Mama Cass Elliot
Daniel Martin 
Here was a [italic]brilliant[/italic] singer. Elliot's harmonies were almost incomparable, what a terrible loss.
Also, Elliot had a fascinating life; tripped her tits off, traveled and performed the world over both in one of the most famous bands ever and as a solo artist, I adore her.
I present Cassie and Julie, just beautiful, as Cass always was. RIP, Cassie Elliot.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 106 | August 22, 2020 4:05 AM |
She was truly a gifted singer and died way too young.
She also detested being called Mama Cass
| by Anonymous | reply 1 | March 22, 2015 6:24 AM |
And before anyone thinks of posting about it, she did not die from choking on a ham (or any other kind of) sandwich. She died of a heart attack.
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | March 22, 2015 6:25 AM |
Either way, R2, she still died from fatness.
| by Anonymous | reply 3 | March 22, 2015 6:27 AM |
Denny was hot as fuck, BTW.
I wasn't aware Cassie hated "Mama," sorry, Cass.
Bitch could SING! THANK YOU!
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 22, 2015 6:29 AM |
Love her! "California Earthquake" is so good.
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | March 22, 2015 6:39 AM |
Elliot was actually very bright and very funny, watch at the end where she makes Mike blush.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 22, 2015 6:46 AM |
Did Cass and Karen Carpenter ever do any music together? I know Karen was probably too "square" for Cass, but their voices were two of the best of the early 70s..
Sorry if that's a dumb question...I'm drunk. :-)
| by Anonymous | reply 7 | March 22, 2015 6:50 AM |
Not a dumb question, and not that I'm aware, I'll check. Cheers, muthafuckah! Happy Saturday!
| by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 22, 2015 7:04 AM |
she was also, by far, the number ONE drug connection in Laurel Canyon. If you needed anything you could score it at her house. Her heart attack was due to heroin abuse. btw I lived in El Lay during the entire 70's decade (aka "decadence")
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | March 22, 2015 7:56 AM |
Duet with John Denver from the Midnight Special.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 22, 2015 8:07 AM |
"...she did not die from choking on a ham (or any other kind of) sandwich"
My penis was only 3 then.
| by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 22, 2015 8:16 AM |
The film "Beautiful Thing" with many Cass Elliot and Mamas and Papas tunes.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 22, 2015 8:17 AM |
If she were alive today and posting here you would call her a fat frau and make her feel like shit.
| by Anonymous | reply 14 | March 22, 2015 12:30 PM |
To me she seemed like a tragic person. Most (if not all) of the men in her life seemed to be using her for her money and connections and she hung around with a particularly nasty group of people (the sexist, cocaine-fueled hedonists in Roman Polanski's and John Phillip's circle).
| by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 22, 2015 12:51 PM |
Thanks R13! I got acquainted with Mama Cass body of work through that Beautiful Movie!
I thought the joke of her chocking on a sandwich was just a line for the movie. I did not know it was a real urban legend.
She actually died of electrolytic imbalance following an amphetamine-based crash diet.
| by Anonymous | reply 16 | March 22, 2015 12:53 PM |
Wonderful, OP!! Thanks for posting that. I loved it.
| by Anonymous | reply 17 | March 22, 2015 1:00 PM |
Those Cass clips reminded me of something...live, complex, emotional, beautiful music, real conversation between adults...none of the screaming, shouting, hollering and sound bites.
I had forgotten what we've lost.
| by Anonymous | reply 18 | March 22, 2015 1:07 PM |
How beautiful -- Simon & Garfunkel songs I loved as a young teen, two rich and melodic female voices; thanks for posting this, OP.
| by Anonymous | reply 19 | March 22, 2015 2:34 PM |
[quote]If she were alive today and posting here you would call her a fat frau and make her feel like shit.
Most of us here do not denigrate, rather admire women, please don't put that on us.
Here's Cass sinhing and being her wonderful self; the irony and reality of what has come since her passing is sad, I wish the world were a kinder, gentler place.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 20 | March 22, 2015 2:41 PM |
Cass was OK, but her voice was not exceptional in any way.
| by Anonymous | reply 21 | March 22, 2015 2:42 PM |
Harmonizing with Julie Andrews
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 22, 2015 2:47 PM |
R15 you are 100% correct. Cass was a very lonely woman as she spent her life looking for validation and love, but in all the wrong places. I went to a couple of parties in Laurel Canyon in the early 70's as a hanger on and the parties were very depraved. I spoke to Cass briefly and she was higher than a kite and I immediately felt the loneliness in her dying heart. She had a friendly attitude but my gut instinct told me that she was all show and no substance. She more than likely wanted to be home with someone to love her, which she would have preferred to be Denny Doherty, in which she had unrequited love for. She never told anyone who the father of her daughter was but I suspect her sister Leah Kunkel and maybe Michelle Phillips know but they will take Cass's secret to their graves, without telling Cass's now adult daughter as well.
| by Anonymous | reply 23 | March 22, 2015 3:00 PM |
You guys are discussing a woman that's been dead 40 years like her music is comtemporary. Which it probably is to you; it's probably what you listen to since popular music is such "trash" and they don't sing like they used to.
It's posts like these that show me how old datalounge is trending.
| by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 22, 2015 3:03 PM |
I want her "Dream A Little Dream of Me" played at my funeral.
| by Anonymous | reply 25 | March 22, 2015 3:05 PM |
I discovered the music of the sixties while I was in college, late 80s...and the Mamas & Papas were favorites. Those harmonies, mmmm.
Never heard of Cass being called "Cassie'" though, OP.
Both Michelle and John wrote (or helped with) memoirs that made for interesting, if very different, reading experiences. Also, Vanity Fair published a fascinating oral history piece about the Laurel Canyon scene a couple of months ago.
Here they are, all pretty stoned surely, with Cass on lead at Monterey Pop from the Summer of Love 1967. They were the host band for the festival.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 26 | March 22, 2015 3:16 PM |
R24 it's today's so called "music" that you are listening to that is depressing. It's true-they don't make 'em like they used to and Cass never used a vocoder like today's bogus singers do.
| by Anonymous | reply 27 | March 22, 2015 3:23 PM |
From the Pufnstuff movie-
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 22, 2015 3:25 PM |
Yeah, tripping balls at Monterey but fantastic!
| by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 22, 2015 3:28 PM |
[quote]Never heard of Cass being called "Cassie'" though, OP.
That's my affection, and yes she was, she's Cassandra.
| by Anonymous | reply 30 | March 22, 2015 3:36 PM |
She had a beautiful alto and was an excellent harmonizer and onstage personality. That being said, John Phillips tailored a lot of the M&P arrangements to her voice. Without his artistic vision guiding her, Cass floundered. I find the majority of her solo stuff very tepid and MOR, yo be honest.
| by Anonymous | reply 31 | March 22, 2015 3:46 PM |
[quote]Denny was hot as fuck, BTW.
Agree. And he had a beautiful voice.
| by Anonymous | reply 32 | March 22, 2015 3:50 PM |
R30 her real name was Ellen Naomi Cohen.
| by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 22, 2015 3:52 PM |
She was Ellen Naomi Cohen at birth.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 22, 2015 3:52 PM |
If Cass had lived, I think she would've had her own variety show later in the 70s. She was a natural for that kind of format.
| by Anonymous | reply 35 | March 22, 2015 3:59 PM |
[quote]t's posts like these that show me how old datalounge is trending.
Then go, mister. Take your cute-self to a more interesting board; thought not.
More Cassie, Tommy was sweet and hot.
| by Anonymous | reply 36 | March 22, 2015 4:00 PM |
Is it true that the rest of the band, especially Michelle, was jealous that Cass was getting much more fan mail than they were? That seems like a really petty thing to be jealous of.
| by Anonymous | reply 37 | March 22, 2015 4:02 PM |
She looks like John Travolta in drag.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 38 | March 22, 2015 4:12 PM |
R15 and 23, read the recent article in Vanity Fair about The Laurel Canyon music scene and decide if Cass was victimized by men and more lonely than the average young adult. She sure didn't seem like it at the time, and it was a time of total dominance of the music scene by men. Joni was pretty tough too.
| by Anonymous | reply 39 | March 22, 2015 4:24 PM |
[quote]It's posts like these that show me how old datalounge is trending. by: this is depressing
Which is depressing to you only because you fear the inevitability of your own aging.
Tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock...
| by Anonymous | reply 40 | March 22, 2015 4:27 PM |
[quote]It's true-they don't make 'em like they used to and Cass never used a vocoder like today's bogus singers do.
You tell 'em, R27!
| by Anonymous | reply 41 | March 22, 2015 4:29 PM |
[quote]To me she seemed like a tragic person. Most (if not all) of the men in her life seemed to be using her for her money and connections and she hung around with a particularly nasty group of people (the sexist, cocaine-fueled hedonists in Roman Polanski's and John Phillip's circle).
No one gets through their adult life without dark times, you either.
| by Anonymous | reply 42 | March 22, 2015 4:31 PM |
R3 Will die a horrible and embarassingly shameful death from his own stupidity.
| by Anonymous | reply 43 | March 22, 2015 4:33 PM |
[quote]It's posts like these that show me how old datalounge is trending.
Young people use the word 'trending'?
But yes, you're right, so run along and hang out with young people...in the REAL WORLD.
In the meantime, if you hate old stuff and older people, don't click on Mama Cass threads, you moron.
| by Anonymous | reply 44 | March 22, 2015 4:38 PM |
[quote]If she were alive today and posting here you would call her a fat frau and make her feel like shit.
If she were alive today, she'd be 73 -- we usually don't call women that old "frau."
| by Anonymous | reply 45 | March 22, 2015 4:47 PM |
"Hotel California" by Barney Hoskyns is a great read about the LA pop music scene of the late 60's/early 70's. It focuses mostly on The Eagles, Jackson Browne, Joni, CSNY, etc but a lot of time is devoted to Laurel Canyon, Cass and many others who were involved or inhabited that scene.
| by Anonymous | reply 46 | March 22, 2015 4:48 PM |
Her daughter sang on that Wilson Phillips CD where they paid tribute to the music of their parents (Beach Boys, Brian Wilson, Mamas and Papas.)
| by Anonymous | reply 47 | March 22, 2015 4:51 PM |
Didn't Cass guest host the Tonight Show a few times? She really was a great entertainer, and would have been great as host of her own show (variety worked on TV back then).
If I remember reading it right, she had a big triumphant solo concert right before her untimely death.
| by Anonymous | reply 48 | March 22, 2015 4:54 PM |
For a big girl she was a great dancer (much lighter on her feet than I am, and I'm slim)
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 49 | March 22, 2015 8:03 PM |
R24: yes we all have an affection of the period we spent our youth in.
That said, some periods are more culturally productive than others. This is also before my time but I'd agree that musically and in every other way it was a high point in contemporary American culture.
Why? To List a few, the war, the victory, the prosperity, American post-isolationism, and the creation of "youth" as a generation.
As to why the point you make is "depressing", well, that's for you to figure out.
| by Anonymous | reply 50 | March 22, 2015 9:35 PM |
Cass Elliot & The Lovin Spoonful - Didn't want to have to do it (1965)
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 51 | March 22, 2015 9:39 PM |
[quote]she was also, by far, the number ONE drug connection in Laurel Canyon. If you needed anything you could score it at her house.
Marvelous, darling!
| by Anonymous | reply 52 | March 22, 2015 9:44 PM |
Cass Elliot was very counter-culture cool in 1965 but by 1970 she was transitioning her career into mainstream showbiz.
Cher was able to make the transition seamlessly, her beauty certainly helped, but Cass started coming across like a Muppet character.
| by Anonymous | reply 53 | March 22, 2015 10:01 PM |
[quote]If I remember reading it right, she had a big triumphant solo concert right before her untimely death.
On the night she died, Cass had just finished two weeks of sold-out shows at the London Palladium. When she got back to the apartment she was staying in, she called Michelle Phillips and was ecstatic that her run at the Palladium had been such a sold-out success. Then she went to bed and died. Michelle Phillips has said that as sad and shocked as she was at Cass's death, she took solace in the fact that Cass died a very happy woman.
| by Anonymous | reply 54 | March 22, 2015 10:50 PM |
Beautiful voice, fun person, colorful character like Cher is.
My gran said she did have a show in the sixties, some kind of Dick Clark thing called Gettin Together, can anyone confirm?
I am younger and I enjoy Sinatra and Bennett and Lee too, my parents taught me about performers from previous generations, but by dad is a musician.
| by Anonymous | reply 55 | March 23, 2015 4:49 AM |
You immediately recognize her voice. It's not autotuned to that awful bland sameness.
It's hard to listen to current pop--all the women sound exactly the same.
| by Anonymous | reply 56 | March 23, 2015 4:55 AM |
I only know Cass from a Scooby Doo rerun where she's in a candy factory with green goblins and an old episode of Behind the Music that featured the Mamas and the Papas (which happens to be my favorite episode next to the Go-Go's episode)
Michelle talked about when they met: they were tripping on acid when Cass arrived and Cass looked like a big pink mushroom.
Denny talked about her unrequited love for him which was sad. I was like 12 or 13 when that episode aired and my heart broke for her.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 57 | March 23, 2015 5:11 AM |
Having grown up in the '60s and '70s, I much preferred Cass to Karen Carpenter. I still find it hard to believe that so many queens go on and on about Carpenter as if she had the voice of the ages when I found her bland and always sounding as if she was on 'ludes.
Cass had a beautiful voice, a musical sense, and it tugged on my heartstrings in a way that Carpenter's never did.
| by Anonymous | reply 58 | March 23, 2015 5:16 AM |
[r24] "Trending"? Ew. You didn't/don't go to a good college, huh?
| by Anonymous | reply 59 | March 23, 2015 5:18 AM |
About that ham sandwich ... I was in a piano bar in Miami back in 1986 ... it had a guy playing some tunes, singing along, and he would tell stories between songs and sometimes during the songs. He had just played a Carpenters song, and was in the middle of a Mamas and Papas song when he paused and said "you know, if Mama Cass had given Karen Carpenter that ham sandwich, they'd both probably be alive today". Several of us blew our drinks out our noses!
| by Anonymous | reply 60 | March 23, 2015 5:25 AM |
R24:
Says right there in the title of this thread: Mama Cass Elliot.
What the EFF are you doing here, if you find the subject "depressing"?
Go start your OWN thread, where you can worship Miley, Azailia, Kunt-ye, Katy, Bee-yotch-ce and all of the rest of today's soon-to-be-has-beens to your pwecious widdow heart's content.
Sheesh!
| by Anonymous | reply 61 | March 23, 2015 5:32 AM |
[quote]Those Cass clips reminded me of something...live, complex, emotional, beautiful music, real conversation between adults...none of the screaming, shouting, hollering and sound bites...I had forgotten what we've lost.
Mary !!!
| by Anonymous | reply 62 | March 23, 2015 5:38 AM |
She would have made an amazing Tracy Turnblad.
| by Anonymous | reply 64 | March 23, 2015 6:09 AM |
She DID die from choking on a ham sandwich. Her own doctor said so at the time, before PR people tried to white wash it.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 65 | March 23, 2015 6:27 AM |
[quote]She DID die from choking on a ham sandwich. Her own doctor said so at the time, before PR people tried to white wash it.
Umm no. Immediately following her death, her physician said that she PROBABLY choked to death on a ham sandwich BUT HE DID NOT RULE OUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A HEART ATTACK.
[quote] Dr. Anthony Greenberg told a late night news conference: "I THINK the postmortem tomorrow will PROBABLY show that she dies as a result of choking on a sandwich while lying in bed and inhaling her own vomit."
| by Anonymous | reply 66 | March 23, 2015 6:49 AM |
Who cares how the lady died, she's a prodigy, highly underrated, brilliant, lost too soon diva; celebrate Cass.
| by Anonymous | reply 67 | March 23, 2015 10:47 AM |
R55, I remember her hosting some music oriented show, but don't recall the name of it. One of the acts she introduced on it was The Carpenters singing CLOSE TO YOU. I remember her saying she recognized Burt Bacharach's writing style, which impressed me.
| by Anonymous | reply 68 | March 23, 2015 12:33 PM |
Why did she wear gloves on stage with Julie Anderews. Skin issues I am guessing.
| by Anonymous | reply 69 | March 23, 2015 12:40 PM |
This thread makes me so happy. I have always loved Mama Cass.
If you want to really hate on modern "singers," watch this video with Cass, Joni Mitchell and Mary Travers singing one of my favorites, "I Shall Be Released."
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 70 | March 23, 2015 2:04 PM |
Thanks for posting that.
Not to change the subject BUT: Look at Mary Travers. Wow. In her prime Travers was so beautiful and was always elegantly dressed. None of her photos from the 60s look dated.
In that clip, with that hair, make-up and dress she could be on the cover of Vogue today without changing a thing.
| by Anonymous | reply 71 | March 23, 2015 2:17 PM |
In his book "Game Show King" Chuck Barris devotes a chapter to Cass. He produced her TV Special "Don't Call Me Mama, Anymore". He starts by saying he thought he was in love with her. Their "romance" was very pathetic. Cass did everything to try to get to Barris. She asked why he didn't want to fuck her and then said if it was because she repulsed him because she was so fat. She then told him that she learned how to give such good head that guys became spoiled and didn't want to fuck after that. Once when they were going to go on a date and Barris was late, Cass spray painted "When will Chuck show up" on her living room wall. She also dosed him with hashish laced brownies (her specialty) before a big network meeting. Very downbeat and probably untrue ending. He said that he and Cass agreed to make love when she got back from London. Of course, she never made it back alive.
| by Anonymous | reply 72 | March 23, 2015 4:05 PM |
I really, really love the French and Saunders spoof of the Mamas and the Papas.
Jennifer Saunders as the beautiful, yet superfluous Michelle Philips is spot-on and hilarious.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 73 | March 23, 2015 4:21 PM |
[58] Yeah, the Carpenters were like an easy-listening version of the Velvet Underground. Everytime I hear "We've Only Just Begun" I feel like slitting my wrists (vertically).
| by Anonymous | reply 74 | March 23, 2015 4:32 PM |
I agree, r24.
It is depressing.
When I was your age, I had conversations with people face to face.
It was a much richer experience than what you are seeking here.
| by Anonymous | reply 75 | March 23, 2015 4:37 PM |
R72 Chuck Barriss and Mama Cass looked like one fugly couple to me.MC might have even been better looking than him.What an horrible looking troll he was
Cass used to hang around Graham Nash He was the biggest horndog and even he didn't fuck her.Poor Cass Hetty men can be so cruel.
| by Anonymous | reply 76 | March 23, 2015 4:39 PM |
Wasn't there a weird movie about Chuck Barriss where he claims to have been working for the CIA or FBI...?
I think the guy was nutz.
| by Anonymous | reply 77 | March 23, 2015 5:39 PM |
It must have been so hard for her to be the "fat girl" in The Mamas and the Papas. Michelle Phillips were super gorgeous; it must have made Cass feel like shit.
A lot of great female singers had that problem. Janis Joplin was scarred for life by being called "ugly" and "pigface" by her redneck peers in Port Arthur. Sandy Denny, who had one of the most beautiful voices of all time, couldn't stand it that she wasn't a sex symbol. Critics were talk of her "sweet, chubby face" and it would drive her nuts. And of course Judy Garland would have given all her great talent to look like Lana Turner. So sad that these women didn't realize how gifted they were, and that looks are just an accident.
| by Anonymous | reply 78 | March 23, 2015 5:42 PM |
[quote]So sad that these women didn't realize how gifted they were, and that looks are just an accident.
I think it's worse today.
We had a good few years where people weren't so shallow & ignorant....but those are gone.
| by Anonymous | reply 79 | March 23, 2015 5:56 PM |
R70 CONFESSIONS OF A DANGEROUS MIND directed by George Clooney and starring Sam Rockwell and featuring his glorious ass!
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 80 | March 23, 2015 6:00 PM |
My favorite Mamas and Papas song. Maybe you had to be there (1967) to get it.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 81 | March 23, 2015 6:09 PM |
[quote]It must have been so hard for her to be the "fat girl" in The Mamas and the Papas. Michelle Phillips were super gorgeous; it must have made Cass feel like shit.
Yes, Michelle has spoken about this. Cass was specially upset when a publication depicted them as geometric shapes and represented Michelle as a squiggly line and Cass as a big fat circle.
| by Anonymous | reply 82 | March 23, 2015 6:21 PM |
Mama was fat, no denying, but she had a great deal of talent.
Thanks so much for your posts, what a great thread.
| by Anonymous | reply 83 | March 23, 2015 6:26 PM |
Cass Elliott had to be the role model for Tracy Turnblad.
| by Anonymous | reply 84 | May 20, 2016 9:19 PM |
That Doctor sounds all kinds of nasty and unprofessional. Shame on him.
| by Anonymous | reply 85 | May 20, 2016 11:21 PM |
[bold]The Truth About Cass Elliot's Untimely Death[/bold]
The facts about Cass Elliot's death have existed since a few days after she died on July 29, 1974. The pathologist who performed the autopsy, Keith Simpson, was one of England's leading forensic pathologists.
A competent forensic autopsy showed:
1) A heart problem leading to heart failure; 2) No sandwich or any other item in her throat or trachea; and 3) In fact, she had had very little to eat the day before she died.
Furthermore, the drug screen (a standard part of a forensic autopsy) showed no drugs in her system.
Simpson's conclusion was that Cass died of "heart failure due to fatty myocardial degeneration due to obesity". Although this conclusion was disputed by American pathologists at the time, fatty myocardial degeneration is now recognized as a potentially lethal condition. The latest (1996) edition of the authoritative "Heart Fascicle" (officially, Tumors of the Heart and Great Vessels) published by the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology states: "Rarely, lipomatous [fatty] infiltration ... may cause sudden death" and cites the following reference: Voigt J, Agsal N. Lipomatous infiltration of the heart. An uncommon cause of sudden unexpected death in a young man. Archives of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine 1982;106:497-8.
One possible theory is that Cass Elliot had a heart condition of this sort for a long time. This would be consistent with the various times she is reported to have passed out during the 1963-74 time period. In a young woman, fainting is usually due to heat, onset of flu, pregnancy, or some other innocuous cause, but if it continues to happen, it warrants investigation. A "cardiac conduction defect" creating a disturbance of heart rhythm just might be caused by a fatty myocardium and could explain a great deal. Failure of the fibers of the heart that should conduct the impulses that cause the heartbeat to do so is a known cause of sudden death.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 86 | May 21, 2016 12:21 AM |
Loved her voice but she always sang flat.
| by Anonymous | reply 88 | May 21, 2016 12:32 AM |
That's my favorite song of theirs, too, R81. I've been playing it a lot recently.
I think this one is underrated too.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 89 | May 21, 2016 12:39 AM |
Her sister Leah Kunkel is/was one of the Coyote Sisters.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 90 | May 21, 2016 12:56 AM |
[quote]Cass Elliott had to be the role model for Tracy Turnblad.
I don't think you understand what "role model" means.
| by Anonymous | reply 91 | May 21, 2016 12:58 AM |
Who was the father of her child and why is it a big secret still? How mean not to tell her daughter who her father is.
| by Anonymous | reply 92 | May 21, 2016 2:39 AM |
R92 They didn't have Maury Povich back in the day.
| by Anonymous | reply 93 | May 21, 2016 4:10 AM |
She was truly one of the greatest!
| by Anonymous | reply 94 | May 24, 2016 8:19 AM |
R92, don't listen to the person upthread who claimed Cass never told her daughter. Her daughter knows and says so in that A&E Biography on Elliot. Her friend MacKenzie Phillips apparently knows, too. There are mentions here and there of her visiting her dad every so often.
I read a book years ago that I don't remember the title of, but there was an interview with a bartender who worked near Laurel Canyon. She told stories about the musicians there, like how Janis Joplin got all made up, "mascara and everything" I think is how she put it, but her date stood her up. She also said that Elliot hooked up with a lot of guys but none of the men wanted to admit it.
It's like the old joke, "fat women are like mopeds: they're both fun to ride until a friend sees you."
| by Anonymous | reply 95 | May 24, 2016 9:29 AM |
I never realized how physically beautiful she was. Sure she was overweight, although not so terribly by today's standards but my god what a beautiful face she had, her skin and teeth and hair were amazing, especially in the video linked below. Of course it goes without saying she had the voice of an angel. She was so young when she died. Time never had a chance to ravage her beauty but she also never got to fulfill her potential. I have a feeling she would have made it big on Broadway, no pun intended at all.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 96 | August 16, 2016 11:15 PM |
I realize that posting in an older thread is to summon shrieks of "Boris" and "Change the rules, Muriel", and - most hurtful - "Trumpster".
So even though this is a 2015 thread, it's the most prominent one suggested on Google RE Mama Cass on DL, and I thought of her when reading the Mamas and the Papas thread.
And there are some very good links here to look through, especially r10.
| by Anonymous | reply 97 | August 22, 2020 2:07 AM |
Dylan too, r99. Maybe Jews make better music?
| by Anonymous | reply 100 | August 22, 2020 2:19 AM |
[quote]You guys are discussing a woman that's been dead 40 years like her music is comtemporary. Which it probably is to you; it's probably what you listen to since popular music is such "trash" and they don't sing like they used to. It's posts like these that show me how old datalounge is trending.
You have no fucking idea what you are talking about. First off, who gives a shit what's 'trending'. Is that how you choose your music, by what other people are listening to, you don't listen to singers and bands because you enjoy their music? You need to follow a trend? That's what was so great about the diversity within pop music in both the 1960s and 1970s, I actually remember a radio station which would play R'n'B, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Hendrix, Procol Harum and lots of other types of music which was under the umbrella of 'pop'.
Most music is timeless, are you too ignorant or close-minded to comprehend that? My parents weren't exactly the demographic for Hendrix, The Mamas & the Papas and the other great pop music from the 1960s, but I remember as a small kid looking through their LP collection, among the classical and jazz, they had lots of pop, rock and R'n'B.
| by Anonymous | reply 101 | August 22, 2020 2:36 AM |
r101, most music maybe timeless, but the post you replied to is over 5 years old.
| by Anonymous | reply 102 | August 22, 2020 3:25 AM |
[quote][R101], most music maybe timeless, but the post you replied to is over 5 years old.
Old threads get bumped, so fucking what?
People here still enjoy Cass Elliot's voice. They still enjoy her band and he solo work. I think Michelle Phillips is the last band member left. Sad.
| by Anonymous | reply 103 | August 22, 2020 3:35 AM |
Charles Wayne Day is the father of Cass's daughter.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 104 | August 22, 2020 3:52 AM |
r103, I agree with you. r101 is bitching a poster out, it has nothing to do with Cass.
| by Anonymous | reply 105 | August 22, 2020 4:00 AM |
James Hendricks is the father.
| by Anonymous | reply 106 | August 22, 2020 4:05 AM |
