 71 | September 6, 2023 7:26 PM |
I assume the $5,000 is for legal fees.
| by Anonymous | reply 72 | September 6, 2023 8:16 PM |
Did she read them Goodnight Moonface before they went to sleep? Or maybe just to the one on the left?
| by Anonymous | reply 73 | September 6, 2023 8:49 PM |
Why didn’t mommy dear just put the twins toys in an old, empty refrigerator with the door still attached
| by Anonymous | reply 74 | September 6, 2023 8:56 PM |
Other mom excuses: The sweet girls were just learning to write and draw, and they made beautiful abstract scratch marks under the lid. And they both were anal retentive and had been using their cozy toy box to make number 2, that's why there was two weeks of shit in the box.
| by Anonymous | reply 75 | September 6, 2023 9:09 PM |
It was probably the dad but the most information we need to know is if he’s hot because that’s going to determine if I care or not
| by Anonymous | reply 76 | September 6, 2023 10:25 PM |
I make a kind of iffy remark on Facebook…not snarky, just questioning the whole incident…Of course, according to some Karen I was “ parent shaming” and I should be ashamed…how dare I question when the “autopsy said” the little darlings went off to heaven without a hitch. I replied back and it was promptly removed by the person I responded to..I did tell her nope, I wasn’t tashamed and trust me lady, I’m not the only one questioning their deaths
| by Anonymous | reply 77 | September 7, 2023 12:23 AM |
Maybe Patsy Ramsey should donate to them and express her admiration
| by Anonymous | reply 78 | September 7, 2023 1:22 AM |
“ I do know is that I NEED to live for my two amazing big boys, and I WILL, I will make it my sole purpose to give them the most amazing lives, to not let this cause any life long damage to their mental state.".
👆🏼. This doesn’t sound right either . Sounds like she’s going to put this all behind her
| by Anonymous | reply 79 | September 7, 2023 1:41 AM |
If I, a childless homosexual of a similar age who has never childproofed a home, knew that these cedar chests were death traps then it is expected that a father and mother should have as well.
If it was not just a stupid accident, all signs point to Father. He was the one who put them to bed. Mother, who is giving the family’s version of events, didn’t visually check that they were in their beds when she got home from work.
The fact that 911 wasn’t called until noon, if that’s true from upthread, is a huge read flag. Why was there a pause between breakfast, when a parent would surely miss their twin 2 year-olds, and the call to 911? Even if the children had simply wandered into the woods behind the house, that amount of time would raise questions with CPS.
| by Anonymous | reply 80 | September 7, 2023 1:42 AM |
Sounds like investigators are suspicious
| by Anonymous | reply 81 | September 7, 2023 1:45 AM |
Do we know if they died of natural causes?
| by Anonymous | reply 82 | September 7, 2023 1:47 AM |
[quote] ‘As much as these wonderful parents have tried to blame themselves, they can’t,’ wrote Myers’ sister in a GoFundMe page to help the family.
Well, that certainly is a way to look at it.
There are pictures of the dad on the Gofundme page and he’s not good-looking so obviously he’s guilty.
| by Anonymous | reply 83 | September 7, 2023 2:02 AM |
My brother and sister used to get up in the middle of the night and play and nobody was ever injured or killed.
| by Anonymous | reply 84 | September 7, 2023 2:37 AM |
You are all being disgraceful.
| by Anonymous | reply 85 | September 7, 2023 3:09 AM |
R85 is a glib, humorless, prisspot, unclench your pearls and get your critical thinking cap on, a brain is a terrible thing to waste.
| by Anonymous | reply 86 | September 7, 2023 3:19 AM |
I’d love to comment, but I find the idea of a cash bonus for a child’s death to be rather ghoulish.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 87 | September 7, 2023 4:40 AM |
I've laughed a few times at this thread but really, I think too many of you are being brutally and unnecessarily unfair to the parents. The link below is to a People.com article where the mom goes into more detail.
I have an antique cedar chest too but honestly, if it were being used as a toy box, I don't think I'd ever consider it as an immediate thread if the lock were disabled. People make mistakes. Contrary to all the hate the mother is getting, she does state that she had something on the box to prevent it from locking and she thought it also prevented it from closing all the way. So it seems like she did try to take precautions.
It's also 2023, so no doubt the parents realize people are going to suspect them because we're all so cynical these days, which is maybe why the mom gave a detailed posting of what happened. Maybe wait to see if the police come up with anything suspicious and if not, have some sympathy for these folks. Their kids seemed to be taken care of, the mom and dad clearly encouraged them to play. Judging from the couple of pics on People, they weren't well off or even upper middle class types. The default heat some of you give off in these situations surprises even me, and I'm a pretty cynical asshole most of the time. No reason why the parents can't be sympathized with unless and until we learn something isn't right.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 88 | September 7, 2023 2:24 PM |
The whole point b of a toy box is to teach kids to put things away, but also so that the toys are accessible. What's the point of having all these favorite stuffed toys if the kids can't get to them. So the cedar chest was a magnet for the kids and it was a real unsafe way to store toys. I still say foul play. Maybe her older boys did it as a joke. Lock them in the toy box so they could go outside. Maybe the husband did it. Who knows. But they didn't do it on their own. This was no accident
| by Anonymous | reply 89 | September 7, 2023 2:34 PM |
R89 - Interesting that you keep promoting suspicion to be put on the males of the family but not the mother. And your "But they didn't do it on their own" comment. What do you know the rest of us don't? How do you happen to know this so confidently, other than hoping, with wringing hands, that one of the male children or the father killed them, because you're one of those women who get off on such things, aren't you? The MEN always do it, right R89?
| by Anonymous | reply 90 | September 7, 2023 2:39 PM |
[quote] The default heat some of you give off in these situations surprises even me, and I'm a pretty cynical asshole most of the time. No reason why the parents can't be sympathized with unless and until we learn something isn't right.
R88, while I don’t necessarily disagree with you I believe the reason most take the position they do in these cases is that we as gay people have been told for so long we are unfit to have or raise children, which is obviously untrue.
| by Anonymous | reply 91 | September 7, 2023 2:51 PM |
They used to sell these toy chests at The Abortion Hut.
| by Anonymous | reply 92 | September 7, 2023 2:55 PM |
Things Not to Do When Two of Your Kids Die Suddenly:
* Run to make a lengthy, detailed Facebook post about it, going on and on about exactly how you think their demise occurred.
* Set up a GoFundMe, or allow others to do so.
| by Anonymous | reply 93 | September 7, 2023 3:11 PM |
R88
“ Contrary to all the hate the mother is getting, she does state that she had something on the box to prevent it from locking and she thought it also prevented it from closing all the way. So it seems like she did try to take precautions”
This tells me she KNEW using this as a toy box was dangerous…if you need to take that many precautions, most intelligent people would no not to use it to hold toddlers toys
| by Anonymous | reply 94 | September 7, 2023 3:17 PM |
Mom goes into specific details about her kids but doesn't go into details about what precautions she took to keep the lid open.
| by Anonymous | reply 95 | September 7, 2023 3:21 PM |
Hello, mother!
Come play with us, forever and ever and ever...
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 96 | September 7, 2023 7:35 PM |
The gaskets on the lid and that darling little steel latch that clicked when the lid closed were such creative additions to a drab old box.
It's attention to decorative details that get the job done.
| by Anonymous | reply 97 | September 7, 2023 7:46 PM |
The kid on the left looks like Lewis Capaldi.
| by Anonymous | reply 98 | September 7, 2023 8:07 PM |
R90, you seem nuts. I am not a woman. Not even close. But I am going by the comment the mother made that she was not there, she was at work. Asshole. There's no psycho hang up that I have that insists on blaming the men and not the woman.
| by Anonymous | reply 100 | September 7, 2023 10:32 PM |
[quote]But I am going by the comment the mother made that she was not there, she was at work.
She didn't say that, because she wasn't R100.
According to her story: She came home from work, looked in on her little darlings sleeping, ate her dinner, then went to bed herself. (Hubby was already in bed when she got home.)
| by Anonymous | reply 101 | September 7, 2023 11:48 PM |
The one on the left looks retarded.
| by Anonymous | reply 103 | September 8, 2023 12:08 AM |
I think it’s mean the little girl on the left had to dress like a frog and not a princess like her sister.
| by Anonymous | reply 107 | September 8, 2023 12:51 AM |
[quote]I think it’s mean the little girl on the left had to dress like a frog and not a princess like her sister.
You go with your strengths.
| by Anonymous | reply 108 | September 8, 2023 1:01 AM |
R96, good lord, those girls are homely . Pure English is fugly
| by Anonymous | reply 109 | September 8, 2023 1:22 AM |
I seem to recall "hiding" in my toy box when I was little. Sometimes for hours. It was plastic and shaped like a football. Obviously, I was fine. An "airtight" toy box doesn't seem child friendly for this very reason.
| by Anonymous | reply 110 | September 8, 2023 2:16 AM |
This reminds me of how more kid in hot car deaths should be investigated as homicide. What an "unfortunate" turn of events for the parents
| by Anonymous | reply 111 | September 8, 2023 2:32 AM |
"So as they slept, all snuggled up together" Sure Mom, and they were dreaming of candy too.
I have a 1930s-early 1940s (or earlier) cedar chest that is blonde wood with extensive lighter colored woodcarving for the trim, as if it was meant to be a wedding cake, with a waterfall front edge and interior tray that lifts with the lid. I don't know if it's a Lane - I always felt it was carved in Germany because of the exquisite detailing. I should look for a mark. It is tremendously heavy. 20 years ago I paid $500 to have it shipped across country.
Anyway, I don't think a 4 year old would be able to lift it, maybe 2 four year olds they could manage it, but even so the lifted tray is an obstacle. Poor tykes.
| by Anonymous | reply 112 | September 8, 2023 3:27 AM |
How are these people so careless with their children? I use more caution with my cats then a lot of these breeders do with their spawn
| by Anonymous | reply 113 | September 8, 2023 3:35 AM |
My mother's Lane Cedar Chest was a gift from her parents to keep her linens in. My Gran even crocheted lace trim on pillow cases and sheets,etc. When she died I decided to keep it because it held memories for me of family. It also has that tray that comes out with the lid. Very very heavy. My mother got married to my father in 1940. So I assume the chest was made then or a year or two earlier. It is super heavy and yes, you had to push the button to get it to open. There is no way in hell two little girls aged four did it by themselves. I just cannot believe/accept that.
| by Anonymous | reply 114 | September 8, 2023 3:36 AM |
It was the dad. DNA tests will prove the twins aren’t his and he wanted the permanent twin reminders of his wife’s infidelity removed.
| by Anonymous | reply 115 | September 8, 2023 4:11 AM |
Winners of the Baby Darwin Award Pageant. Well…the one on the right. That’s one unfortunate looking mouth breather on the left. She probably swallowed all the available oxygen in one drooling gulp.
| by Anonymous | reply 116 | September 8, 2023 4:44 AM |
Aww, I think they're typically cute four year olds. Poor little fellas. The one on the left is a boy with long hair. They aren't clear enough on that in the articles.
I'm guessing they'll find the time of death was something like 8:00 PM, therefore the twins were unattended for nearly 16 hours. That would go against the mother's statement. Or they'll find benadryl in their system. Maybe the mother was overwhelmed since the twins' arrival. They had time in a NICU, which can greatly increase the risk of post partum depression. They got into everything, even making messes in the middle of the night. The mom snapped, drugged them, placed them in the chest and closed the lid. She sat by it, numb. That's how she knows it's soundproof (her word) and that the twins went quietly, not even a gasp at the end. She just wanted things to be back to what they were like before the babies were born. She didn't want them to suffer, but she also didn't want them anymore.
Or they are addicts and were out of it. The older boys locked the twins in the chest as a joke, not realizing they wouldn't be able to breathe.
There's no way to accidentally close the lid when you're a sleeping toddler. That makes no sense. It's not normal for parents of four year olds to sleep until nearly noon. It's not normal for those parents to wait until almost noon to check on their supposedly sleeping four year olds. It's not normal for a mother to speak this way after a shocking loss. The father just explained to the kids that "death is a part of life"? And that was that. Her description of events sounds as though her and her husband had a panicked conversation and created the narrative they're following. It just doesn't ring true.
She said the kids are staying with relatives while they are dealing with the loss. Maybe the kids are staying elsewhere at the insistence of CPS.
Right. Apparently I over write when stoned. For some reason this situation struck a chord with me. I'm surprised more people aren't bringing up the red flags in online comments. Hopefully the medical examiner and detectives find all the evidence they need if there was neglect or homicide.
| by Anonymous | reply 117 | September 8, 2023 5:42 AM |
A lot of nasty people on this thread. Poor little kids.
| by Anonymous | reply 118 | September 8, 2023 6:03 AM |
Lord knows I’ve grown quite accustomed to seeing imposters here on Datalounge. I suppose, in some sick way, you mean it as a compliment.
But in my own thread?
| by Anonymous | reply 119 | September 8, 2023 6:14 AM |
^It is I, Mrs. Patsy Ramsey, formerly of Boulder CO, for those too lazy to notice that I am the OP.
| by Anonymous | reply 120 | September 8, 2023 6:15 AM |
[quote] Winners of the Baby Darwin Award Pageant. Well…the one on the right. That’s one unfortunate looking mouth breather on the left. She probably swallowed all the available oxygen in one drooling gulp.
r116 The twin on the left is a boy, you repulsive ghoul.
| by Anonymous | reply 121 | September 8, 2023 6:22 AM |
The mother probably ate her dinner on top of the toy chest until the cries from within became fainter and fainter.
| by Anonymous | reply 122 | September 8, 2023 10:54 AM |
Sounds like foul play to me.
The mother's account of how it happened reads like someone who's trying to make the facts bend to a particular narrative, rather than an account of what actually happened. There's also too much explanation with phrases like "they do this a lot", which sounds like she's trying to convince people who might be doubtful.
Maybe I'm overly suspicious, but something feels off.
| by Anonymous | reply 123 | September 8, 2023 11:20 AM |
[quote]Poor tykes.
How do you know they were lesbians?
| by Anonymous | reply 124 | September 8, 2023 11:31 AM |
Sad and needs to be investigated. That mother's post is fucking creepy.
| by Anonymous | reply 125 | September 8, 2023 11:58 AM |
We have done a lot of shit when we were little but we haven't pulled shit a chest and fell asleep. Does it snap shut when you close it? If yes, how fucking horrible.
| by Anonymous | reply 126 | September 8, 2023 12:11 PM |
R117 it seems like the mom of the twins (I swear I thought the one in the frog costume was a boy) took lessons from our very own tot mom Miss Casey Anthony on how to put children to sleep safely and forever……
R111 after living in Floriduh for twenty yrs, yes, they did go after the parents and bus drivers who left the babies to fry in hot vehicles
As of yesterday a report said they were still investigating the twins death (murder) contrary to those on Facebook who claimed the autopsy showed it was just a silly accident and let’s just move on…….
As snarky as I am, I’m furious over this……as a poster said above, I take more precautions with my beloved cats, least anything might happen to them and good god, if something did, my grief would be so deep I wouldnt take right to Facebook begging for money
| by Anonymous | reply 127 | September 8, 2023 2:41 PM |
The little boy looked like Mason Reese.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 128 | September 8, 2023 4:59 PM |
The little boy looked like Mason Reese
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 129 | September 8, 2023 5:01 PM |
What kind of parent lets their kids sleep until noon?
What kind of parent wouldn't at least peek in on them first thing? Okay, I get it's summer, they're 2, what's the big rush to get them up and out of bed, but kids usually wake up early and hungry. Not buying that sleeping past noon was "normal" for these two two year olds who were apparently unsupervised a lot at home.
I'm thinking one or both parents have a substance abuse problem and were "sleeping it off" habitually. The mom works night shift so I understand she has an excuse for "sleeping in" since she works late, but the dad? Does he even work? Even if heks the stay at home parent, he's going to bed before the mom gets home so surely he's up earlier too? I mean, "stay at home" means watch the kids, right? Unless...
| by Anonymous | reply 130 | September 8, 2023 5:16 PM |
Dear R121. What the fuck do you expect here?? Perhaps you should run back to Reddit or better yet, Parenting Magazine.
Scold scold scold. Fuck off, cunt!
| by Anonymous | reply 131 | September 8, 2023 6:41 PM |
Oh, and for those that didn’t know, R121 is a Russian apologist and MAGAT.
Seems about right.
| by Anonymous | reply 132 | September 8, 2023 6:45 PM |
Hmmmmm..how long did it take for the pissing contest to begin on the thread?? Three days? Is that some kind of DL record...I guess the death of twins deserves a couple of days without cat fights
| by Anonymous | reply 133 | September 8, 2023 6:48 PM |
The little boy looked like Rocky Dennis.
| by Anonymous | reply 134 | September 8, 2023 6:57 PM |
[quote] Oh, and for those that didn’t know, [R121] is a Russian apologist and MAGAT.
r132 Uh, I'm a SoCal surfer dude, I'm voting for Cornel West, and I support his opposition to this Neo-Con boondoggle in Ukraine.
And you're some creep who mocks these poor little kids who died in a tragedy, you fucking ghoul.
| by Anonymous | reply 135 | September 8, 2023 7:26 PM |
Heaven needed another princess, and a frog, I guess.
| by Anonymous | reply 136 | September 8, 2023 7:28 PM |
Sure dear R135. You’re even dumber than I accused you of being. Again…what the fuck are you doing here?? Go away you humorless little twat.
It must be fucking exhausting to be around you.
| by Anonymous | reply 137 | September 8, 2023 10:40 PM |
Also, R135, it sure is a coincidence that the talking points for “Cornel West supporters” are exactly the same as QAnon/MAGA lunatics…and RFKJR supporters. Gosh…I wonder why???
| by Anonymous | reply 138 | September 8, 2023 10:42 PM |
I remember my sister, along with all the graduating girls in her public high school, getting a miniature hope chest from Lane’s her senior year. Such different times!
| by Anonymous | reply 139 | September 8, 2023 11:12 PM |
What's with all the priggish scolds in this thread. Did you get here accidentally while trying to click on to one of your mommy blogs?
| by Anonymous | reply 140 | September 8, 2023 11:24 PM |
[quote] The older brother found the bodies.
Why do they ALWAYS blame the brother?!!
| by Anonymous | reply 141 | September 8, 2023 11:30 PM |
R139 Different times, indeed. Let's sit together in our rocking chairs with a nice mug of Earl Grey.
| by Anonymous | reply 142 | September 9, 2023 12:09 AM |
139, they are highly collectible and sell for about $25-50 a piece, depending on a few variables such as date and location. They all have the name of the presenting furniture store and its location stamped on the underside of the top and the avid collectors tend to focus on a region or state or try to get all of the states. I have a small collection. They were made by the company from the cedar scraps from the production of the large ones and were given to graduating girls because it was assumed they would shortly be setting up their first homes and decide to buy a cedar chest.
| by Anonymous | reply 143 | September 9, 2023 12:25 AM |
[quote] they are highly collectible and sell for about $25-50 a piece
Is that with or without a dead child inside?
| by Anonymous | reply 144 | September 9, 2023 2:49 AM |
This one comes with two dead kids inside so is even more highly collectible R144.
| by Anonymous | reply 145 | September 9, 2023 4:13 AM |
I've heard of Garbage Pail Kids, but Toy Box Tots is a new one on me.
Their names would have to be HOPE CHEST and WOODY GRAVES.
| by Anonymous | reply 146 | September 9, 2023 4:41 AM |
Nobody with two four year olds forgets to check on them until noon.
| by Anonymous | reply 147 | September 9, 2023 5:26 AM |
For those in the UAE, the American Baby catalogue is unique. This Fall: Eco-Friendly, negative carbon, carefree Floridian children.
| by Anonymous | reply 148 | September 9, 2023 5:34 AM |
The brother who found them did it. Obviously the parents are covering.
| by Anonymous | reply 149 | September 9, 2023 5:40 AM |
[quote] Sure dear [R135]. You’re even dumber than I accused you of being. Again…what the fuck are you doing here?? Go away you humorless little twat.
r137 Uh, acerbic gay humor is one thing, you creep.
But laughing at the death of two children, mocking their looks, and giggling like some dizzy queen over this whole tragedy? No, that's not normal behavior for healthy adult males, gay or straight.
And notice, most of us on this thread are not doing that.
It's just you, you goddamn anonymous ghoul. You fuck off and go somewhere else. I bet you get a real laugh when you hear about 4-year-olds being sexually molested as well. Do you?
Creep.
| by Anonymous | reply 150 | September 9, 2023 6:12 AM |
They were ugly! They deserved to die!
| by Anonymous | reply 152 | September 9, 2023 7:49 AM |
Florida: The Sociopath State
| by Anonymous | reply 153 | September 9, 2023 9:18 AM |
R150…uh, most of us ARE mocking the ugly kids. It’s not funny they died. It IS funny you’re so upset about it.
Seriously, DeFacto…YOU get the fuck out of here.
| by Anonymous | reply 154 | September 9, 2023 2:55 PM |
[quote]They were ugly.
I think the little girl was cute, the one on the right (Pat?), not so much.
| by Anonymous | reply 155 | September 9, 2023 2:58 PM |
Are the parents alcoholics? They sounds like it with their long ass sleeps
| by Anonymous | reply 156 | September 9, 2023 3:10 PM |
The parents are on opioids and Benzos is is my guess. Having that chest as a play box is insane.not checking in the kids last noon is suspect. The long winded explanation is because of guilt. The other kids whisked from the home say guilty. If my kids were dead I wouldn’t want the live ones taken away to stay with a relative.
| by Anonymous | reply 157 | September 9, 2023 3:20 PM |
R149. I’m stating the think you could be right…..how about a rousing game of hide and see? There were two older kids. Maybe one put the toddlers in the chest as a good hiding place and forgot about them…just because mom says they got up at night to “play” doesn’t mean her story is true.
She probably got home from work and was grateful it was quite and assumed everyone was asleep…I’m betting she checked on none of the kids
| by Anonymous | reply 158 | September 9, 2023 4:08 PM |
I don't think other people were involved. And the way the mom describes the lid falling shut makes me think the default was to leave the lid open. They wouldn't need an older person to put them in it, they just climbed in themselves.
Whether she checked on them at night is irrelevant. What's alarming is not checking on them until the afternoon of the following day. What the fuck goes on in that house in the morning? Parents sleeping til noon and 2 year-olds totally unsupervised for 12+ hours.
| by Anonymous | reply 159 | September 9, 2023 4:22 PM |
[quote] …uh, most of us ARE mocking the ugly kids. It’s not funny they died. It IS funny you’re so upset about it.
r154 Nope, there's only you and one other. JFC what sane person mocks dead babies? Walk outside your bedroom sometimes and talk to normal people.
You're cringe.
| by Anonymous | reply 160 | September 9, 2023 4:57 PM |
Keep pushing your nonsense R160. I encourage everyone to read this asshole’s previous posts regarding Ukraine and tell me he’s not DeFacto and/or a Russian plant. He screeches about Zelenskyy (happily predicts he’ll be killed) and the Biden “crime family” who are deeply involved with Ukraine in a vast conspiracy.
Who are you really fake platonic caveman??
| by Anonymous | reply 161 | September 9, 2023 6:43 PM |
Also R160 says Putin is great and winning. 🙄
| by Anonymous | reply 162 | September 9, 2023 6:44 PM |
r160 r161 Wow, I apparently hit a raw nerve.
No, the rest of us think you're pretty disgusting mocking the death of children. You took this whole thread in a very unnecessary nasty direction.
DeFacto? Whoever's that guy he must be wonderful but he's not me.
The Russian bots are coming!!! The Russian bots are coming!!! 🤣
| by Anonymous | reply 163 | September 9, 2023 7:02 PM |
Ahhhh…so you are DeFacto. Buh bye bitch.
| by Anonymous | reply 164 | September 9, 2023 7:30 PM |
Also, who the fuck is “the rest of us???” I don’t see a lot of folks parroting your concern.
Imagine…concern trolling on a gay forum that proudly props up pointless bitchery.
As the plane lady said, “that mother FUCKER is NOT real.
| by Anonymous | reply 165 | September 9, 2023 7:32 PM |
The one on the left is circus ugly
| by Anonymous | reply 166 | September 9, 2023 8:24 PM |
It's not just the Russian plants we need to acknowledge but unfortunately it is the QAnon, Extremist website users that infiltrate Gay websites so they can be disruptive and get nasty.
| by Anonymous | reply 167 | September 9, 2023 8:43 PM |
r164 r165r166 r167 I'm disruptive, nasty, voted for Trump, am a Russian bot and a member of QAnon because I'm repulsed that you mocked dead babies?
And I'm the problem?
You're sick.
I don't normally support bans of members. But you need to go.
Now make four more posts attacking me and saying how ugly were those poor little kids.
| by Anonymous | reply 168 | September 10, 2023 8:57 AM |
R168 gets her panties in a bunch over the death of two gutter snipes from bumfuck Florida and is AGAST!! that we here deign to mock their admittedly sorrowful deaths.
We the same people who have made the idea that the twin towers were insatiable bottoms a meme.
Give me a break Caveman. You’re a butthurt little pussy and frankly, to quote your cohort, fuck your feelings.
| by Anonymous | reply 169 | September 10, 2023 9:17 AM |
R167 here I never mocked dead babies. My comments were addressed to the doubt about the mother's story and the Lane Cedar chest in my family. Look elsewhere. I made a general comment about trolls on so many websites lately. Not personal, unless you took it personal. Ass.
| by Anonymous | reply 171 | September 10, 2023 11:20 PM |
I happen to strongly disagree with R169 and whoever else has posted about the babies who suffocated.I think it's sick, and goes beyond even the loose boundaries of this website.
| by Anonymous | reply 172 | September 10, 2023 11:22 PM |
[quote] gets her panties in a bunch over the death of two gutter snipes from bumfuck Florida and is AGAST!!
r169 Tony Woodard. I've seen you sign your posts before. I'll remember that name as the pervert who rates dead babies based on their appearance. It's a truly sick form of sexualizing children.
You are disturbed man.
| by Anonymous | reply 174 | September 11, 2023 1:21 AM |
If there's jokes and funny comments to be made about these two deceased angels, I say "The DL Mine Never Closes". We must ALWAYS be looking to be bitchy and funny. They're dead, they don't care. We're ALIVE and full of SNARK.
| by Anonymous | reply 175 | September 11, 2023 1:26 AM |
I can only imagine how monstrously ugly the parents are. Anyone have pictures?
| by Anonymous | reply 176 | September 11, 2023 4:40 AM |
r176 I think you really want "pics" of the little boy. If you know what I mean.
| by Anonymous | reply 177 | September 11, 2023 7:06 AM |
R174, I never once commented on the appearance of these children. Not once. You can’t point to a post from me talking about the appearance of the children.
I will say that it is absolutely fitting that you, Putin apologist, should pull out accusations of sexualizing children. That was a classic tactic of the KGB.
| by Anonymous | reply 178 | September 11, 2023 7:18 AM |
r178 Bullshit. Who rates a fucking baby, let alone a dead one, based on appearance? You make my skin crawl, "Tony Woodard".
| by Anonymous | reply 179 | September 11, 2023 7:47 AM |
R160 just a tip for the illiterate - “cringe” is a verb, not an adjective.
| by Anonymous | reply 180 | September 11, 2023 7:54 AM |
It’s an adjective now. Language changes.
| by Anonymous | reply 181 | September 11, 2023 8:05 AM |
Language changes, the illiterate never do, unfortunately.
| by Anonymous | reply 182 | September 11, 2023 8:26 AM |
The “language changes” excuse is the last refuge of a person who barely made it out of high school.
| by Anonymous | reply 183 | September 11, 2023 9:18 AM |
r182 In slang, it's an adjective. Like r181 said, language changes.
Oxford English Dictionary shows it as informal British.
[quote]adjective: cringe; comparative adjective: cringer; superlative adjective: cringest informal•British causing feelings of acute embarrassment or awkwardness. "learning about sex and sexuality can be seriously cringe"
You're illiterate.
| by Anonymous | reply 184 | September 11, 2023 9:18 AM |
Those twins were sure illiterate! They sure didn’t read no warning labels!! Amirite?
| by Anonymous | reply 185 | September 11, 2023 11:33 AM |
R179, not bullshit, facts. You can’t point to one single post made by me which says what you accuse me of saying. Ignore me and look.
It’s easy to tell even without using ignore-dar because I sign all my posts unlike yourself, you gaslighting coward.
| by Anonymous | reply 186 | September 11, 2023 1:12 PM |
There is nothing wrong with eye rolling the mothers story…this is DL and we tend to be snarky.
Many of us think the mother is full of shit and is covering up what really happened to the twins. So we tend to be tackless…....it doesn’t mean we don’t want to see justice for the kids if this was neglect on the parents part.
If some find DL too hard to handle, don’t come here ….l
| by Anonymous | reply 187 | September 11, 2023 2:48 PM |
Must every thread become a morality lecture?
| by Anonymous | reply 188 | September 11, 2023 3:26 PM |
DL has always had an irreverent and biting style of humor. If you don't like it you can leave. The offended reactions are just proving who belongs here and who doesn't.
| by Anonymous | reply 189 | September 11, 2023 3:42 PM |
[quote] DL has always had an irreverent and biting style of humor. If you don't like it you can leave. The offended reactions are just proving who belongs here and who doesn't.
r189 Bullshit. We don't belong here because you like stale jokes?
I'm not seeing biting irreverent humor from Woodard and the other two goons. I see some dumbass rating 4-year-olds on a 1 to 10 hotness scale. It's sick and pedoish. Who does that with babies?
| by Anonymous | reply 190 | September 11, 2023 7:46 PM |
R190, it isn’t stale jokes, it’s a culture.
The DL has a well-defined, long-standing culture. So well defined that Muriel, her name be praised, lets people know about it on the welcome page.
If you don’t like how we do things here I’d suggest you check out Reddit, where harpy scolds are part of the culture.
Again, the things you accused me of were totally untrue and if they weren’t you would have quotes me saying such things.
Troll.
| by Anonymous | reply 191 | September 11, 2023 9:10 PM |
R190 "Stale jokes?" You're not reacting to "stale jokes" and you know it. You're reacting with great offense to jokes that aren't pretending to respect social norms. You're reacting to basic sarcasm online like an offended old maid. You don't belong here because you don't get the culture of DL. You showed up at some point in the relatively recent past and decided to set up shop with an authenticated name, but you didn't read the room first.
You decided DL was a place where dead 4 year-olds were never mocked, and everyone listened to reason and responded to appeals to common decency with enthusiastic conformity. You were wrong, and wildly so. Anyone who has been here for more than 5 years could tell you that, but DL has been so aggressively inundated with the likes of you lately that it needs to be stated quite emphatically: DL IS NOT FOR YOU. GO AWAY.
You're like some busybody newcomer to the neighborhood, scolding everyone for the way things are and telling us all the way they ought to be, but you're just a clueless Karen who nobody can stand. FUCK OFF.
| by Anonymous | reply 192 | September 11, 2023 9:30 PM |
For some reason this topic is making me think of like how sometimes you might die and go to heaven and you won't recognize certain people you know because like they won't be ugly anymore.
| by Anonymous | reply 193 | September 12, 2023 3:00 AM |
Would it be less than kind than to state that one of the girls possessed to rather unconventional perhaps innate sweetness that went deeper than superficial notions of what is beautiful.
| by Anonymous | reply 194 | September 12, 2023 3:05 AM |
I've said it before: it's not the Datalounge I grew up with if we can't make fun of ugly children.
| by Anonymous | reply 195 | September 12, 2023 3:21 AM |
I’ll never forget when Jennifer Hudson’s nephew was murdered and datalounge was making fun of his weight. This has always been who we are.
| by Anonymous | reply 196 | September 12, 2023 3:25 AM |
That’s right, R195. Nobody batted an eye when we mercilessly mocked the ugly baby that grandpa dropped off of a cruise shit.
I will say that bitch had it coming. She knew what she did.
| by Anonymous | reply 197 | September 12, 2023 3:41 AM |
Cruise shit. 🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀
| by Anonymous | reply 198 | September 12, 2023 3:41 AM |
Awful story, OP. They weren’t very cute, though.
| by Anonymous | reply 199 | September 12, 2023 4:46 AM |
DOLL FACE ALERT Well, we’ve gotten a new toy chest for the other children, now that the old chest is, well, tainted
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 200 | September 12, 2023 7:26 PM |
I would never let my cat near a death trap chest
| by Anonymous | reply 201 | September 12, 2023 11:24 PM |
The thing on the left is nightmarish.
| by Anonymous | reply 202 | September 12, 2023 11:43 PM |
As a parent, I was very permissive and I have never encountered a Lane Chest. How sad. I would hope that people learn from this sad occurrence. Parents and caregivers, actually anyone around children, should at least try to look at a child's toys and surroundings from a child's point-of-view to check that most likely they'll be safe. Lastly, this situation doesn't pass the smell test for me.
| by Anonymous | reply 203 | September 13, 2023 2:11 AM |
I wonder how long it will take for toxicology to come back.
| by Anonymous | reply 204 | September 19, 2023 5:21 PM |
The other day I googled to see if there were any updates....nothing.
| by Anonymous | reply 205 | September 19, 2023 5:58 PM |
