an someone please tell me where we Gays stand politically now? There are actually two separate issues here with the trans: one is the right for trans people to have the same legal protections as everyone else, and the other is trans people getting up in everyone’s faces with trans kids, men in women’s sports, etc. The reason that I find the second part so odd is that this would never be accepted with gays. If a gay man told a child that the child was gay the parents would be enraged, so why is it okay to declare a 5 year old transgender? For me as a gay man, the same rule applies to us gays as it does to transgender people: we have the right to live our lives but it is absolutely inappropriate for us to tell a child what they are.

The nonbinary issue is just silly. This is nothing more than people wanting to feel special, and no one should give this a second thought. You can’t be 10 different genders at once, no matter what a narcissistic millennial with a history of drug problems might tell you.

R34 [quote]You win people over by reasoned logical arguments - not by 'because I said so and if you disagree, you're a right wing Republican asshole who needs to shut up'.

Exactly. This is not helping.

Can someone please tell me where we Gays stand politically now? R74 No, it’s not possible. Is it their right to mutilate themselves? Yes. Are they really becoming the opposite sex? Of course not.

Can someone please tell me where we Gays stand politically now? I’m a Democrat. Not necessarily happy about the state of things but what is the alternative? Vote Republican? No thanks. Third party? Why bother?

As Bill Maher said, “enjoy your rape baby. You can name it Jill Stein.”

Can someone please tell me where we Gays stand politically now? R149 Go out and get yourself some hormones.

Can someone please tell me where we Gays stand politically now? R158 It is interesting, but it’s also not hard to see why. As a group, they are the ones primarily responsible for turning people against us and undoing our progress.

Can someone please tell me where we Gays stand politically now? [quote]we've had openly public Trans citizens since I was a kid 50+ years ago.

R162 Really? Your family hung out with transsexuals in 1973?

Can someone please tell me where we Gays stand politically now? ^ As a little boy growing up in a small town pre-internet, he was aware of trans people before “trans” was even an identity. You could drive a truck through the holes in that story.

Can someone please tell me where we Gays stand politically now? As a Democrat, I’m embarrassed at how stupid many Democrats are. Many throw the word “fascist” around without knowing what it really means.

I see many vehemently showing support for nefarious issues they are too dumb to understand. I’ve seen gay men on social media ranting about how trans women (men) should play in women’s sports without understanding nor caring about the effect this has on women.

Then there are the young “men of color” who love to rant about white privilege and how terrible gay white men are, despite being completely unwilling to fuck anyone who isn’t white.

Then there’s my personal favorite: during the pandemic, when conservatives would gather, liberals would admonish their stupidity (and rightly so). But when BLM gathered, no one said a goddam word, not even the media.

Can someone please tell me where we Gays stand politically now? R177 What the hell is a nonbinary lesbian? Isn’t the definition of a lesbian literally a woman who likes women?