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Sam Smith in a nauseating performance

Writer Christopher Lucas

This is so hurting LGB people. We need to really speak up!

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by Anonymousreply 204May 13, 2023 11:07 PM

I saw the still at the link, and backed right out. I don't want to see that in action.

by Anonymousreply 2April 13, 2023 10:12 PM

Was she trying to induce seizures with all the flashing lights?

by Anonymousreply 3April 13, 2023 10:14 PM

Even if we could see his ribcage, he'd have no performative sex appeal. Some have it, and some don't, no matter what.

by Anonymousreply 4April 13, 2023 10:20 PM

I don’t know what the hell is going on with him, but if he weren’t fat and fem, he wouldn’t be getting as much backlash as he is. He needs to disappear and come back ripped with a hair transplant and Ozempic face.

by Anonymousreply 5April 13, 2023 10:21 PM

I was having dinner with friends. One of them asked what we thought of Sam Smith. I told them I couldn't stand him and he was annoying. My friend became annoyed and said he was going to Sam's concert.

I can't imagine sitting through what OP posted. I used to like Sam Smith but he is so thirsty and purposely off-putting that I don't want to listen to his music which is not very good. At her peak, with her shock antics, Madonna's music was good.

by Anonymousreply 6April 13, 2023 10:28 PM

Well, here comes breakfast.

🤢

by Anonymousreply 7April 13, 2023 10:33 PM

That ex really did a number on him, he's been unglued ever since.

by Anonymousreply 8April 13, 2023 10:34 PM

I’m nostalgic for “gay sensibility” …when we were cool & stylish.

by Anonymousreply 9April 13, 2023 10:44 PM

I kinda feel like it’s a case of thinking you look better in your head…

by Anonymousreply 10April 13, 2023 10:47 PM

R5 Well he was fit(ish) and masc(ish) for a while.

by Anonymousreply 11April 13, 2023 10:47 PM

He isn't hurting anyone.

What hurts people is right-wing Milo clones and their "LGB" nonsense

by Anonymousreply 12April 13, 2023 10:49 PM

Bumping-and-grinding may be OK for Jason.

But not for White Elephants.

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by Anonymousreply 13April 13, 2023 10:50 PM

He was auditioning for The Chippendales.

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by Anonymousreply 14April 13, 2023 10:52 PM

[quote] What hurts people is right-wing Milo clones and their "LGB" nonsense

R12 So I guess that identifies you as belonging to those who embrace the 'TQ Nonsense'.

by Anonymousreply 15April 13, 2023 10:52 PM

Oh no no no you don’t cover one of Madonna’s iconic tracks if you don’t have the sass and the strut.

by Anonymousreply 18April 13, 2023 11:09 PM

I don't want him to be hated on because he's gay. Or whatever.

I want him to be hated on because he sucks.

He's just not good.

by Anonymousreply 20April 13, 2023 11:25 PM

The filthiest person alive.

by Anonymousreply 22April 13, 2023 11:45 PM

Why can’t he just be normal?

by Anonymousreply 26April 14, 2023 12:18 AM

Just fugly. Sing your shit songs and go away

by Anonymousreply 27April 14, 2023 12:21 AM

How is he hurting anyone? you have a choice of whether you want to go to a show or not you're not forced to watch.

by Anonymousreply 28April 14, 2023 12:24 AM

What hurts The LGB community are gays like OP I think it's Gay's job to tell a line to make sure we don't make any straight people uncomfortable by being too gay. Seriously you should just go f*** yourself. You're the type of person to say this is why they hate us. The fact is they hate you too and they hate you only because you're gay. No matter how much you try to act like them and be a good little homosexual they're always going to hate you.

by Anonymousreply 29April 14, 2023 12:25 AM

And also f*** you for making me have to make this sort of comment on a Sam Smith thread. Personally I think he's in a desperate untalented attention w**** and I'm sick of seeing him in any context.

by Anonymousreply 30April 14, 2023 12:26 AM

Seriously OP go jump in a grease fire.

by Anonymousreply 31April 14, 2023 12:27 AM

Ham Smith playing up to her moniker

by Anonymousreply 32April 14, 2023 12:40 AM

Can his fat ass put it away already?

by Anonymousreply 33April 14, 2023 12:41 AM

Well, now we know what Shrek looks like naked.

by Anonymousreply 35April 14, 2023 12:44 AM

1. He still has a great voice. 2. He's going through a mental health issue in full public view. 3. He's probably on the right medications to perform consistently without being manic. 4. These are often the exact wrong medications for both self-reflection and weight management.

All that said, he needs better people. It's been old.

by Anonymousreply 36April 14, 2023 12:47 AM

The fatties have turned up.

by Anonymousreply 37April 14, 2023 12:55 AM

He has his fans so good for him (you can't say something is Bad, just that you find it bad. But I don't know why his sexuality as a gay person has overtaken and overshadowed his music. . . But fit, muscle Mary's as the gay stereotype needed some shaking up. . . If this is about body confidence then I'll go along with that...for now. . But you do worry if he's unwell or an out of control diva .. but if its authentic, then look away if u don't like it.

by Anonymousreply 38April 14, 2023 1:06 AM

Seriously, is he actually a human, or maybe some other type of mammal…or, a bird??!

by Anonymousreply 40April 14, 2023 1:22 AM

My friend got tickets to an upcoming show for $7, no joke. Soon they’ll be giving them away.

You’d think with all of that strenuous dancing Sam would lose a few lbs every time he’s on stage but no. He must have a full buffet waiting for him backstage after every show.

by Anonymousreply 41April 14, 2023 2:30 AM

I don't need to see that.

by Anonymousreply 43April 14, 2023 2:32 AM

OP you know that Twitter account is a fake/parody/mockery account

by Anonymousreply 44April 14, 2023 2:33 AM

R23 Sam Smith is nothing compared to Klaus Nomi

by Anonymousreply 45April 14, 2023 2:35 AM

R44 Oh. so Sam did not make a mockery of himself on stage, serving Lens Dunham realness?

by Anonymousreply 46April 14, 2023 2:35 AM

R46 I agree he's behaving like a disgusting freak - I just meant hopefully OP didn't think that Twitter poster was really meaning "you're a bigot if you don't like this." He 100% made a mockery of himself.

by Anonymousreply 47April 14, 2023 2:37 AM

She needs a fucking truckload of Ozempic

by Anonymousreply 48April 14, 2023 2:47 AM

OP, why do you want us you think Sam is gross? Him being gross is an opinion, but you watching proves your stupid.

by Anonymousreply 49April 14, 2023 2:54 AM

Who are you prissy little idiots.

We had Divine.

Now we have Sam Smith.

And I'm not even going to mention Kate Smith.

by Anonymousreply 50April 14, 2023 3:02 AM

r45 yet people said he was poor representation, a minstrel act, who eventually died alone of aids.

by Anonymousreply 52April 14, 2023 3:03 AM

R49 typed “your stupid”. Omfg, gtfo.

by Anonymousreply 53April 14, 2023 3:03 AM

R54/R55 You seem overly triggered

by Anonymousreply 56April 14, 2023 3:08 AM

Hey, OP, you deluded cunt troll. Smith isn't hurting "LGB" (the true troll's calling card) people.

He's hurting music and many eyes and ears.

by Anonymousreply 57April 14, 2023 3:09 AM

r56 Nope. I usually associate Smith with a manatee, Lens or anorexic Tess Holiday

but this wankfest is just pathetic.

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by Anonymousreply 58April 14, 2023 3:09 AM

I can't believe people would pay for that show. To think of the great performances that singers used to be able to put on and now to look at OP's video it's really shocking to look at what passes for talent these days.

At least YouTube preserves the glorious past.

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by Anonymousreply 59April 14, 2023 3:10 AM

R58 Where are you digging up these obscure videos

by Anonymousreply 60April 14, 2023 3:15 AM

He calms himself “they” because he’s as big as a bunch of people. He’s just so annoying and tiresome.

by Anonymousreply 61April 14, 2023 3:20 AM

Madonna is rolling over in her grave.

by Anonymousreply 62April 14, 2023 3:23 AM

Would you rather suck on those teets or Bea Arthur's?

by Anonymousreply 63April 14, 2023 3:26 AM

R63 Bea's without question, sadly

by Anonymousreply 64April 14, 2023 3:27 AM

How I wish you'd posted this before I inhaled 2,000 calories of post-cocktail-party binge.

by Anonymousreply 65April 14, 2023 3:29 AM

r60 Not all that obscure in some scenes.

Nuclear Family has been popular with many gay filmmakers.

Kids on TV - anyone associated with the Toronto gay scene impossible to avoid, and associated people, groupies, have gone on to other things... so, degrees of separation to wider gay cult is little.

Coil has decades of influence.

by Anonymousreply 66April 14, 2023 3:35 AM

Just revolting.

When he squatted down, I was concerned that he would take a shit.

by Anonymousreply 68April 14, 2023 3:41 AM

Divine was a legend. Sam Smith is not.

by Anonymousreply 69April 14, 2023 3:41 AM

Usually, body dysmorphia is a personal problem. Occasionally, it's societal.

by Anonymousreply 73April 14, 2023 3:55 AM

If Lizzo can OWN her body, why can't Sam????

Fat phobic WHORES!

by Anonymousreply 74April 14, 2023 3:59 AM

he is discovering new facets of himself. He is only getting attacked bcoz he is fat and gay. His ill fitting, cheap looking fashions choices does not help either.

by Anonymousreply 75April 14, 2023 4:10 AM

Sam is a queer they/them nonbinary, r75. Therefore, Sam cannot be gay because they has no gender.

by Anonymousreply 76April 14, 2023 4:14 AM

Wow, them is quite enthralling. I can't take my eyes off them. Like a trainwreck.

by Anonymousreply 77April 14, 2023 4:15 AM

[quote]What hurts The LGB community are gays like OP I think it's Gay's job to tell a line to make sure we don't make any straight people uncomfortable by being too gay

So you think "being disgusting" is "being gay".

Another one of "you people".

by Anonymousreply 78April 14, 2023 4:23 AM

Sam is non-binary. Their art is queer.

I say let them be. By respecting Sam’s space we affirm their identity. And with understanding people will begin to distinguish gay from queer.

by Anonymousreply 79April 14, 2023 4:44 AM

R79 Don't enable this shit.

by Anonymousreply 80April 14, 2023 4:59 AM

All the other noise aside - doesn't he have any good friends who can sit him down and have a solid and frank chat with him?

Nobody wants to see that.

If Steve Grand did it - then yes we'd want to see it. But not from Sam Smith.

by Anonymousreply 81April 14, 2023 5:06 AM

R81 He has zero gay friends.

by Anonymousreply 82April 14, 2023 5:22 AM

As many people have pointed out, Sam Smith is doing nothing pop stars weren't doing decades ago.

The problem with Sam is that that the other pop stars who did it could carry it off, artists with something to say, with personal style and good collaborators.

He's singing a 30 year old Madonna song which had an iconic video and a strong message.

Sam Isn't saying anything with his performance other than GIVE ME ATTENTION. And it's not a pleasant view.

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by Anonymousreply 84April 14, 2023 9:03 AM

[quote]And it's not a pleasant view.

That's a fucking understatement R84!

by Anonymousreply 86April 14, 2023 9:14 AM

The funniest thing about that clip, r84, is that it reveals how shit Sam's voice actually is live, even with all the autotune.

by Anonymousreply 88April 14, 2023 9:54 AM

Nauseating freak.

He makes the Baron Harkonnen look good.

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by Anonymousreply 89April 14, 2023 10:12 AM

Tune into any season of RPDR if you want to see the token morbidly obese mary's wearing almost nothing

by Anonymousreply 90April 14, 2023 10:17 AM

R83- i hope u rot in hell for posting that video here. He looks like the cupid, a weird sexified child

by Anonymousreply 91April 14, 2023 10:17 AM

[Quote] If you don’t enjoy this performance, you’re a bigot with no musical taste.

Well I guess I’m a bigot with no musical taste…and I’m ok with that considering the alternative.

by Anonymousreply 92April 14, 2023 10:19 AM

R23 R24 R25. One of these things is not like the others.

by Anonymousreply 93April 14, 2023 11:20 AM

[quote] Oh no no no you don’t cover one of Madonna’s iconic tracks

Um, honey, that song flopped.

by Anonymousreply 95April 14, 2023 11:37 AM

R89 I take personal offense at your comment.

by Anonymousreply 97April 14, 2023 1:47 PM

I love a freak show, but I don't understand why a person would pay to see a morbidly obese naked man trying to be sexy when he is so physically repulsive. Fat people might find this 'empowering' but it feels sad and exploitative, laughing at crazy people. He knows nobody finds him desirable but he's going to pretend.

by Anonymousreply 98April 14, 2023 2:01 PM

Freddie went out in a sparkling leotard or just a pair of boxers and looked fabulous. The energy, the charisma, the talent — it was all there.

Bowie explored androgyny, alien characters and what have you not — and he could pull it off.

Even Lady Gaga, who can’t hold a candle to those two giants, managed to get away with the most outrageous outfits. She knew what worked for her.

Sam Smith looks like a mess every single time. An unauthentic one, at that.

by Anonymousreply 99April 14, 2023 2:08 PM

I saw the green light in the thumbnail and thought it was David banner letting everyone know they wouldn’t like him when he was angry. I was wrong, but it would be hilarious to see the Incredible Hulk in the sparkly speedo. Sam ran out of string so he had an off day.

by Anonymousreply 100April 14, 2023 2:30 PM

[quote] When he squatted down, I was concerned that he would take a shit.

That was my act!

by Anonymousreply 101April 14, 2023 2:57 PM

Jesus, this was terrible on every level. Any Human Nature is Madonna's whiniest track.

by Anonymousreply 102April 14, 2023 3:59 PM

[Quote]Sam Smith looks like a mess every single time. An unauthentic one, at that.

Unathletic, as well.

by Anonymousreply 103April 14, 2023 4:21 PM

[quote] But fit, muscle Mary's as the gay stereotype needed some shaking up. . . If this is about body confidence then I'll go along with that...for now. .

There is a lot of middle ground between muscle Mary and the Pillsbury dough boy.

I love how squeezing one's rolls into teeny tiny garments is now synonymous with "body confidence."

Is it a bad thing now to do the barest minimum of healthy eating and exercise, or to wear flattering clothes instead of courting a yeast infection?

by Anonymousreply 104April 14, 2023 4:49 PM

How can I unsee that revolting and very horrific display of a pig in the mud?

by Anonymousreply 105April 14, 2023 5:23 PM

I'd be grossed out by this in a bedroom. Why put it on stage? This is happening because fat, unattractive people don't want to think of themselves as fat and unattractive.

by Anonymousreply 106April 14, 2023 5:41 PM

It's body positivity - I'm positive I don't want to ever see that body again.

by Anonymousreply 107April 14, 2023 5:50 PM

[quote]This is so hurting LGB people.

Get down off the cross, OP. "LGB people" need the wood.

by Anonymousreply 108April 14, 2023 5:58 PM

R108 Why should we be lumped in with this bullshit 'satanic' exhibitionist freakery? He's revolting. You fuck him.

by Anonymousreply 109April 14, 2023 6:35 PM

Imagine having all that cash, and all that adulation, and not having one person close enough to you to be able to tell you the truth when you are actually revolting.

by Anonymousreply 111April 14, 2023 6:41 PM

Does anyone know if that cordless mic gives the autotune effect or is it coming through the sound boards?

by Anonymousreply 112April 14, 2023 6:47 PM

Can't he afford liposuction?

by Anonymousreply 113April 14, 2023 6:57 PM

But it's a show you have to choose to go and see. So if you don't like him, why do you care?

by Anonymousreply 114April 14, 2023 7:15 PM

He's such a grotesque fatass.

Why are the male celebrities we would love to see half naked and shaking their asses never the ones who actually do it?

Chris Evans, I'm talking to you.

by Anonymousreply 116April 14, 2023 7:55 PM

[quote] This is happening because fat, unattractive people don't want to think of themselves as fat and unattractive.

Should they have to? Just to make you feel better?

Not every performer should have to be ‘sexy’ in order to put on a show. Show outfits generally reveal more skin….should that skin absolutely have to be that of a skinny and athletic person? 99% of this type of performer have what would be considered ‘sexy’ bodies, what’s the big problem with a tiny minority of them not being that way?

Seems intellectually weak to look at this video and get upset by it specifically because you don’t find the performer sexually attractive, rather than just either liking it or not liking it and moving on with your life. Sam wearing fishnets and covering a Madonna track isn’t going to contribute to gay marriage being done away with, and if you think that those two things are connected go see a doctor idk.

by Anonymousreply 117April 14, 2023 7:56 PM

And we thank you gentlemen for keeping your display private. Nauseating as they are.

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by Anonymousreply 118April 14, 2023 7:56 PM

Why the pasties though 😳

by Anonymousreply 119April 14, 2023 7:58 PM

[quote] Why are the male celebrities we would love to see half naked and shaking their asses never the ones who actually do it? Chris Evans, I'm talking to you.

He's not a singer.

by Anonymousreply 120April 14, 2023 8:03 PM

[quote] Seems intellectually weak to look at this video and get upset by it specifically because you don’t find the performer sexually attractive, rather than just either liking it or not liking it and moving on with your life.

I'm not the person you're talking to, but what bullshit.

You've complained about other celebrities doing things on datalounge, but because you like Sam Smith, complaining about a celebrity is "intellectually weak"? What a hypocrite you are.

by Anonymousreply 121April 14, 2023 8:05 PM

[quote]Not every performer should have to be ‘sexy’ in order to put on a show. Show outfits generally reveal more skin….should that skin absolutely have to be that of a skinny and athletic person?

No, they don't have to be sexy, but they also don't have to take off their clothes. I could list 100 successful performers who never revealed that much skin. Maybe he has some kind of humiliation kink because I just can't understand it otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 122April 14, 2023 8:21 PM

R121 I'm not the person you're replying to, but I get where they're coming from. I think the comments are fair game if it's a red carpet thing or a YouTube video, because it's a public thing. But considering this was in an arena that people had to choose to pay to enter, the criticism seems less valid to me.

If people want to parade around in front of a paying audience that arguably know what they're going to get (Smith hasn't only just started doing this), then I see no issue really.

by Anonymousreply 123April 14, 2023 8:24 PM

r120 made me remember that this is Aspielounge. I forget sometimes.

by Anonymousreply 124April 14, 2023 8:44 PM

Imagine the flashing lights bringing about a deadly seizure, and the last thing you glimpse is Sam Smith's dingle berries.

by Anonymousreply 125April 14, 2023 9:18 PM

[quote] You've complained about other celebrities doing things on datalounge, but because you like Sam Smith, complaining about a celebrity is "intellectually weak"? What a hypocrite you are.

I complain about things that are meaningful or worthwhile R121, this ain’t that baby. Also I’m not a fan of Sam’s, neither like nor dislike. FWIW I don’t think Sam is a good enough dancer to do this kinda thing but I don’t let it get to me or delude myself into thinking it’s somehow affecting my rights.

I’d suggest u do the same x.

by Anonymousreply 126April 14, 2023 9:38 PM

Also I’d add R121 there’s a significant gap between complaining about something / someone and allowing yourself to get upset by something / someone. People on this thread are UPSET.

by Anonymousreply 127April 14, 2023 9:39 PM

I like him as a singer but I hope he ends this exhibitionist part of his career soon. He's better at ballads than dance music imho.

by Anonymousreply 128April 14, 2023 9:57 PM

R127 Disgusted. Not upset.

by Anonymousreply 129April 14, 2023 10:02 PM

I thought he had a good voice but he sounds like shit.

by Anonymousreply 130April 14, 2023 10:23 PM

I guess it is perfectly normal on Datalounge to make fun of someone because they are fat. Anything else and you are crucified. If you don't like his body type, then do not consume his media.

You fat shaming pieces of shit!

by Anonymousreply 131April 14, 2023 10:24 PM

I feel so old. Prince was strutting around like that in the 80s. Andy Bell from Erasure was dressing like that in the 80s.

Both were showmen though.

Elton John was also a showman but never tried to be sexy.

by Anonymousreply 132April 14, 2023 10:24 PM

[quote]This is so hurting LGB people. We need to really speak up!

HOW and WHY?

So because ONE pop singer wore sparkly underwear and thigh-high boots, ALL gay & bi people are being hurt?

This is literally ONE person. Some of y'all need to figure out the difference between things that are just bad (in your opinion or someone else's) and something that is actually harmful. There are politicians and leaders all over this country trying (and succeeding in some cases) to actively harm us.

NO GAY, BISEXUAL, LESBIAN OR TRANSGENDER PEOPLE WERE HURT IN THE MAKING OF THIS FRIVOLOUS, SILLY TWITTER CLIP.

by Anonymousreply 134April 14, 2023 10:52 PM

R134 Jesus, you are really fat.

by Anonymousreply 135April 14, 2023 10:57 PM

Rage little TERFs and TERFlets, rage!

by Anonymousreply 136April 14, 2023 11:01 PM

YASSSSS Kweens On The Right Side Of History™ have to like Sam Smith and [insert preferred pronoun here] antics out of obligation.

by Anonymousreply 137April 14, 2023 11:04 PM

I’m a fattie fan and I’m not feeling whatever Sam Smith is doing. Just weird and unappealing. He doesn’t have the panache of Lizzo.

by Anonymousreply 138April 14, 2023 11:04 PM

Remember when Cher's If I Could Turn Back Time video had to be CENSORED because used a car seat belt to cover her front bottom and boobies?

Just be grateful Sam Smith didn't use a seatbelt to cover his front bottom and boobies.

by Anonymousreply 139April 14, 2023 11:08 PM

[quote]Just be grateful Sam Smith didn't use a seatbelt to cover his front bottom and boobies.

…yet.

by Anonymousreply 140April 14, 2023 11:29 PM

No fats no femmes no freaks

by Anonymousreply 141April 14, 2023 11:32 PM

R141 see, that's how all this could have been an interesting take and comment on society. If he actually created a high-concept video or live with scenarios that challenge and subvert the stigma that femme fat freaks do face. Instead, he's just ordering people to look upon his rolls with adulation and thinks that's enough of a comment. You have to convince an audience, not hold them hostage.

by Anonymousreply 142April 14, 2023 11:34 PM

"Hold them hostage" is very aptly put in regards to OP's video of Sam.

by Anonymousreply 143April 14, 2023 11:36 PM

Sam Smith? Bitch looks more like KATE Smith!

by Anonymousreply 144April 14, 2023 11:39 PM

He's trying to dance like a Pussycat Doll, only BTEC.

Does he want to do drag? Or transition? Because all this feels quite hmmmm...misogynistic? Female mainstream popstars who want to make it big and get the payola deals/airplay are often forced to dress or dance like this for a period of time, whether they want to or not and whether they agree with it and feel comfortable or not. It's like a requisite or a trial by fire.

The fact that someone like Sam can just do it by choice and with no pressure for a minute, just to get some sweet sweet social media attention or gratify some kink or enact delusional revenge-dress fantasy on his ex, then go back to wearing a suit and doing crooner tunes in a few months or years like it never happened if he wants doesn't sit right with me (and yeah, I know, k.d. Lang did/does the latter, but we're not talking about middlebrow butch lesbian culture, here).

Sam is getting caned by us and a few other small pockets of the Internet, but he'll moreso get praise for being so Stunning and Brave and LGBTQA!+, and when it all dies down and it's no longer de rigueur, everyone will just forget it and let him move on, never bringing it up again to slutshame him or perv over (not sure why anyone would perv, but every pot, eh).

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by Anonymousreply 145April 14, 2023 11:46 PM

[quote] LGB

God made cardiac diseases and opioid addiction to fix problems like you.

by Anonymousreply 146April 14, 2023 11:52 PM

[quote] I guess it is perfectly normal on Datalounge to make fun of someone because they are fat.

Why, yes. Yes, it is.

by Anonymousreply 147April 15, 2023 12:49 AM

Speak up about what, OP? A pop star acting trashy just like every other pop star?

"LGB" is as idiotic as any other variation of that acronym. Maybe get some real problems instead of spamming from garbage Twitter accounts.

by Anonymousreply 148April 15, 2023 1:16 AM

R99, Bowie always struck me as being an ass; his “androgyny” was unoriginal and merely a rip-off of gay culture. His collapse occurred in the 1980s, which revealed his lack of original inventiveness and just how utterly pretentious and boring he really was. Also him being a pedophile should be enough to put anyone off.

As messy as Sam Smith is, he is still one of us, and I’ll take him over a dead kiddy fiddler any day of the week.

by Anonymousreply 149April 15, 2023 1:18 AM

R29, OP reminds me of that hog homophobe and tchaser Graham Linehan, who’s been having a meltdown over Sam Smith for quite some time now. I’m sure it is him.

by Anonymousreply 150April 15, 2023 1:20 AM

Yas! Werk, non-binary monarch!

by Anonymousreply 151April 15, 2023 1:21 AM

R149 Bowie ripped off the original seed Jobriath the same way Gaga ripped off poor dead genius Peaches

by Anonymousreply 152April 15, 2023 1:24 AM

Just when the world was slowly coming to terms with LGB, frieks like Smith come along and TQDQ, and people just can't or won't deal with this.

Can you blame them?

by Anonymousreply 153April 15, 2023 8:08 AM

Is he still singing with that tranny?

by Anonymousreply 154April 15, 2023 8:10 AM

R149 Fuck off with spewing your angry bullshit. It’s the weekend, school is over, shouldn’t you be outside playing?

by Anonymousreply 155April 15, 2023 8:35 AM

R152 Peaches Christ? Not dead.

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by Anonymousreply 156April 15, 2023 11:13 AM

R54 R55 R58 - I assume you're the same person. I love you and your taste in music.

by Anonymousreply 157April 15, 2023 2:08 PM

r75 or more, he's only act out this way because he's getting negative attention. . .

people respond more to negativity than positivity

for many performers, the negative responses are what fuels them to push the envelope. . . because it generates the most attention.

Shock value - outrage garners more media headlines than charitable deeds.

As to lgbt aspects, yes, many are more additionally offended because he's affiliated with the community.

akin to recent politics where some justify str8 men in drag as family friendly but feel gay men are not.

or older debates in censorship, where the showing of a presumed str8 male non-sexual nudity in entertainment media wasn't hit with as many infractions as the exposure of a gay character's non-sexual nudity in entertainment media. .. and some situations in real life as well. . .

by Anonymousreply 158April 15, 2023 2:23 PM

The resemblance is actually uncanny R89.

by Anonymousreply 159April 15, 2023 2:25 PM

Some of the negative reaction is definitely because he's gay. Homophobia never really went anywhere, it's just more palatable to the masses when it's wrapped in gender critical paper.

by Anonymousreply 160April 15, 2023 2:26 PM

Only a small amount R160 and it's from the usual quarters who say the same thing about any gays.

99% of the negative reaction is because he looks [bold]absolutely terrible[/bold] and he's acting like a whore when he doesn't have the goods to back it up.

by Anonymousreply 161April 15, 2023 2:39 PM

Sam is non-binary and has no gender, r160. Therefore, they cannot be gay because they is genderless. Perhaps the real homophobe is Sam?

Shame on you for misgendering them, by the way. You sound like a gender critical terf. Sam is a they/them.

by Anonymousreply 162April 15, 2023 2:40 PM

Sam has decided to run away from their homosexuality by becoming a non-binary they/them. So why we (as in gay men who have not done the same) are expected to be the first to defend them is anyone's guess.

by Anonymousreply 163April 15, 2023 2:43 PM

R117 This is happening because fat, unattractive people don't want to think of themselves as fat and unattractive.

Should they have to? Just to make you feel better?

No. Fat ugly people can do whatever they please. This is Sam's shtick. Some people find it thrillingly transgressive to watch this pasty obese man jiggle. It helps them rationalize their decisions to treat their bodies like garbage dumps. It's on them. I'm just observing.

by Anonymousreply 164April 15, 2023 5:21 PM

R162 I get you're joking, but those who dislike him all see him as male anyway, hence the homophobia.

by Anonymousreply 167April 15, 2023 7:12 PM

I'm serious, r167. Sam suffers from deeply internalised homophobia, hence his urge to deny that he's a man and his obviously fucked up relationship with his body, which leads to these cringe hypersexualised but very unsexy performances. He needs to deal with his own homophobia. Some stupid woman shouting at him in the street is trivial. The damaging homophobia is his own and that of the ideology he is espousing.

by Anonymousreply 168April 15, 2023 9:27 PM

R168 That doesn't make sense to me, given he came out years ago and got almost universal support for it.

Internalised homophobia leads to outward hatred of gay people. I knew one guy with the worst case of it. Came out with the worst slurs ever, even beat up a gay dude. He came out eventually when he finally accepted himself.

He's just a bit of an attention seeker. He's not doing anything different to Madonna or Lady Gaga. Both did over the top performances/music videos. Pretty sure neither of them had deeply internalised heterophobia. It's not as deep as you make it out to be.

by Anonymousreply 169April 15, 2023 9:32 PM

I think he looks silly but it gets my attention and obviously somebody wants to see it or hee be over.

by Anonymousreply 170April 15, 2023 10:41 PM

It’s not erotic like he intended (at least to me) but he’s a better dancer than I thought he’d be

by Anonymousreply 171April 15, 2023 10:43 PM

r168 so, your bias is towards his ideology, which you're obsessed with like the dozens of other critics that view him in the same vein as boy george and other pudgy gay attention whores. . . so, despite your obsession with stopping his agenda and bending reality around you to make it all about that agenda, it's still just about his faggotry.

also, if you do want to make it about his ideology, then I suggest you look at the uk trolls obsessed with it, given the decades they've said the ideology was born from american gay men that come out through prostitution, worship hitler, fantasize about small children, and imagine themselves as women every time they're penetrated. this powerful lobby that sought to destroy feminism through the sexual liberation and sex positive movement..

by Anonymousreply 172April 15, 2023 11:17 PM

I didn't see anything resembling dancing in that video.

by Anonymousreply 173April 16, 2023 12:41 AM

Because, dickless homophobes like R153 are using him to scapegoat gay rights, just like they did with previous gay artists and activists that weren’t politically correct.

R163, You don’t have to defend Sam Smith, but realize that the tactics that are being used against him are also intended to harm all gay men.

by Anonymousreply 174April 16, 2023 1:55 AM

I don't know why you're continuing to misgender Sam, who no longer uses he/him/his pronouns.

by Anonymousreply 175April 16, 2023 1:59 AM

R174, we need to drop the T q NB etc for our very survival. That is not hyperbole , it’s that dire !!

by Anonymousreply 176April 16, 2023 2:03 AM

R160, If Sam Smith came out now and denounced everything trans/nonbinary, see how quickly the “gender critics” would come running to say how they always loved his singing and what a great person he really is.

That’s how fickle they are. They’re on the side of the Christian lunatics that were having a meltdown over his Grammy performance, calling it “satanic” while crying religious persecution.

by Anonymousreply 177April 16, 2023 2:10 AM

R174 It is not about political correctness, Sam is very PC and PC approved. It is because he is a fat disgusting manatee with zero dance or stage skills so he is an utter embarrassment.

by Anonymousreply 178April 16, 2023 2:45 AM

R175 because he‘s a bloke, bitch

by Anonymousreply 179April 16, 2023 9:41 AM

R177 Indeed. The gender critics will base their opinion of a person based on what they say about trans people. I see legions of them championing the likes of Matt Walsh these days. They ignore all the right wing shit he normally says, but think he's great because he's against trans people.

They're like a cult on Twitter with their suffragette colours and dinosaur icons in their Twitter handles. They literally repeat the same few sentences over and over to anyone who expresses disagreement.

Don't get me wrong, there's a cult like behaviour to the more ardent trans rights activists, too. Neither of them can see how slavish devotion to one cause warps the mind into becoming weirdly obsessive. It's not healthy.

by Anonymousreply 180April 16, 2023 12:40 PM

Sam is a perfect example of flopping hard after an smash hit.

The problem Sam has is they was already established as a melodic crooner, they have a lot of adult fans, basically Sam was the male (or non binary) Adele.

Then had a good bunch of dance hits but nothing outrageous.

Of course they have all the right to do what's doing, other artist did similar things first, but i don't think it'll work in the long run. And it's a pitty because they have a great and distinctive voice. Anway they seems pretty happy, so who am i to question their decisions

by Anonymousreply 181April 16, 2023 12:47 PM

Transwomen are men, r180. There's nothing "right wing" about that immutable fact.

Sam Smith's performances are cringe and a reflection of his discomfort with being a gay man and with his body, as is his claim to be nonbinary. His attempts to dress in an arty and edgy way are part of that. Except he's not artistically astute enough to be able to pull those looks off. With his "sexy" performances, it's as though he's trying to be casual and ironic about not having a stereotypically attractive body, but the effect is the opposite: with these performances he seems more fixated with his body and his hatred of it.

It's telling that Sam's self-declared supporters are ignoring his nonbinary identity and his request for they/them pronouns. When he publicly insists on something as dumb as the non-word "fisherthem" (surely it's fisherperson?), it's patently clear that there is something up with him and he is not in a good head space.

by Anonymousreply 182April 16, 2023 1:01 PM

[quote]The gender critics will base their opinion of a person based on what they say about trans people. I see legions of them championing the likes of Matt Walsh these days. They ignore all the right wing shit he normally says, but think he's great because he's against trans people.

I disagree. I've seen plenty of gender realists criticise people for sharing Matt Walsh videos, arguing that feminism doesn't include appearing on Fox News and Tucker Carlson. The recent videos of Walsh humiliating trans activists at a Q&S session weren't shared by a lot of accounts despite them making their argument.

[quote]They're like a cult on Twitter with their suffragette colours and dinosaur icons in their Twitter handles. They literally repeat the same few sentences over and over to anyone who expresses disagreement. Don't get me wrong, there's a cult like behaviour to the more ardent trans rights activists, too. Neither of them can see how slavish devotion to one cause warps the mind into becoming weirdly obsessive. It's not healthy.

I've seen plenty of gender criticals defend Sam Smith on the grounds that what he is doing is not original or outrageous or especially unique. There is a healthy debate amongst GC people, something I don't see with TRAs.

by Anonymousreply 183April 16, 2023 1:03 PM

If you want a homosexual to perform in devil horns without embarrassing himself, leave it to the Welsh.

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by Anonymousreply 184April 16, 2023 1:10 PM

Actually his “I’m a gyrating fatty” is getting him tons of publicity- so yes he’s going Showbiz exactly right

by Anonymousreply 185April 16, 2023 1:15 PM

If his music was more interesting he wouldn't have to do this.

by Anonymousreply 187April 16, 2023 1:39 PM

He has a string of number 1 hits— so his music interests alot of people

by Anonymousreply 188April 16, 2023 1:49 PM

Just looked at his Wiki page. The Unholy song with the Germany tranny was a huge hit all around the world, but the Calvin Harries produced track with the outrageous piss drinking nipple tassle chandelier swinging video wasn't a hit anywhere despite the publicity.

He covered Des'ree's Kissing You for his latest album. How DARE he.

by Anonymousreply 189April 16, 2023 1:57 PM

R188 He had one Tiktok hit with Unholy. The album flopped.

by Anonymousreply 190April 16, 2023 3:48 PM

[quote]Divine was a legend. Sam Smith is not.

Divine had something these danger-haired enby zillennials never will: a sense of humor.

by Anonymousreply 191April 16, 2023 4:34 PM

R182 Where did I say your view was "right wing"? Let's read what I said again:

"I see legions of them championing the likes of Matt Walsh these days. They ignore all the right wing shit he normally says, but think he's great because he's against trans people."

I thought it was obvious I meant the "right wing shit" he says is pretty much everything BUT his gender critical opinions.

I've already said why I don't buy that he's ashamed of his homosexuality in R169. If you want to read that post and then respond to points I made I'm more than willing to keep discussing. If not, it's been lovely speaking to you.

by Anonymousreply 192April 16, 2023 5:05 PM

R183, Gender Criticism isn’t what it was several years ago when concerns were legit and the majority of GCs were actual lesbians and gay men; now it’s overrun by grifters and predators like Matt Walsh, Kellie Jay Keen-Minshull who don’t actually care about women's rights or gay rights.

by Anonymousreply 193April 16, 2023 11:00 PM

Nothing said at R149, was remotely angry. Take your mental retardation elsewhere, R155.

by Anonymousreply 194April 16, 2023 11:01 PM

Sam Smith seems creepy. I just read his lyrics to UNHOLY and I was really weirded out.

by Anonymousreply 197April 17, 2023 2:45 PM

R59 i think Smith has a better face than freddie coz freddie had donkey teeth and Sam's New music is better than the minstrel poo from queen.

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by Anonymousreply 198May 12, 2023 10:31 AM

R120 I ain't so sure about that hunty...

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by Anonymousreply 199May 12, 2023 10:42 AM

R193, one doesn't have to be "gender critical" to understand that there are only two sexes. Or that "non-binary" is ridiculous, made-up nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 200May 12, 2023 8:34 PM

R149, what does "one of us" mean? If you mean a gay man, Sam isn't a gay man because they is not a man. And you're misgendering them. Misgendering is hate. In Sam's mind, you are a bad person who is attacking them and all queer people.

by Anonymousreply 201May 12, 2023 8:36 PM

It’s douches like R79 that enable these desperate “mommy pay attention to meeeeee!” Cunts! Sam Smith is male. HE is not THEY although the size of several he’s, he is still a he. Now if HE felt HE a was the wrong gender then he would TRANSITION to the OTHER GENDER *SHE* but we already have enough obese she’s so please stay the fat fugly annoying he you are. This is why the Christian right think all Drag Queens are “groomers” and “sexually confused”. The THEYS and Non Binary jerkoffs are ruining the beauty of Drag!

by Anonymousreply 204May 13, 2023 11:07 PM