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Maya Angelou was a bitch

Writer Robert Spencer

She had serious problems with that step child of hers and caused a lot of friends to dump her. So, why not be honest about her legacy.

by Anonymousreply 80July 5, 2019 4:14 AM

Her legacy was her writing, not gossip concerning her private and personal relationships. You sound very shallow OP.

by Anonymousreply 1June 9, 2014 11:15 PM

I seriously thought Oprah would be a no-show. I believe her and Maya were not speaking after O dissed her elders on BBC.

O was crying w/o tears at the ceremony. She should stick to acting- she's good.

by Anonymousreply 2June 11, 2014 9:37 PM

Sure R3, that is why she married white men.

by Anonymousreply 4June 11, 2014 9:59 PM

OP is an overwrought mess that is saddled with a lazy mind.

by Anonymousreply 5June 11, 2014 10:01 PM

She loved white cock? Oh my!

by Anonymousreply 6June 11, 2014 10:05 PM

I thought Maya was a mid-life "I suddenly realized it" lesbian.

by Anonymousreply 7June 11, 2014 10:09 PM

are you a retard op or are you a savant?

by Anonymousreply 8June 11, 2014 10:19 PM

OP, when someone dies, the people who loved them only remember their good qualities. It's not about being phony and sweeping flaws under the rug...it's about being merciful.

Have mercy, OP.

Read her work and maybe you'll understand that when you attack others, you also attack yourself. Your hatred for her conceals your self-hatred, and that is why you're miserable. It has nothing to do with Dr. Maya Angelou...but her writing, ironically, can help you let it go, move on and be happy.

That's how she lived her life.

by Anonymousreply 9June 11, 2014 10:25 PM

R10, do you not know where you are? This is the Datalounge, not your prayer group.

Maya was a drunk and a bitch.

by Anonymousreply 10June 11, 2014 10:33 PM

R10, time does that as well. I was a major problem child so a few years ago I decided to apologize to my parents. My mother said that over time she forgot the bad times and only remembered the good. I thought she told that to make me feel better. However, recently my siblings and I talked some of our youthful mistakes and my mother really did not recall the incidents.

by Anonymousreply 12June 11, 2014 10:36 PM

For R10/12

"Onward Christian Soldiers..."

by Anonymousreply 13June 11, 2014 10:41 PM

R13, what's the difference between not remembering the bad times, and really not recalling them? She told you she forgot them and you seem to dislike that she really did forget them.

by Anonymousreply 14June 11, 2014 10:42 PM

R15 is trolling Maya Angelou fans. Why does that make me giggle?

by Anonymousreply 15June 11, 2014 10:43 PM

What'd she say (Oprah), r2? Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 16June 11, 2014 10:47 PM

You guys really pick the strangest people to hate. I get it. Oprah loved Angelou and you all hate Oprah, so Angelou is guilty by association. Some of you really need to find a hobby.

by Anonymousreply 18June 11, 2014 10:57 PM

R12, isn't there some slash fiction you should be reading, cunt?

by Anonymousreply 19June 11, 2014 11:03 PM

Says R21 on a GOSSIP site.

Oooohh, you are so high-minded on the gossip site Girl!

by Anonymousreply 20June 11, 2014 11:03 PM

hey OP the only time you probably get laid is when you rape someone

by Anonymousreply 21June 11, 2014 11:10 PM

R21, and R10/12/16/17, has it ever occurred to you that some of us have first hand experience with Maya Angelou?

The answer is yes, and yes, she was a diva bitch.

by Anonymousreply 22June 11, 2014 11:10 PM

Because that was her private legacy. Her pubic legacy is her writing and speaking, duh.

by Anonymousreply 23June 11, 2014 11:11 PM

Anyone who went to her paid talks knows she was a major racist.

by Anonymousreply 24June 11, 2014 11:12 PM

She was a B-list Toni Morrison, at best.

by Anonymousreply 25June 11, 2014 11:13 PM

I went to a lecture she gave to the (paying) public and don't recall any racist remarks.

by Anonymousreply 26June 11, 2014 11:15 PM

#18, at the 3:00 mark, she tells the interviewer that people from her own community in The South, marinated in racism, "just have to die". Some interpreted that to mean the oppressed ones, too.

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by Anonymousreply 27June 11, 2014 11:21 PM

In one of the interviews that Oprah did with Angelou; Oprah mentioned Angelou once having asked a party guest to leave her home. The guest, who was across the room from Angelou but on the same side of the room as Oprah, had made a homophobic remark. From across the room, Angelou heard the remark and promptly asked the that party guest to leave her home. Angelou explained to Oprah that she did not allow that type of "poison" in her home.

Angelou also voiced her support of gays in the poem that she wrote for Clinton's inauguration.

by Anonymousreply 28June 12, 2014 12:07 AM

R16, I did not dislike her for it; I just did not believe her. Later I realized she was probably telling the truth. My point is that over time some people forget the bad stuff.

by Anonymousreply 29June 12, 2014 1:32 AM

R35, it will not matter here. She was three of the things DL hates the most: fat, black and a woman.

by Anonymousreply 30June 12, 2014 1:35 AM

[quote] I believe her and Maya were not speaking

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 31June 12, 2014 1:38 AM

Maya also laid the foulest, greasiest pipe in the territory. You did NOT want to follow her into the john, and I mean for a full 48 hours afterwards.

Apparently smugness is as indigestible for the bearer as it is for the observer.

by Anonymousreply 32June 12, 2014 1:48 AM

She may have been a lovely woman, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking she was a major poet.

by Anonymousreply 33June 12, 2014 1:56 AM

Ugh, stop with the visuals! I have to go to sleep later...

I've found that so-called Great People often have difficult lives... a forgotten child, a brutal childhood, gang rape.

I was not a big Angelou fan. "And Still I Rise" was classic though. Oddly, I prefer the parody to the poet, a troubling conflict. She was a little over the top, in a loveable way.

by Anonymousreply 34June 12, 2014 1:59 AM

R40. Hear, hear, Ms. Brooks! You're still the greatest!

by Anonymousreply 35June 12, 2014 2:53 AM

[quote] Maya also laid the foulest, greasiest pipe in the territory. You did NOT want to follow her into the john, and I mean for a full 48 hours afterwards.

That's also partly why they banned smoking in buildings. One spark from a match at the wrong place at the wrong time, and it's Alabama in 1963 all over again.

by Anonymousreply 37January 3, 2018 12:25 PM

Stop being mean to her. She kicked it in 'Touched by an Angel'.

by Anonymousreply 38January 3, 2018 12:44 PM

I met her after a speaking engagement at El Camino College in Southern California. Gracious, sweet, and had the softest hands I have ever touched.

by Anonymousreply 39January 3, 2018 1:34 PM

This thread was started by a Racist, white troll to provoke. Clearly a Breitbart POS. Angelous remains a cultural icon, was America’s Poet Laureate and contributed remarkable historical & autobiographical works that chronicled African Diaspora in America. Her biography was fascinating, spanned the globe (OP just lives in a trailer in BFE) and was on of the 1st women to speak truth about sexual assaults on Children. Dr. Angelou’s honesty and insight remains a Beacon of Compassion and Understanding in the Literary History in America - right up there with James Baldwin & Richard Wright. No creepy white hater anonymously, launching cowardly attacks on her character is worth the piss in their bladder by comparison.

And yes, she was correct to ask a racist illbehaved guest to leave her beautiful home.

by Anonymousreply 40January 3, 2018 1:42 PM

I know she is beloved. I’ve not read her prose, but her poetry...let’s hope she’s a good prose writer. Only Nikki Giovanni is worse.

by Anonymousreply 41January 3, 2018 1:45 PM

Save it, R40. OP hates white women just as much.

by Anonymousreply 42January 3, 2018 1:58 PM

She hid her sexuality once she became "Oprah" famous. I remember circa 1981 she did a poetry reading of her works at Rutgers U. and the school paper touted her as "Maya Angelou, lesbian writer, activist and poet." The lesbian part seemed to disappear and all mention of it after her rise to fame in the mainstream media.

by Anonymousreply 43January 3, 2018 2:01 PM

[quote] She was three of the things DL hates the most: fat, black and a woman.

BINGO

THREAD

CLOSED

by Anonymousreply 44January 3, 2018 2:03 PM

I still remember staying behind in a class to watch her read this poem. It still gives me goosebumps.

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by Anonymousreply 45January 3, 2018 2:06 PM

She knew why the caged bird sings.

by Anonymousreply 46January 3, 2018 2:07 PM

So odd that there are replies missing which throws off everything. The last reply I see is 46 but there are supposedly 53 in the thread.

Reply 10 addresses R10, Reply 11 addresses R11, etc. Reply 30 addresses Reply 35 which wouldn't exist yet.

by Anonymousreply 47January 3, 2018 2:27 PM

[quote] She knew why the caged bird sings.

Because there's not much to do in a cage besides sing, swing, eat birdseed, and poop on old newspapers.

by Anonymousreply 48January 3, 2018 2:43 PM

Her first memoir was a classic and well-written. Her poetry will not really last on the page, but she wrote it for her voice--and it can be powerful if never profound. The Dr. thing was pretentious--it was an honorary degree and no one with any class uses such degrees as their preferred form of address. She was a talented entertainer, who used inspiration as her medium. That's about it--it's enough, but she really did see herself as Miss God. Still, I did see her in a small setting with a group of black junior high students from Harlem, and, while still a diva, she was also tender but honest with them.

by Anonymousreply 49January 3, 2018 2:45 PM

My father is a medical doctor and it is indeed tacky to see people abuse that honorific.

by Anonymousreply 50January 3, 2018 2:46 PM

She more than earned that Honorific Title. SHe added immeasurably to American History so give it up. If the Fucktard in the WH can be called President, after participating in CyberWarfare against our Democracy to win - Then Maya Angelou can be refered to as Dr. Maya Angelou.

by Anonymousreply 51January 3, 2018 2:50 PM

Why wouldn't she be at least a bit racist? She grew up in the American South at a time in which blacks were regularly dragged from their homes and lynched. Doctors and hospitals let blacks die rather than provide medical care in any environment but the "colored clinics."

If you grew up that way would you *ever* fully trust white people again? You'd have to be a fool to do so, and Angelou was nobody's fool. Her relationship with white people was complicated, big surprise.

by Anonymousreply 52January 3, 2018 2:58 PM

[quote]If you grew up that way would you *ever* fully trust white people again?

I grew up in the integrated South. They have done fuck all to earn anyone's trust. Gays, blacks, and Jews should get the whole world as reparations for everything everyone else as done to it.

by Anonymousreply 53January 3, 2018 3:01 PM

Ok, I don't hate her, God only knows what it was like growing up as a black woman in the south. But this is a gossip board, so was she really a diva and lesbian? I've seen an interview with her and Oprah and she pinged. Hell, they both pinged. But not for each other, Oprah seemed to want her for her mom. Something echoed in the Kitty Kelley book, in fact Oprah's mom was a little pissed and felt Oprah treated Maya better then her.

by Anonymousreply 54January 3, 2018 3:14 PM

I think she earned the honorific in a different way.

by Anonymousreply 55January 3, 2018 4:24 PM

This fucking thread was resurrected again?

by Anonymousreply 56January 3, 2018 4:25 PM

What songs does the caged bird sing? Bye Bye Blackbird?

by Anonymousreply 57January 3, 2018 4:38 PM

I loved her words but always thought she seemed SO angry. I was never quite sure at who but thought it had something to do with white people.

by Anonymousreply 58January 3, 2018 4:42 PM

I loved her in Bridesmaids.

by Anonymousreply 59January 3, 2018 5:11 PM

[quote] Her legacy was her writing, not gossip concerning her private and personal relationships. You sound very shallow OP.

Oh please..first reply is supposed to cunty, not pussy, R1. And why is dirt on Angelou off-limits? For the same reason her drivel was canonized by the media masters-she was black.

by Anonymousreply 60January 3, 2018 5:31 PM

Her poems are shit, egocentric shit, but I cannot get enough of her autobiographies.

by Anonymousreply 61January 4, 2018 1:31 AM

Apparently she was Bi-sexual, but does hint briefly of a relationship with a woman. Oprah favored her - sure - they shared a horrible experience of child sexual abuse. Further Maya always believed in the power of breaking through what holds you back. Honestly her life was quite fascinating, big scale. Quite admirable, and her recorded history of work in civil rights was riveting.

by Anonymousreply 62January 4, 2018 1:33 PM

For such a terrible person, she sure did inspire a lot of people. No one is perfect. Some are just better than others.

by Anonymousreply 63January 4, 2018 1:43 PM

OP, You clearly must be a racist Breitbart Trump goon repiglican since you omitted her bonafides:

Preeminent Phony Doctor Magna Fraudulenta Dr. Maya FULL OF SHIT Angelooon, Self-Aggrandizer-at-Large, Dr. Dr. Dr., A.D.Y.F.I. (And Don't You Forget It.)

She's the serious reader's favorite writer like Prince is the serious rock and roller's favorite artist!

by Anonymousreply 64January 4, 2018 1:46 PM

She was black and was raped. O loved her. She must be praised and protected, otherwise it's racism plain and simple.

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by Anonymousreply 65January 4, 2018 1:50 PM

Okay, I'm not a fan but I get it. However, I feel like a lot of shitty "black" fiction and poetry gets so over-praised that it calls to mind that old 'racism of lower expectations' canard.

Simply put, a good writer who is black will not be fawned over the same way a shitty writer who is black first and foremost and only writes about black issues will. So the problem is thus: praising the former makes it seem like you're delightfully surprised a black can write as well as a non-black, praising the latter makes it seem like you're lowering your standards because the black writer cannot meet them.

Of course, that's not true, but it's such a thorny issue we now have debate championships held by blathering fools who legit don't even address the debate topics and instead perform shitty slam poetry at 100 mph. And they are awarded for it.

We have poets who've studied the canon and are contributing to it who are ignored in order to praise nonsense that you couldn't tell apart from the lyrics to a deep cut on a Beyonce album if you tried.

I have worked with good writers of all stripes. But I once worked with a noted "black" writer who was completely incompetent. I can only surmise some generous or greedy editor salvaged whatever garbage he gave them. That guy has more prestige and money than so many far better black writers who don't, frankly, re-tread the same cliche bullshit about being black with a "powerful, evocative" ghetto black voice. That, friends, is privilege.

Lest you mistake me and assume stupidly that praising shitty black writers somehow sticks it to the man or hurts whitey: shitty black writers only hurt good black writers. Look at Coates, for instance. He's only relative because he covers the tracks the liberal masses already love. If you want to find a better black writer, Google any black writer accused of being an Uncle Tom.

by Anonymousreply 67January 4, 2018 2:30 PM

[quote]If you want to find a better black writer, Google any black writer accused of being an Uncle Tom.

I already have.

by Anonymousreply 68January 4, 2018 2:48 PM

Put any black person on a pedestal for any reason and kissy kissy their ass because they deserve it. They're black, ain't they? Come let us worship, blah, blah, blah.............

by Anonymousreply 70March 16, 2019 9:59 AM

I know it's like "Again?" in bumping this thread, but I never saw this posted anywhere else on the site. This is "MISS Angelou" reading this poor little girl to filth. Most of the replies from other black people acknowledge what a bitch she was so if they are saying it, know that this isn't just a troll thread.

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by Anonymousreply 71July 5, 2019 3:55 AM

WOW, R71, I’d never seen that!

by Anonymousreply 72July 5, 2019 4:11 AM

[quote] Her legacy was her writing, not gossip concerning her private and personal relationships.

Oh Mary, give it a rest. You're on a gossip forum! You're fooling no one.

by Anonymousreply 73July 5, 2019 4:14 AM