Julie Christie vs. Charlottle Rampling
James Williams 
Two pretty Brits.
Their careers seemed to overlap. Both were fixtures of swinging London. Both chose artistic roles over mass stardom during the same time period.
Who was more beautiful in their prime? Who was the better actress?
| by Anonymous | reply 423 | July 17, 2023 8:44 AM |
Charlotte has harsh-looking hooded eyes. So I say Julie's better looking.
Not sure who's the better actress - I've enjoyed films with both of them. Julie has more vulnerability I think - Charlotte more gravitas.
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | October 29, 2022 6:22 AM |
Both willing to get their kit off, if its essential to the plot. Just like me!
| by Anonymous | reply 3 | October 29, 2022 6:22 AM |
Charlotte did far more daring material ("The Night Porter", anyone?). She has always had a dark aura about her. Julie could do comedy and drama equally well. I'm not sure I can say I like one better than the other, though—I like them both for different reasons.
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | October 29, 2022 6:23 AM |
Charlotte has had a steady career as an older actress in a lot of interesting projects over the last 20 years. I don’t think Christie works much.
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | October 29, 2022 6:53 AM |
The first time I ever heard of Charlotte Rampling was Orca, when I was a child, so I always assumed she was a B-grade actress at best. And then she didn't really show up in movies again for another few years and when she popped up in The Verdict, I thought- Oh, they're giving that poor, rotten has-been a crust of bread. And it was like that for the next 20+ years. It wasn't until she began working with Ozon in the aughts that people who weren't around during the 60s and early 70s understood what she could do. Even so, her filmography pales against that of Christie's.
| by Anonymous | reply 6 | October 29, 2022 6:59 AM |
Julie, Julie, Julie.....leagues above CR in looks and acting ability
| by Anonymous | reply 7 | October 29, 2022 8:00 AM |
[quote] Who was the better actress?
Neither is an actress.
They stand in front of a camera and do what they're told — which isn't much. They are both clothes models and sex objects. Christie had the bigger bust.
Rampling, in particular, is incapable of emotion or characterisation.
Christie, in particular, couldn't read her own lines. John Schlesinger called Christie 'the identikit woman'. The cameraman recorded 30 takes of her saying the one line and the editor has to splice together two words from one take, another two from another take to assemble one coherent sentence.
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | November 11, 2022 5:17 AM |
R9= Jealous, bitter ghost of Dirk Bogarde.
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | November 11, 2022 5:22 AM |
I like them both, but I think Julie Christie is the bomb. Very independent and the only woman who walked away from Warren Beatty. Charlotte did the whole Jean Michel Jarre thing hanging in there while he was ravingly unfaithful to her. Julie was like the female Warren.
| by Anonymous | reply 11 | November 11, 2022 5:36 AM |
[quote] Charlotte has harsh-looking hooded eyes.
Rampling's deadly eyes used to resemble Lauren Bacall's deadly eyes.
But now she's a septuagenarian her dead eyes resemble this Chinaman.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 12 | November 11, 2022 5:39 AM |
[quote] Julie was like the female Warren.
She molested 13 year-olds.
| by Anonymous | reply 13 | November 11, 2022 6:02 AM |
[quote] Both were fixtures of swinging London.
They were shag-a-delic dolly birds on the The Pill promising free sex.
Christie was Britain's version of Brigitte Bardot with permanently-tousled hair which Peter York referred to as 'The Just-Raped Hair-Do'. She flapped her baps around in that ugly 'Don't Look Now'.
While Ramples exposed her tiny mosquito-bites more than a few times— but I just looked away. But it was very easy to look away from her in 'Tis Pity She's a Whore' when the nude eye-candy is provided by the sultry Oliver Tobias and the gorgeous Fabio Testi.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 14 | November 11, 2022 9:47 PM |
Don't remember any bap flapping - maybe I was face deep in my popcorn - but I remember Don't Look Now fondly. An eerie sort of film with Julie and Donald Sutherland acting quite adequately imo. A bit on the artsy side, for the American audience anyway and beautifully shot in Venice. Wiki agrees and says it is "now considered a classic and an influential work in horror and British film"
Christie was a huge international star - with Darling putting her on the map. I don't know if anything really put Ramples on the map - maybe Georgie Girl? But she remained mostly a European commodity. Maybe she just wasn't as pretty as Julie - or didn't get the breaks, or even want them. The highly publicized relationship with Warren Beatty didn't hurt Julie's trajectory.
| by Anonymous | reply 15 | November 11, 2022 10:33 PM |
I think they’re both equally attractive and talented, and I actually far prefer Rampling. Never got the raves over Julie’s supposed “great beauty.” Julie just got her lucky break earlier and in the BIGGEST movie of the year.
| by Anonymous | reply 16 | November 11, 2022 10:36 PM |
And of course, she had a high profile relationship with a hugely famous overseas celebrity. Had Charlotte Rampling dated Robert Redford or something, she’d have been better known.
| by Anonymous | reply 17 | November 11, 2022 10:38 PM |
[quote] the BIGGEST movie of the year.
R16 Which one are you talking about?
| by Anonymous | reply 18 | November 11, 2022 10:39 PM |
Probably Dr Zhivago (eighth highest grossing films of all time) and done the same year Julie won the Oscar for Darling with the gorge board-fave Dirk Bogarde.
| by Anonymous | reply 19 | November 11, 2022 10:42 PM |
[quote] the gorge board-fave Dirk Bogarde.
1. Once very pretty to look at, and lovely to listen to.
2. But a broken shell of a career.
| by Anonymous | reply 20 | November 11, 2022 10:48 PM |
Bogarde told directors to hire Christie over Rampling if they wanted a good actress. Admittingly, a very low bar, since I've never found anything to sustain attention in Rampling's acting, once a great beauty. Julie was phenomenal in DARLING, THE GO-BETWEEN, THE RETURN OF THE SOLDIER, DR ZHIVAGO. Rampling is embarrassing and homophobic
| by Anonymous | reply 21 | November 11, 2022 11:25 PM |
Fabio testi's ass in TIS' PITY SHE'S A WHORE deserved a golden globe (or 2). that was a sexy movie
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 23 | November 11, 2022 11:29 PM |
^ That shot of him shirtless on the horse was DEVOON!
| by Anonymous | reply 24 | November 11, 2022 11:38 PM |
Julie Christie was a goddess and a class act. Charlotte Rampling exploited herself in some very sordid films.
| by Anonymous | reply 25 | November 11, 2022 11:43 PM |
You say say Julie Christie was a goddess but Komarovsky looked at her dropping lower lip (very similar to a she-goat's) and declared her to be a slut.
Both women were presented as sex-objects. 'Far from the madding crowd' tried to present Christie as a proto-feminist efficient farm manager but she was an indecisive fool.
| by Anonymous | reply 26 | November 11, 2022 11:53 PM |
[quote] Charlotte Rampling exploited herself in some very sordid films.
exactly. she's disgusting. She reminds me of Huppert. if you enjoy watching an actress eat nails, drink amonia, being raped by a Komodo dragon and cut her clito off with a pair of rusty scissors, they're your kind of entertainers.
| by Anonymous | reply 27 | November 12, 2022 12:05 AM |
[quote] Rampling is embarrassing and homophobic
forgot RACIST
| by Anonymous | reply 28 | November 12, 2022 12:06 AM |
Charlotte Rampling was superb in 45 Years. Slow burn heartbreak.
| by Anonymous | reply 29 | November 12, 2022 12:07 AM |
I think Jacqueline Bisset in her prime beat both of them in the looks department. Unlike Christie and Rampling, she doesn’t have hard features. I don’t know if she’s ever been put on the same level as an actress, but, like Rampling, she’s never stopped working. She still gets roles.
It’s great that these women didn’t destroy their faces with excessive plastic surgery. They didn’t hide their age, probably because they are English actresses, not Hollywood creatures.
| by Anonymous | reply 30 | November 12, 2022 12:08 AM |
R28 is our very own Simeon Weisenthal
| by Anonymous | reply 31 | November 12, 2022 12:08 AM |
Julie could even shine in typical rank trifle, like THE FAST LADY with oooompah Uber daddy bear James Robertson Justice
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 32 | November 12, 2022 12:09 AM |
very sexy. I'm a 75.000.000/6 kinsey, but I'd tap that
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 33 | November 12, 2022 12:11 AM |
R32 The sex-pot bikini-girl could easily have spent their next decade being a Carry On bimbo bikini-girl.
John Schlesinger needed a bimbo sex-pot to play a bimbo sex-pot for his film. Schlesinger didn't need any thespian abilities and Christie didn't have any.
| by Anonymous | reply 35 | November 12, 2022 12:14 AM |
I think Julie could have managed to play all of the rampling parts. There is no way rampling could have played any of Julie's quite complicated parts. All she can do is looking mysterious and quiet, and getting fucked by a gorilla
| by Anonymous | reply 36 | November 12, 2022 12:15 AM |
R35 that is SO unfair .she's wonderful in Darling.
| by Anonymous | reply 37 | November 12, 2022 12:16 AM |
R29 I thought she was completely empty. I hated that movie , and was furious to have spent $10 to watch what was basically an episode of Derrick
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 38 | November 12, 2022 12:19 AM |
Bisset ? I never saw that great beauty. She has a face like a soccer field. So wide and square. Beautiful eyes, and a good actress, but not anywhere near Christie and Rampling lookwise IMO
| by Anonymous | reply 39 | November 12, 2022 12:21 AM |
I love Chrisite in PETULIA. I love that movie. Janis Joplin, Dick Chamberlain almost naked, the summer of love...what's not to like ?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 41 | November 12, 2022 12:24 AM |
This thread needed a poll, OP
| by Anonymous | reply 42 | November 12, 2022 12:25 AM |
Julie, Catherine and Ursula
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 43 | November 12, 2022 12:27 AM |
[quote]Bisset ? I never saw that great beauty. She has a face like a soccer field.
That is some hyperbole. Bisset was very feminine-looking, even if her face wasn’t oval or heart-shaped. She had better proportions. It’s more apparent when you compare her looks to Christie and Rampling, who both had masculine jaws and chiseled cheekbones. Are you like those fashion people who promote the idea that androgynous features are always interesting and not “boring” and therefore, must be beautiful?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 44 | November 12, 2022 12:48 AM |
NO, I just don't see Bisset's GREAT BEAUTY. I see a very attractive girl who could be the pretty elementary school teacher. just a question of personal taste. But then, I think the 60's greatest beauty was Mia Farrow, so...not everybody's taste obviously
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 45 | November 12, 2022 12:52 AM |
John Schlesinger made a documentary in 1961 about the acting teacher Harold Lang at the Central School of Speech and Drama in London. While filming there he saw a student play featuring Julie Christie. When he was casting "Billy Liar" a couple of years later, he remembered Christie and asked her to do three screen tests. He thought she came across as "cold" in the tests, and cast Topsy Jane as Liz instead. Topsy got sick and had to quit the film, and Schlesinger decided to take a chance on Christie, who said, "John didn't think much of me as an actress then, and he made sure he told me so. I wasn't his first choice. I knew I had a lot to prove." She proved herself, and they became great friends and did three more films together.
| by Anonymous | reply 46 | November 12, 2022 12:53 AM |
Julie was the better actress and prettier
| by Anonymous | reply 47 | November 12, 2022 12:55 AM |
I couldn't watch billy liar, big bore, but I watched Christie's scenes and she was a knock-out. She broke the screen.
| by Anonymous | reply 48 | November 12, 2022 12:56 AM |
Charlotte, like Bacall, was absolutely stunning for 10 minutes when she was very young, then aged like unrefrigirated camembert cheese. Unlike bacall, she an't act for toffee.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 49 | November 12, 2022 12:59 AM |
Rampling always struck me as an off-brand Helen Mirren, not even in the same league as Jules. However beautiful Christie was physically, she was a star, very charismatic and projected immense vulnerability. She barely worked in the years she was with Beatty, which were right after the success of Zhivago and Darling so as famous as she was, she might have been a bigger star had she cared about her career. She didn't really seem to work with any regularity until the 90s when she was in her 50s and has subsequently snagged a couple of Oscar nominations.
| by Anonymous | reply 51 | November 12, 2022 1:04 AM |
Julie thinks that acting profession is rather silly, and likes to devote her time to less shallow endeavours
| by Anonymous | reply 52 | November 12, 2022 1:06 AM |
Rampling has no eyelids. That's never a good look.
| by Anonymous | reply 53 | November 12, 2022 1:07 AM |
OMG I type like a russian whore. time to go to bed.
| by Anonymous | reply 54 | November 12, 2022 1:11 AM |
R9/R26/R35 is the true moron on this thread. Anyone who says Julie Christie couldn't act is quite the dumb twat as well as a prissy queen. Die in a grese fire, you stupid cunt.
The answer to OP's question is, of course, Julie Christie.
| by Anonymous | reply 55 | November 12, 2022 1:12 AM |
Rampling has no eyelashes.
| by Anonymous | reply 56 | November 12, 2022 1:13 AM |
Julie gave more than a few iconic performances: Darling, of course, McCabe and Mrs. Miller, Shampoo, Away From Her.
Also The Go Between, Don't Look Now, Petulia, Doctor Zhivago, and Afterglow.
| by Anonymous | reply 57 | November 12, 2022 1:16 AM |
R43 Is she wearing those strap-on extenders that all modern girls wear there?
| by Anonymous | reply 58 | November 12, 2022 1:16 AM |
thanks R55, I was quite shocked; Julie is an ace actress, she can play a multi-layered emotional scene while giving the impression that her innner life is focused on something completely different, and in the next scene, be completely spontaneous and fresh, while still in character.
| by Anonymous | reply 59 | November 12, 2022 1:18 AM |
Yes, R59. That's especially true of her performances in McCabe and Mrs. Miller, Darling, and Away From Her.
| by Anonymous | reply 60 | November 12, 2022 1:20 AM |
Julie, Dr. Zhivago. Amazing.
| by Anonymous | reply 61 | November 12, 2022 1:20 AM |
R60 don't forget THE GO-BETWEEN
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 62 | November 12, 2022 1:23 AM |
I didn't, R62! I mentioned that upthread as well.
| by Anonymous | reply 63 | November 12, 2022 1:24 AM |
But thanks for singling that movie out, R62. Great screenplay by Pinter as well.
| by Anonymous | reply 64 | November 12, 2022 1:24 AM |
Rampling has dead eyes. She was only good in Georgy girl and Stardust memories, both time playing a sociopathic icy bitch (that she is)
| by Anonymous | reply 65 | November 12, 2022 1:25 AM |
You know that for a fact, R65? Because that's rather harsh.
| by Anonymous | reply 66 | November 12, 2022 1:26 AM |
I love Charlotte Rampling (and Jacqueline Bisset). They are the epitome of the long past european actress, beautiful and whatever plastic surgeries they may have are minimal comparing to women years younger. They look mysterious and with interesting lives. Julie Christie never did a thing to me, but i admit she had iconic roles, she somehow gave up acting, also admirable. Charlotte Rampling has had a grest late career(and she was both in The Damned and Novecento, which captured all her beauty, the frivolous Darling doesn’t compare) but I cant pitch these women against each other, seeing the current generation of so-called actresses i am glad these wonderful classy women are still alive.
| by Anonymous | reply 67 | November 12, 2022 1:27 AM |
R64 Pinter, Losey, Legrand, Gerry Fischer, Bates, Christie, Leighton, Gough, Fox. It's not a movie, it's an eye-gasm, and an ear-gasm
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 68 | November 12, 2022 1:28 AM |
Julie Christie? She can't even comb her hair.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 69 | November 12, 2022 1:29 AM |
[quote] are still alive.
Rampling is DEAD, DEAD, DEAD you hear me ? she's a walking dead, she 's been dead for 40 years. She has dead eyes, her soul is dead.
| by Anonymous | reply 70 | November 12, 2022 1:32 AM |
LOL, love that, R69. Thanks. I love that movie as much as I love Julie Christie.
| by Anonymous | reply 71 | November 12, 2022 1:33 AM |
[quote] she can play a multi-layered emotional scene while giving the impression that her innner life is focused on something completely different
Which scene are you thinking about?
| by Anonymous | reply 72 | November 12, 2022 1:39 AM |
Lots of her scnes with bogarde in Darling, her scenes at the hall in the go-between, she's completely different in Petulia, where she drops her mask at the very end, and reveals herself to be a totally different person under the "act", and in the return of the soldier, she 's again completely different. She has an incredible range , for a beautiful actress, she's quite diverse. Please let me go to bed, i'mso tired
| by Anonymous | reply 73 | November 12, 2022 1:43 AM |
[quote] Please let me go to bed, I'm so tired
Yes, darling.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 74 | November 12, 2022 1:46 AM |
R66 she's INSANELY pretentious, no one is good enough to lick her dessicated arse, and she deserves to be whipped , tarred and feathered for what she said about poor dear silly Helmut Berger. That cunt is a right homophobic cow. eat shit, Charlotte, who the fuck do you think you are ? Bloody Dame frigging May fucking Whitty ?
| by Anonymous | reply 75 | November 12, 2022 1:50 AM |
I guess R75 holds a grudge. That doesn't make her a psychopath, though.
| by Anonymous | reply 76 | November 12, 2022 1:53 AM |
Yes, R75, seems to be obsessing over two separate incidents which occurred in this poor/rich woman's very long life.
Those two incidents were separated by half a century.
| by Anonymous | reply 77 | November 12, 2022 1:54 AM |
Despite that, the comment that R75 made back at R65 seems to be Rampling's claim for all adulation she receives in Europe.
| by Anonymous | reply 78 | November 12, 2022 1:56 AM |
Didn't Rampling make some statement when she was nominated for the Oscar that was perceived as anti-woke and that people didn't like at the time? I remember thinking she was right, but now I can't remember what it was about.
| by Anonymous | reply 79 | November 12, 2022 1:58 AM |
R77, I don't care, I'll never forgive her. The in-betweens were equally pretentious and unpleasant. How dare she call Helmut "just a waiter with a hot ass,"; What training did she have ? nothing. She was in a fucking revue with her sister, not exactly RADA. Helmut was studying acting for years before he met Visconti. so he let the Maestro fuck him ? so what ? is she a virgin ? she hates gay men.
| by Anonymous | reply 80 | November 12, 2022 1:59 AM |
R79, she said that obviously, no black actors deserved a nomination that year. Cunt
| by Anonymous | reply 81 | November 12, 2022 2:01 AM |
No, that is not what she said, R81.
| by Anonymous | reply 82 | November 12, 2022 2:02 AM |
oh really ? i'll find the quote
| by Anonymous | reply 83 | November 12, 2022 2:03 AM |
All during the 1970s-80s, it was Julie Christie vs. Jacqueline Bisset. They competed for many of the same roles, with Christie getting first pick of what she wanted, and Bisset getting the parts she turned down.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 85 | November 12, 2022 2:07 AM |
R84, she wasn't talking about anyone who had actually been nominated. So that's disingenuous. She basically said race alone didn't make you deserve an Oscar nomination. It was tone deaf, how she expressed it, and maybe she's a racist, I don't know, but she wasn't attacking any nominee.
| by Anonymous | reply 86 | November 12, 2022 2:08 AM |
I don't think that producers held Bisset in the same bracket as Christie, not with what she brought in the bank with zhivago
| by Anonymous | reply 87 | November 12, 2022 2:09 AM |
for your consideration Sarah Miles
The Servant, Blow-Up, Ryan's Daughter, The Hireling, The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea, Hope and Glory, White Mischief
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 88 | November 12, 2022 2:09 AM |
R86, no she was attacking an entire population. She's typical tone deaf, british haught-taughty army general daughter, what ? black actors ? very nice, but do they really deserve noms every year ? don't think so? don't mind if I don't
| by Anonymous | reply 89 | November 12, 2022 2:11 AM |
wow R85, no wonder Jane had a boob job
| by Anonymous | reply 90 | November 12, 2022 2:13 AM |
No, R89, she wasn't. She was saying race alone didn't make you a deserving nominee. Again, horribly tone deaf. Meant to attack an entire population? That's overstating it. But I'm not going to go along with hijacking this thread over that. We get it, you hate Ramping.
| by Anonymous | reply 91 | November 12, 2022 2:16 AM |
[quote] maybe she's a racist,
That word didn't exist when Charlotte was growing up in England.
It's not her job to fret over the sensitivities of wannabes on the other side of the planet
| by Anonymous | reply 92 | November 12, 2022 2:17 AM |
Pretty sure the word existed in 1940s and 1950s, even in England, R92.
| by Anonymous | reply 93 | November 12, 2022 2:19 AM |
[quote] for your consideration Sarah Miles
I refuse to consider that muddle-headed fool.
She appeared in two DISASTERS which bankrupted the British film industry in 1970.
| by Anonymous | reply 94 | November 12, 2022 2:20 AM |
But was Miles personally respnsible for bankrupting the British film industry just by appearing in two bombs? She was that powerful?
What bankrupting are you even talking about?
| by Anonymous | reply 95 | November 12, 2022 2:22 AM |
[quote] Pretty sure the word existed in 1940s and 1950s, even in England.
Rampling went to school at the Jeanne d'Arc Académie pour Jeunes Filles in Versailles, France in the 1950s.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 96 | November 12, 2022 2:23 AM |
R95 Miles starred in 'Ryan's Daughter' AND 'Lady Caroline Lamb'.
She playing a mentally-retarded woman at the centre of both. Both films were very, very expensive; the second of the two contained the cream of the British theatre in supporting roles.
The first one killed off David Lean's career for 15 years; the second one was the catalyst of a stroke which almost killed the once-extremely talented writer named Robert Bolt.
| by Anonymous | reply 97 | November 12, 2022 2:29 AM |
Sounds like the blame should have gone to the producers. And Lean's movie was just bad, completely without her. And the other was a terrible bore, period.
| by Anonymous | reply 98 | November 12, 2022 2:32 AM |
Lean also deserved soem of the blame for his pretentious "epic" approach to every movie, even if it wasn't "Lawrence of Arabia."
| by Anonymous | reply 99 | November 12, 2022 2:33 AM |
R97 In its initial release, Ryan's Daughter was a box office success, grossing nearly $31 million on a budget of $13.3 million, making the film the eighth-highest-grossing picture of 1970. It was nominated for four Academy Awards and won in two categories.
| by Anonymous | reply 100 | November 12, 2022 2:42 AM |
Yeah, it's true that "Ryan's Daughter" was not a bomb.
| by Anonymous | reply 101 | November 12, 2022 2:46 AM |
People make up shit to fit their narrative and assume no one will notice.
| by Anonymous | reply 102 | November 12, 2022 2:46 AM |
It wasn't a financial bomb but I have to agree with that bitchy Pauline Kael when she said 'Ryan's Daughter' was over-long, over-produced and had some fatal miscasting.
It was a pity because David Lean's fame rests on his skilful all-male movies and his love of 'boys-toys'; it's a pity that he came undone doing the syrupy romance scenes in Zhivago and the awful, incomprehensible romance scenes in the over-long, over-produced 'Ryan's Daughter'.
| by Anonymous | reply 103 | November 12, 2022 2:54 AM |
R103, Kael wasn't bitchy if she was right, and she was.
| by Anonymous | reply 104 | November 12, 2022 2:56 AM |
I’m not a fan of Rampling at all (she creeps me out, as she does many on here) but Slate is fucking insipid and it should never be linked to support ANYTHING.
| by Anonymous | reply 105 | November 12, 2022 3:09 AM |
R105 I'm sure you could think of a more interesting word than 'insipid'.
| by Anonymous | reply 106 | November 12, 2022 3:15 AM |
It's an appropriate word for that article, R106.
| by Anonymous | reply 107 | November 12, 2022 3:16 AM |
I'm glad no one has attached a recent candid picture of Rampling.
She looks, quite frankly, as withered as a crone.
| by Anonymous | reply 108 | November 12, 2022 3:48 AM |
Did Christie ever comment about working with Bogarde?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 109 | November 12, 2022 4:40 AM |
R109 You can see Bogarde's comments on Christie back at R9.
And Christie was nonplussed at Bogarde; she thought he came from 'another world'; from the 'other side of the tracks'.
And anyway, her head was spinning with all these people rushing around her saying 'Do this', 'No, don't do that!'.
| by Anonymous | reply 110 | November 12, 2022 4:55 AM |
Christie always says she can’t remember about things in her past. I don’t know if she’s just avoiding trash talk or it genuinely bored her. It is telling that she acted less and less after her initial success. I don’t think it was just aging or the lack of parts available.
She supposedly doesn’t use email or a mobile phone either.
| by Anonymous | reply 111 | November 12, 2022 5:47 AM |
[quote] Charlotte Rampling has had a great late career(and she was both in The Damned and Novecento, which captured all her beauty, the frivolous Darling doesn’t compare)
She wasn’t in Novecento. Are you getting her confused with Dominique Sanda? I always thought she was a similar type to Rampling.
Rampling it seems would be almost nothing without the work she got in a Europe. Had she not been cast in movies like The Damned, The Night Porter, Max mon Amour, Swimming Pool and Under the Sand I doubt I would really know her. Having said that she had nice, memorable parts in Farewell, My Lovely, Stardust Memories, The Verdict, Angel Heart… and compiling this post has made me realise what an enviable filmography she really has.
Julie Christie was on such a phenomenal streak during the 60s and 70s Rampling wasn’t really on the same level it seems. I would say Christie was competing more with Sarah Miles and Susannah York around that time. I’d put Rampling and Bisset in the same tier.
I love them all.
| by Anonymous | reply 113 | November 12, 2022 6:05 AM |
Speaking of Miles I thought Ryan’s Daughter was wonderful. I loved watching Christopher Jones in that one, he was sexy in his military uniform.
The film itself is epic in length but it didn’t feel so long to me. It was beautifully shot like most of Lean’s films other films. Miles is another who had a very interesting career. More eccentric than Julie Christie; I loved her portrayal of the eccentric socialite in White Mischief.
| by Anonymous | reply 114 | November 12, 2022 6:13 AM |
Robert Mitchum is so damn great in Ryan's Daughter. He plays fully against type and it works. I always thought he was one of the best actors of Old Hollywood, never got his due except one measly supporting nod.
| by Anonymous | reply 115 | November 12, 2022 6:21 AM |
[quote] no she was attacking an entire population. She's typical tone deaf, british haught-taughty army general daughter, what ? black actors ? very nice, but do they really deserve noms every year ? don't think so? don't mind if I don't
Honestly this was the sort of typical crotchety response I’ve come to expect from her. She seemed crotchety even toward her own son in the documentary he made about her. She just seems kind of irritable a lot. It sort of worked when she was beautiful and sexy but now just seems mean spirited and a little bit bitter. Same with Bacall. People put up with moodiness when you’re young and sexy, but when you are old and moody it just becomes intolerable to most.
| by Anonymous | reply 116 | November 12, 2022 6:24 AM |
Speaking of Rampling she was at one time going to star with DL fave Alain Delon in Comme un Boomerang in 1976 and a photo exists of them on set. She did not appear in the final film. I always found that to be a pity as they are two of my favourite French cinema personalities.
Does anyone know what happened to get her replaced? A google search doesn’t bring up much. Did she ever talk about this or Delon? I know she has said that she suffered a number of breakdowns…
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 117 | November 12, 2022 6:30 AM |
"I always found that to be a pity as they are two of my favourite French cinema personalities"
R117, she's not a French cinema personality.
| by Anonymous | reply 118 | November 12, 2022 6:35 AM |
R117 Probably because she is something of a cunt. Limited actress but great in a well written role by a director she clicks with.
Julie Christie is a far superior actress.
| by Anonymous | reply 119 | November 12, 2022 6:36 AM |
She’s not french but she’s certainly a personality in the french film industry having made films in France.
| by Anonymous | reply 120 | November 12, 2022 6:36 AM |
She also made films with 2 big Italian directors, R120.
| by Anonymous | reply 121 | November 12, 2022 6:38 AM |
R120 The Brits could barely tolerate Ms. Rampling hence her retreating to France.
| by Anonymous | reply 122 | November 12, 2022 6:39 AM |
Bottom line is Rampling is no Julie Christie.
| by Anonymous | reply 123 | November 12, 2022 6:39 AM |
This performance always struck me as odd. Anyone else?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 124 | November 12, 2022 6:39 AM |
R121 ok ok she’s a European film personality then. But she’s really been embraced by the French.
| by Anonymous | reply 125 | November 12, 2022 6:40 AM |
Whatever you say, R122. I had no idea the entire British nation hated a British 60s starlet.
| by Anonymous | reply 126 | November 12, 2022 6:40 AM |
This entire thread is built on the false premise that these two actors were equal in their careers and talents just because they were both British female actors working at the same time.
They weren't. Christie was an Academy Award-winning international mega-star in her heyday. Rampling never was.
| by Anonymous | reply 127 | November 12, 2022 6:48 AM |
[quote] heyday
Christie's heyday lasted ten years but Ramples was about to shift sideways and get a longer, weaker heyday lasting about 30 years
| by Anonymous | reply 128 | November 12, 2022 6:54 AM |
Rampling should have won an Oscar for 45 Years.
And to add insult to injury she was beaten by Brie 'Fucking' Larson.
Spike Lee ran a hate campaign against Rampling if I recall.
| by Anonymous | reply 129 | November 12, 2022 7:05 AM |
Julie Christie had "it". When she was onscreen you couldn't take your eyes off of her. Even Goldie Hawn faded into the background when they were in the same frame in Shampoo.
She wasn't the talent that Redgrave, Dench, or Mirren were (maybe Rampling as well) but none of them had Christie's cool it factor.
| by Anonymous | reply 130 | November 12, 2022 7:10 AM |
I don’t know if Julie Christie was really that well known in the states. Can anyone weigh in who was around then? I get the feeling she was more niche compared to someone like Jane Fonda, who also did movies in Europe at the time. Her movies aren’t really mainstream.
Far From The Madding Crowd was another role of hers…not sure if I liked it or not.
And what of her costar in Zhivago, Geraldine Chaplin?
| by Anonymous | reply 131 | November 12, 2022 7:17 AM |
Dench has always been repulsive - something off about and the Harvey allegations 'I didn't know' bullshit confirmed my suspicions about her.
| by Anonymous | reply 132 | November 12, 2022 7:17 AM |
R131 my mom is a Julie Christie fan, mainly because of Doctor Zhivago, which is one of her favorite movies (she's a first-generation American whose mother was Russian, so I think that is part of why she enjoys the film). I mainly know Christie from McCabe and Mrs. Miller, Shampoo, and of course Don't Look Now.
| by Anonymous | reply 133 | November 12, 2022 7:20 AM |
Charlotte Rampling is very good at what she does and has been doing it without much variation for 50 years. She is mistress of the cold, no-acting, deadpan. She has no range and chooses roles accordingly. She was nominated for the movie 45 years where there is break in this persona for a few seconds.
Catherine Deneuve is actual similar in this, a beautiful actress whose major roles have been in identical cold acting. Being clearly more ambitious, she has chosen many acting parts outside this range, but her success in this has been limited. Even as a factory worker, a cleaning woman or the fat wife of a politician she looks improbably coiffed and beautiful. Her weight gain somehow helped, but her best and more iconic roles are the ones where she is on her default, deadpan, ice queen, mode.
Julie Christie, also beautiful, is another type altogether. More versatile, she never excelled as the other two at their best. But has more range and is clearly less interested in acting. She was the Jennifer Aniston of her time, acting with her her hair as late as Away from Her. This is not a criticism as Aniston is a perfectly fine actress, if not a very ambitious one in terms of the craft.
| by Anonymous | reply 134 | November 12, 2022 8:39 AM |
[quote] my mom is a Julie Christie fan
How charming you are, munchkin
| by Anonymous | reply 135 | November 12, 2022 10:11 AM |
[quote]She playing a mentally-retarded woman at the centre of both.
R97, Sarah Miles did not play 'mentally-retarded' women in [italic]Ryan's Daughter[/italic] or [italic]Lady Caroline Lamb[/italic].
| by Anonymous | reply 136 | November 12, 2022 12:37 PM |
Young Deneuve was a warm and tender personality, and could be loads of fun, in movies like "The young girls of rochefort", or "a matter of reistance". When she became successful internationally, she understood that she would be best marketed as the Ice maiden, and stuck to it. She's nowhere near Christie in terms of acting. Sarah Miles always seemed special needs , and drinks her own piss (literaly). Rampling had a huge international hit with Georgy girl, with Alan Bates and Lynn Redgrave, a top 10 in the US. but she's bitter that hollywood didn't happen to her the way it happened to a lot of brit actresses of her generation. I know that first hand. You youngsters have forgotten, or weren't around during the swinging London, but Rampling became a household name, not because of her prowess as a thespian, but because she bragged in the press about living in a menage-a-trois, which was a enormous scandal at the time. Christie was a sexpot AND a very good actress, she was up there with Vanessa, Jane, Mia, Glenda. Of course Glenda and Vanessa had the stage, Jane was unstoppable, and Mia's career fizzled quickly in the 70's. Her speech at the oscar is still the best ever
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 137 | November 12, 2022 12:47 PM |
I'm more interested in Julie Christie vs. Charlotte Rae.
| by Anonymous | reply 138 | November 12, 2022 12:55 PM |
or Julie Christie vs Norma Rae
| by Anonymous | reply 139 | November 12, 2022 12:57 PM |
Julie is one of the most talented actresses ever. She also had a lot of pain and struggle throughout her life. Despite that, she has a good heart, which is hard to encounter in Hollywood. At a time when gay people were oppressed beyond belief, they identified with her struggles and she theirs.
| by Anonymous | reply 140 | November 12, 2022 12:59 PM |
No, R136, of course Miles didn't. R97 is a weird Sarah Miles hater who's made all kinds of ridiculous claims about her. There's also a Rampling hater on this thread. It is, after all, Datalounge.
| by Anonymous | reply 141 | November 12, 2022 2:17 PM |
Both beautiful but Julie’s face was spectacular. Like an angel.
| by Anonymous | reply 142 | November 12, 2022 2:21 PM |
I liked Julie’s cameo as herself in Nashville:
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 143 | November 12, 2022 2:44 PM |
To be fair, Julie had several nose jobs, one when she decided to be an actress, one more recently. She was different before, not quite as lovely
| by Anonymous | reply 144 | November 12, 2022 3:56 PM |
How do you know she had a nose job recently, R144? She's barely acting anymore. Sounds like bullshit to me. But I'm sure you can provide proof.
| by Anonymous | reply 145 | November 12, 2022 3:58 PM |
easy peasy R145 . (spare me the denial, it's obvious)
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 146 | November 12, 2022 4:13 PM |
You call that "recently," R146? Nearly 15 years ago? That's still not what I'd call evidence of a nose job. She did admit (I believe I read) to getting her chin worked on. Whatever, she's fantastic looking.
| by Anonymous | reply 147 | November 12, 2022 4:16 PM |
[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 148 | November 12, 2022 4:17 PM |
^R147 in that article, a before piic (teenage Julie) and interesting insight on her background and colored sibling
| by Anonymous | reply 149 | November 12, 2022 4:18 PM |
R103 I prefer Ryan's Daughter which IS overlong to the seemingly interminable Dr. Zhivago which I tried on a few occasions to watch but could never make it all the way through
| by Anonymous | reply 151 | November 12, 2022 6:30 PM |
I agree that zhivago is unwatchable.so insanely boring and stupid. Ryan's D.is an interesting movie, the only problem is the male lead. Maybe if he hadn't been drugged by Miles during the whole shooting he would have been better. The only Lean movie that i like is this, for a reason well known to y'all > Rossano
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 152 | November 12, 2022 6:33 PM |
Rampling has written about her older sister who committed suicide in 1966 at age 23. Her father told Charlotte and her mother that she had died of a brain hemorrhage, but he later revealed to Charlotte that she had shot herself shortly after giving birth.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 153 | November 12, 2022 6:51 PM |
no wonder she killed herself, being a sister to that bitch
| by Anonymous | reply 154 | November 12, 2022 7:10 PM |
Christie, it could be argued (though I wouldn't argue it), wasn't a great sister, either. Really, half-sister--the product of an affair Christie's father had. And Christie never acknowledged her. She had her reasons, I guess. The half-sister got the shaft.
| by Anonymous | reply 155 | November 12, 2022 7:15 PM |
R155 it's not like she knew.
| by Anonymous | reply 156 | November 12, 2022 7:20 PM |
She knew she had a half-sister, R156. She refused ro mention her.
| by Anonymous | reply 157 | November 12, 2022 7:23 PM |
she didn't know AT THE TIME; I doubt daddy came home and said " surpriiiise!"
| by Anonymous | reply 158 | November 12, 2022 7:35 PM |
Maybe if I had never been known to, or aknowledged by my bitch sister, I wouldn't have killed meself
| by Anonymous | reply 159 | November 12, 2022 7:36 PM |
R158, the point is, after she knew, when they were both young women, she made no attempt to engage. That's either cold or completwly understandable, depending on how you look at it. The sister had kind of a sad, lonely life and then died.
| by Anonymous | reply 160 | November 12, 2022 7:42 PM |
^smile, and the world smiles with you, cry and you cry alone
| by Anonymous | reply 161 | November 12, 2022 7:44 PM |
Anyway, I really don't see Rampling as an equal to Christie, in career or charisma. Rampling's career has gone on longer, because Christie was indifferent to hers and was content to work sporadically. But whenever she came back, it was kind of an event and she got 2 additional Oscar nomintions late in her career.
| by Anonymous | reply 162 | November 12, 2022 7:47 PM |
I think Rampling and Isabelle Huppert or more of a match.
| by Anonymous | reply 163 | November 12, 2022 7:48 PM |
I think the score is 160/0 for Christie. thread closed ?
| by Anonymous | reply 164 | November 12, 2022 7:49 PM |
Rampling is a more engaging presence. There’s danger lurking underneath.
Nothing lurks beneath the surface of Julie Christie.
| by Anonymous | reply 166 | November 12, 2022 8:28 PM |
I agree R166. I found her to be dull and vapid in her most famous role of Lara in Doctor Zhivago. Apparently David Lean initially wanted (the FAR superior talent and honestly more beautiful) Jeanne Moreau for the role but the producers balked at the suggestion, as Moreau was nearly forty at the time.
The movie itself is a slog anyway, nowhere near Lean’s peaks (Lawrence of Arabia, Brief Encounter, Summertime). Ryan’s Daughter is better.
Actually, Christie is not THAT talented. Rampling is a far better actress despite having less of a profile. Every single film I’ve seen with Rampling, she’s blown me away in terms of her acting. I can’t really that about Christie.
In many of Christie’s other well known (non-obligatory comeback) films, she mostly works as compelling scenery. The truly excellent and criminally under-rewarded Donald Sutherland acts circles around her in Don’t Look Now, Shampoo she and boring Warren Beatty are outdone by the stellar supporting cast. Darling is…fine. A narcissistic slut isn’t hard to play, Liz Taylor or Marilyn Monroe probably could have done that role just as well and nobody considers them a serious actress on the level of Christie on here. She is good, not earth shattering, in McCabe and Mrs. Miller and Petulia. I haven’t seen The Go-Between or her Merchant Ivory work, maybe she’s excellent there.
| by Anonymous | reply 168 | November 12, 2022 8:43 PM |
I disagree. She was better than sutherland in don't look now. especially in the scene after the infamous did they/ didn't they sex scene. When she puts her makeup on and gets dressed, she has the glow of a woman who's just had an orgasm.
| by Anonymous | reply 169 | November 12, 2022 8:46 PM |
[quote] I haven’t seen The Go-Between or her Merchant Ivory work, maybe she’s excellent there.
the go-between is a complete masterpiece, it's a rarity. it was made by all the peak names in the movie business a the time, and they're at their very best. it's a profoundly sensual, political, intelligent, beautiful motion picture.
I couldn't see past the horribles greta scaca and Nickolas grace in heat and dust, and I was annoyed by the usual fluff of Ivory/merchant, but she was okay.
| by Anonymous | reply 170 | November 12, 2022 9:32 PM |
[quote] it was made by all the peak names in the movie business a the time,
Yes, R108, Losey, Pinter and Legrand were the darlings of the day and look how quickly they fell out of favour.
Legrand's syrupy soundtrack has become as annoying as Jarre's Lara's theme.
[quote] it was made by all the peak names in the movie business
That is no guarantee of anything. Otto Preminger and Franco Zeffirelli crowded their films with big names but that doesn't mean they meshed and created a satisfactory amalgam.
| by Anonymous | reply 171 | November 12, 2022 10:30 PM |
Julie Christie was BY FAR the greater beauty. Charlotte Rampling is a more interesting actress.
| by Anonymous | reply 172 | November 12, 2022 10:35 PM |
[quote] Julie Christie vs. Charlotte Rampling
Apples and oranges.
Oscar Winner vs. non-Oscar winner
Rarely seen breasts vs. over-exposed mosquito bites.
Blue-eyes vs. No eyes.
Ascending in the 'IMDB Starmeter' vs. Descending in the 'IMDB Starmeter'.
Plastic facial surgery vs. No plastic facial surgery
| by Anonymous | reply 173 | November 12, 2022 10:40 PM |
I am having a chortle at the OP's misspelling.
| by Anonymous | reply 174 | November 12, 2022 10:46 PM |
R140 is the Good Heart Troll
He said the same about Joan Fontaine's good heart..
He must be Irish-Catholic.
| by Anonymous | reply 175 | November 12, 2022 11:53 PM |
No actor has ever been more visibly bored in a film than Julie Christie in "Heaven Can Wait". Towards the end of the film, most of the characters (Christie, Cannon, Gordon, Warren, etc.) are gathered and wondering what happened to Beatty. It's supposed to be some pivotal scene and you can see Christie literally looking at and playing with her nails. It's hilarious.
| by Anonymous | reply 176 | November 13, 2022 1:09 AM |
[quote] No actor has ever been more visibly bored in a film…
Peter Sellers in Being There?
Alec Guiness in Tinker Tailor…?
| by Anonymous | reply 177 | November 13, 2022 1:51 AM |
R118
Charlotte Rampling is absolutely a French cinema personality.
She has spent much more time in France than in her native UK.
I saw her, irl, in Paris in 2008, she is coldly stunning.
I don’t know much about Julie Christie.
But I love « The Go Between »
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 178 | November 13, 2022 2:36 AM |
R176 I can’t believe that movie got something like 10 Oscar nominations. I mean it’s fine, but Beatty was like the George Clooney of his day - he never put asses in seats but the industry /Academy was so up his ass anyway.
Reds is great, though. That and Bonnie & Clyde will be his legacy.
| by Anonymous | reply 179 | November 13, 2022 3:44 AM |
[quote] That and Bonnie & Clyde will be his legacy.
No, his luscious lips will be his legacy.
| by Anonymous | reply 180 | November 13, 2022 3:57 AM |
^
He was a Sex-kitten just like Christie and Ramples.
No thespian ability at all.
| by Anonymous | reply 181 | November 13, 2022 3:59 AM |
Which has the most NON-OSCAR awards?
| by Anonymous | reply 182 | November 13, 2022 4:56 AM |
Great point re "Heaven Can Wait," althoigh I think somnambulant Robert Redford in "Out of Africa" appears to be stifling even more yawns.
| by Anonymous | reply 183 | November 13, 2022 5:07 AM |
R182 Julie Christie by far.
| by Anonymous | reply 184 | November 13, 2022 5:43 AM |
[Quote]Did Christie ever comment about working with Bogarde?
Did Rampling ever comment about working with Bogarde?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 185 | November 13, 2022 9:05 AM |
[quote] Did Rampling ever comment about working with Bogarde?
She didn't "work".
The divine Charlotte didn't work. She was there to be gazed upon. And to be adored.
| by Anonymous | reply 186 | November 13, 2022 9:11 AM |
So, we have only one boring Christie hater at R168 for practically this entire thread. Not bad, actually, considering this is DL, that almost the entirety of his thread is overwhelmingly pro-Christie, R168's repeated and vapid assertions notwithstanding.
R178, why don't you ask the French if they consider Rampling a French film personality? Because she isn't. Namely because she's not fucking French.
| by Anonymous | reply 187 | November 13, 2022 11:35 AM |
^ Neither is Jane Birkin, you condescending fuckwad irrationally demanding full consensus on the thread.
| by Anonymous | reply 188 | November 13, 2022 12:57 PM |
I'm not demanding a full consensus about anything, R188, you unhinged queen. Take a MIdol.
| by Anonymous | reply 189 | November 13, 2022 1:00 PM |
R179 Warren Beatty didn’t put asses in seats? Shampoo and Heaven Can Wait were flops?
| by Anonymous | reply 190 | November 13, 2022 1:12 PM |
I’m not allowed to have an opinion now? R187 Julie Christie is off-limits for some reason? I’m just saying she’s a totally average actress. I didn’t even say she was bad, she’s just not impressive to me to warrant the kind of reverence she has (on here apparently?)
And plenty of non-French people have become French personalities. Romy Schneider has a French film award named after her and she was German. Jane Birkin is considered a French icon and she’s English.
| by Anonymous | reply 191 | November 13, 2022 3:24 PM |
It's definitely your opinion that Christie is a totally average actress, R191, since it's shared by practically no one here and no one in general, if appreciation for Christie and the legacy of her performances and standing as a film icon of her time is any indication. But, as the kids say, you do you.
| by Anonymous | reply 192 | November 13, 2022 3:28 PM |
[quote] It's definitely your opinion that Christie is a totally average actress, [R191], since it's shared by practically no one here
Schlesinger says she was an amateur. R9
| by Anonymous | reply 193 | November 13, 2022 9:33 PM |
Who is the fucking moron who knows nothing - NOTHING - about film and insists on proving that over and over again in this thread.
Charlotte Rampling is an excellent actress who has done some really interesting work.
Julie Christie is also an excellent actress who has done some really interesting work, although less of it. She has done more commercially successful projects than Rampling.
If someone said to me "Choose between seeing a Rampling film or a Christie film" with no details on either of them, I'd choose Rampling. That's simply a matter of my personal taste and not evidence of anything.
| by Anonymous | reply 194 | November 13, 2022 9:43 PM |
[quote] Julie Christie vs. Charlottle Rampling
This battle is out of date
We need Gugu Mbatha-Raw vs. Ronkẹ Adékoluẹjo
| by Anonymous | reply 195 | November 13, 2022 9:45 PM |
R194
[quote] Who is the fucking moron who knows nothing - NOTHING - about film
[quote] That's simply a matter of my personal taste and not evidence of anything.
| by Anonymous | reply 196 | November 13, 2022 9:54 PM |
No, R193, you're mistaken. R9 said Schlesinger said that.
I want to see proof of that. I call bullshit he ever called her that.
| by Anonymous | reply 197 | November 13, 2022 9:56 PM |
[quote]Julie Christie vs. Charlottle Rampling
Will there be Jello wrestling?
| by Anonymous | reply 198 | November 13, 2022 9:58 PM |
Julie Christie was more wholesome and petite with a beautiful face. Charlotte Rampling was a beauty with high fashion model proportions. Both extraordinarily beautiful in my book and good actors.
| by Anonymous | reply 199 | November 13, 2022 10:05 PM |
R194 is french, and the French have better taste, and more knowledge, than any other nation. Especially Americans. The French are the measure of all things. If he says that Charlotte Rampling (by all accounts, a mediocre talent and once very pretty swinger, for 10 minutes in the 60's) is the great actress, then, she is, and that is that. If he says that she's a french cinema personality, so she is. They just no better, and their is no contradicting them. Or else (watch the meltdown )
| by Anonymous | reply 200 | November 13, 2022 10:14 PM |
[quote] you can see Christie literally looking at and playing with her nails.
she must have been so over Warren at that point. During the shooting of THE GO-BETWEEN, they were so hounded by the press that they closed the set, and the always amicable Alan Bates offered to be the one to speak to the journalists, so as to dodge questions about the Beatty/Christie romance
| by Anonymous | reply 201 | November 13, 2022 10:17 PM |
Charlotte Rampling and Jane Birkin are icons of French cinema just as Brigitte Bardot is.
| by Anonymous | reply 202 | November 13, 2022 10:17 PM |
Doesn't say much for France, R22. Jane Birkin? What a bore.
| by Anonymous | reply 203 | November 13, 2022 10:19 PM |
R187
Je suis français.
Charlotte a été, enfant, scolarisée à l’école française (à Versailles).
Elle a des enfants français , elle est veuve d’un français et a habité plus longtemps en France que dans n’importe quel autre pays.
Charlotte Rampling appartient pleinement au cinéma Français.
| by Anonymous | reply 204 | November 13, 2022 10:20 PM |
Sorry, that was for R202.
| by Anonymous | reply 205 | November 13, 2022 10:20 PM |
Charlotte was educated by French nuns at the Joan of Arch school in Paris.
| by Anonymous | reply 206 | November 13, 2022 10:20 PM |
sure, Bardot was the biggest star in the world back in the day, and every school girl in France copied her look, the breads and Vichy dress. Rampling and Birkin are marginally known actresses who are only remembered by people of a certaine age, and have zero box office appeal, Exactly the same, see ?
| by Anonymous | reply 207 | November 13, 2022 10:22 PM |
R204 La Plume De Ma Tante.
| by Anonymous | reply 208 | November 13, 2022 10:22 PM |
So R204 said that because Rampling went to French schools and has French kids, and spent a lot of time in France, she passes as a French film icon.
She's still no Julie Christie.
| by Anonymous | reply 209 | November 13, 2022 10:22 PM |
I would also be tempted to add Kristin Scott Thomas as a french cinema personality too. The french do seem to embrace these English actresses, it doesn’t really cross over the other way.
| by Anonymous | reply 210 | November 13, 2022 10:23 PM |
in 2008, Rampling was in no way, shape or form "coldly stunning", she was a dessicated hag, with a permanenet bad hair day, but whatever
| by Anonymous | reply 211 | November 13, 2022 10:23 PM |
[quote] Will there be Jello wrestling?
English geriatric vs French geriatric.
(I hope they won't be nude in that Jello)
| by Anonymous | reply 212 | November 13, 2022 10:24 PM |
AND Christie has an Oscar for a stellar performance, unlike these French cinema icons.
Why are we talking about France, anyway?
| by Anonymous | reply 213 | November 13, 2022 10:24 PM |
every tacky has been goes to France, where they can coast on their 15 minutes. Polanski, Rampling, Birkin, Scott-thomas, and co. If you're not a star in France, you're not a star anywhere
| by Anonymous | reply 214 | November 13, 2022 10:25 PM |
Oscar means shit anyway in terms of talent. But thanks for reminding me that the three English actresses who I claim are french cinema personalities have each been nominated for countless César awards which is testament to them being french cinema personalities.
| by Anonymous | reply 215 | November 13, 2022 10:27 PM |
When Rampling tries to act , as in the dreadful THE STATEMENT she's deeply embarrassing. The woman is a mannequin. Julie Christie is the embodiment of talent, class, intelligence, beauty and sex-appeal, and a true icon. Rampling work for Viscontiis barely a supporting part. The "frivolous" DARLING is a beloved classic. Oh , and Schlesinger would cast 4 times an actress he calls "an amateur". Sure Jan. sources ? nil, because he never said that.
| by Anonymous | reply 216 | November 13, 2022 10:30 PM |
[quote] every tacky has been goes to France, where they can coast on their 15 minutes.
I’ve never heard those particular actresses be accused of being tacky. Are you going to pick on Jacqueline Bisset too? What’s your problem with British actresses being described as French cinema personalities? Are you jealous they might have sampled young, hot Delon’s cock?
| by Anonymous | reply 217 | November 13, 2022 10:31 PM |
please, give that french cunt that rampling is a french cinema personality, and let him go away, he's gonna spoil the whole thread with his pathetic claims. French be cunts, as the entire world knows well.
| by Anonymous | reply 218 | November 13, 2022 10:32 PM |
Delon is a homophobic piece of shit, who climbed the ladder sucking cock, and will deny to his dying day that he's a big ol' queen. I've worked in the biz in France, when he's cast in a movie , the young male actors are sent to a hotel the opposte side of town , so they won't be "bothered " by him.
| by Anonymous | reply 219 | November 13, 2022 10:34 PM |
[quote] a stellar performance
An amoral model sleeps her way to the top of the London fashion scene. She goes nude and is seen from behind as she removes her slip
She uses and abuses a (Jewish) man with the surname Mr Gold (played by the limp Bogarde). And there's oral sex.
| by Anonymous | reply 220 | November 13, 2022 10:36 PM |
[quote] the young male actors are sent to a hotel the opposte side of town , so they won't be "bothered " by him.
I’d like to have been “bothered” by him in the 60s.
| by Anonymous | reply 221 | November 13, 2022 10:37 PM |
yuck ,thanks, but no thanks. Give me Jean Sorel any day
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 222 | November 13, 2022 10:40 PM |
Julie Christie was in a Truffaut movie. Julie is a french cinema personality.
| by Anonymous | reply 224 | November 13, 2022 10:42 PM |
Roland was ADORBZ in DARLING !squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 225 | November 13, 2022 10:44 PM |
Who was it who got sucked off on the set of 'Darling'?
| by Anonymous | reply 226 | November 13, 2022 10:45 PM |
R224 not quite. Plus she did not speak french in that movie and has never been nominated for a César. So doesn’t really fit the criteria.
| by Anonymous | reply 227 | November 13, 2022 10:45 PM |
is Roland Curram a french cinema personality ?
| by Anonymous | reply 228 | November 13, 2022 10:46 PM |
Roland Curram is/was a queen!
I bet him and Bogarde performed frottage.
| by Anonymous | reply 230 | November 13, 2022 10:47 PM |
I didn't know Julie Christie has such rabid stans on here! Is this because DLers wish they got a piece of young Beatty cock? She's not even in the top British actresses of her generation - Vanessa Redgrave, Maggie Smith, Susannah York, and Helen Mirren (among others) are all around her age and much greater talents than her.
She had the "look" (thin, blonde, vaguely androgynous with very femme style) for the mod craze with decent acting chops, and rode that wave as far as it could take her! Candice Bergen was considered to be who you got when you couldn't get Julie in the States...and nobody on here is hawking about Candy Bergen's acting talent...
| by Anonymous | reply 231 | November 13, 2022 10:48 PM |
Jean Seberg is a perfect example of a french cinema personality. She was more successful in French films than American.
| by Anonymous | reply 232 | November 13, 2022 10:48 PM |
Roland was totally het at the time.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 233 | November 13, 2022 10:49 PM |
Jean seberg starred in the well known french films " joan of arc" " bonjour tristesse" and "lilith"
| by Anonymous | reply 234 | November 13, 2022 10:50 PM |
I'm still trying to find out if the producer Joseph Janni was gay.
He and Schlesinger were both Jewish and their agent was spunky Dick Gregson.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 235 | November 13, 2022 10:51 PM |
[quote] She's not even in the top British actresses of her generation - Vanessa Redgrave, Maggie Smith, Susannah York, and Helen Mirren (among others) are all around her age and much greater talents than her.
I’d put her in alongside those names. She just works less because she chooses to, the others are maybe spoken about more because they still work - except York of course.
| by Anonymous | reply 236 | November 13, 2022 10:51 PM |
I think even Redgrave used to say she lost roles to Christie
| by Anonymous | reply 237 | November 13, 2022 10:53 PM |
^ She works less because her once-sexy face has dissolved.
| by Anonymous | reply 238 | November 13, 2022 10:53 PM |
[quote] nobody on here is hawking about Candy Bergen's acting talent.
because that doesn't exist. besides, Helen Mirren didn't become an A-lister before the late 70's, and Susannah york would love to know that she was on the same page as Julie Christie and Vanessa Redgrave... LOL
| by Anonymous | reply 239 | November 13, 2022 10:53 PM |
Christie was the leading actress of her generation (Julie Andrews doesn't really count) . She was in one of the blockbusters of all time, and had an oscar. She tired of the movies quickly, because from there, there's nowhere to go but down, and she's an intelligent woman.
| by Anonymous | reply 240 | November 13, 2022 10:55 PM |
[quote] Candice Bergen was considered to be who you got when you couldn't get Julie in the States
Oh please! Faye Dunaway would come before Bergen and after a Christie on a wish list.
| by Anonymous | reply 241 | November 13, 2022 10:56 PM |
R235, you mean , Michael Craig's little brother , Dick Gregson?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 242 | November 13, 2022 10:58 PM |
I think Christie id and was a ravishing beauty and one of the few in that category with focused intelligence that was very effective as an actress. She is one of the greats of her gen (Fonda, Dunaway).
Reds would have been a great rather than good film if she had played Louise as Beatty originally intended.
| by Anonymous | reply 244 | November 13, 2022 11:08 PM |
Dick Gregson R235, R242, also owned Alan Bates.
Bates was first choice to star in 'Sunday Bloody Sunday' produced and directed by two of Dick Gregson's other clients (Schlesinger and Janni).
Bates would have been superb but was unable to do it so Dick Gregson then pushed another of his clients Ian Bannen to take the role, and that also had its problems.
(Ian Bannen had a strong resemblance to Dick Gregson and he starred in that silly movie with Dick Gregson's wife)
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 245 | November 13, 2022 11:08 PM |
Who was more beautiful in their prime sounds like bad English.
And you might as well ask who was more beautiful, Grace Kelly or Lauren Bacall. Because Christie and Rampling are different types. One is pretty and one is not pretty but still very attractive. Same with Grace and Betty
| by Anonymous | reply 246 | November 13, 2022 11:09 PM |
I agree with R244, about our Julie, but I hate REDS. it's a profoundly dishonest, disingenuous movie, that had nothing to do with the real people and facts it was supposed to depict.,
| by Anonymous | reply 247 | November 13, 2022 11:10 PM |
R130 You say Redgrave, Dench, or Mirren are not 'cool' like Christie.
But they know how to handle the English language which is why they're still employed while the cool Christie is unemployed.
| by Anonymous | reply 248 | November 13, 2022 11:14 PM |
Where does Julie live currently? Has she retired from acting?
| by Anonymous | reply 249 | November 13, 2022 11:14 PM |
Retired after botched surgery.
| by Anonymous | reply 250 | November 13, 2022 11:17 PM |
Well, R215, the Oscar meant something a little more than that the year Christie won. And many non-French French film "icons" have also been nominated for a Cesar. I guess Cesars don't mean shit, though, either, right?
| by Anonymous | reply 251 | November 13, 2022 11:19 PM |
R251 are trying to be sarcastic?
| by Anonymous | reply 252 | November 13, 2022 11:20 PM |
Oh, dear--the anti-Cristie queen at R231 has been unleashed, revealing all her prejudices and no sound judgment. Poor dear--she needs some meds, stat.
| by Anonymous | reply 254 | November 13, 2022 11:23 PM |
Implied oral sex.
But Christie has twice appeared on screen asking for oral sex.
| by Anonymous | reply 255 | November 13, 2022 11:24 PM |
Oh, no, the bitchy anti-Christie queen at R250 strikes again.
| by Anonymous | reply 256 | November 13, 2022 11:25 PM |
Isn't that a requirement for "French film icons," to perform oral sex, since France's greatest export is the blowjob?
| by Anonymous | reply 258 | November 13, 2022 11:27 PM |
Anyway, for anyone with a brain who's seen Darling or McCabe and Mrs. Miller or Away From Her or The Go-Bewteen, or Petulia, or Shampoo, one knows the brilliance and beauty of Chrsitie, unlike some old fags.
| by Anonymous | reply 259 | November 13, 2022 11:29 PM |
The conversation has become rather silly.
But I blame the OP for posing an unanswerable question.
| by Anonymous | reply 260 | November 13, 2022 11:58 PM |
[quote] We need Gugu Mbatha-Raw vs. Ronkẹ Adékoluẹjo
R195 I wonder if the Dtaloungers will be raging over their respective star-power, intelligence, and sex appeal in the year 2085 in the same way we're arguing over the respective star-power, intelligence, and sex appeal of Christie and Ramples?
| by Anonymous | reply 261 | November 14, 2022 12:54 AM |
You can’t compare the two. Julie Christie was an international star with four Oscar nominations. She turned down parts that made the reputations of the actresses who played them. Sarah Polley wrote the role in “Away From Her” for Christie and she only played it as a favor to Polley. Rampling had a “look” and she needed a director like Ozon who knew what to with her. She hasn’t any range.
| by Anonymous | reply 262 | November 14, 2022 1:19 AM |
Charlotte was so wonderfully bitchy in Georgy Girl.
| by Anonymous | reply 263 | November 14, 2022 2:02 AM |
^ It was cruel casting because Georgy was overweight but Rampling looked like something from Auschwitz.
| by Anonymous | reply 264 | November 14, 2022 2:12 AM |
Rampling failed at being the conventional pretty bimbo.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 265 | November 14, 2022 2:23 AM |
This thread has some of the best vitriolic hysteria since the one last summer about 1980s countrypolitan singer Sylvia’s cd catalogue.
| by Anonymous | reply 266 | November 14, 2022 3:12 AM |
Murray bartlett is more popular than Christie and Ramples.
IMBB says he's in the 'Top 500' while those two geriatrics are in the 'Top 5000'.
| by Anonymous | reply 267 | November 14, 2022 6:05 AM |
[quote] They just no better, and their is no contradicting them.
Oh dear!
| by Anonymous | reply 268 | November 14, 2022 6:50 AM |
[quote] You can’t compare the two.
I can and I shall. Honestly I think Jacqueline Bisset is perhaps more comparable but with a lesser filmography. Some of her film roles are a little like Julie’s. For example, Grasshopper was more like Darling. In her small but pivotal role in Under the Volcano- I somehow pictured Julie. Also Day for Night by Truffaut was allegedly written for or based on Julie Christie.
| by Anonymous | reply 269 | November 14, 2022 6:54 AM |
[quote] Murray bartlett is more popular than Christie and Ramples.
Ewww the guy who’ll forever be known as the one who shit in a suitcase. Says a lot about the state of pop culture!
| by Anonymous | reply 270 | November 14, 2022 7:04 AM |
Charlotte Rampling had a limited range and was not very expressive. That might work overseas, but in America that sphinx like quality went out with Garbo and Dietrich.
Julie Christie is a great actress, and her looks are very malleable.
Bisset was the most classically beautiful of the three, but lacked pizzaz. Or oomph. Or something. She was too naturally inhibited.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 271 | November 14, 2022 7:27 AM |
[quote] Says a lot about the state of pop culture!
The coming generation is coming, R270. We need to stand aside for them.
| by Anonymous | reply 272 | November 14, 2022 7:29 AM |
For those who saw The Verdict in the theatre did the audience cheer when Newman slapped that bitch Rampling for being a spy?
She was so damn unlikeable in that movie, and I don’t mean in a love to hate her kind of way, just truly repellant.
| by Anonymous | reply 273 | November 14, 2022 7:54 AM |
R273 I hated The Verdict so I don't remember. Just glad when the wretched film was over.
Cuntie Charlotte Rampling said acting opposite Paul Newman was like acting with a piece of wood.
| by Anonymous | reply 274 | November 14, 2022 8:03 AM |
Rampling never has anything good to say about anyone anyway. She's just a 2.0 Bacall, without the charm, the camp, the talent, and the star quality
| by Anonymous | reply 275 | November 14, 2022 8:43 AM |
So Bisset evoques Christie in all the small/supporting parts she's being offered ? wow, what an achievement!
| by Anonymous | reply 276 | November 14, 2022 8:44 AM |
[quote] Bates was first choice to star in 'Sunday Bloody Sunday'
I remember that, don't remember if he wanted to play the part. He really loved and admired Peter Finch. Alan was also offered "travelling with my aunt", when Katharine Hepburn was attached to it. She wanted him, but he thought the script was bad. then she agreed and left the project. Bacall made it clear that she wanted to do something with him too, but more in the bedroom section, than a professional project. Vivien wanted him for Paolo Di Leo. De rougemont wanted Delon, but she vetoed him. the american producers imposed Beatty, who was hot from "splendor in the grass". Alan was very good friends with Gregson and Natalie, and he loved Natalie. When they had a dinner party, or an evening at a restaurant, she would wait for him at the stage door, like any other fan, and he remembered how sweet she was, as a person.
| by Anonymous | reply 277 | November 14, 2022 8:52 AM |
The French worship anyone with a modicum of celebrity and a foreign accent who works for them. It nurturs their delusion that their culture has an international relevance. That's why the washed-up celebs go there to die. Conversely, anyone french who can speak a little broken english and achieves a modicum of celebrity in the anglo saxon world, however devoid of talent, becomes an instant legend.
| by Anonymous | reply 278 | November 14, 2022 9:10 AM |
it must have been weird for darling Roland Curram, who was married to a woman and a father of two, to play a career-killer openly gay part in the movie, when Dirk and Larry Harvey, who were raging poofters IRL, played the straight studs. I don't think Dirk bogarde ever saw a pussy in his entire life.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 279 | November 14, 2022 9:35 AM |
R278. How long ago did your French bf drop you?
Paris is still the cultural capital of the world and France is the most popular tourist destination.
| by Anonymous | reply 280 | November 14, 2022 10:23 AM |
[quote] Larry Harvey, who were raging poofters
That vile man was only gay-for-pay. He used James Woolf to get good movie roles.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 281 | November 14, 2022 10:38 AM |
What a significant study you use, R267. Could it be because he's working and is 30 years younger?
| by Anonymous | reply 282 | November 14, 2022 12:02 PM |
But it didn't kill his career, R279. Nor was Harvey gay. Harvey had lots of women in his day.
| by Anonymous | reply 283 | November 14, 2022 12:08 PM |
Alan also wanted really bad to play Claggart in Peter Ustinov's Billy Budd , at one point Ustinov was almost convinced , but he was set on Terry stamp, and felt that the dynamics (age, etc) would be wrong. That was a lifelong disappointment in Alan's life. He wanted to be able to express himself in his roles, or make a comment. Bates and Stamp of course went on to star in FAR FROM THE MADDING CROWD together, with Finch and our Julie. They were lifelong pals. Stamp visited him at the London clinic until the end, bringing him the "Terence Stamp" chocolate
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 284 | November 14, 2022 2:27 PM |
R283, accepted. However who was the A-lister who opened the wrong door at a Hollywood party, only to find Laurence Harvey being nailed to the cross by another A-list "het" guy ?
| by Anonymous | reply 285 | November 14, 2022 2:34 PM |
[quote] Paris is still the cultural capital of the world
ahum. just NO. London took over in the 60's, then NYC, wake up Frenchie. You're bringing coal to my mine. Delusion of grandeur. Paris is still one of the european capitals of fashion, I'll give you that.
| by Anonymous | reply 286 | November 14, 2022 2:38 PM |
[quote] only to find Laurence Harvey being nailed to the cross by another A-list "het" guy ?
Who was the other a list het, rock Hudson?
| by Anonymous | reply 287 | November 14, 2022 4:25 PM |
Rampling's role in The Verdict was one of many that Christie turned down.
| by Anonymous | reply 288 | November 14, 2022 5:01 PM |
R277 You're quite the Alanophile.
But what is this?
[quote] Vivien wanted him for Paolo Di Leo
| by Anonymous | reply 289 | November 14, 2022 10:48 PM |
We need to get with the times.
Gugu Mbatha-Raw vs. Ronkẹ Adékoluẹjo are more popular than Christie and Ramples.
| by Anonymous | reply 290 | November 14, 2022 10:54 PM |
[quote]R288 Rampling's role in The Verdict was one of many that Christie turned down.
Christie turned down practically every star role in her era. I admire that, though it’s dismaying to a moviegoer. She just didn’t need huge salary after huge salary to live on.
I loved her comeback in the indie AFTERGLOW - which is the kind of movie she was attracted to all along.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 291 | November 14, 2022 11:23 PM |
[quote]R241 Oh please! Faye Dunaway would come before Bergen and after a Christie on a wish list.
And tho she’s my favorite, Dunaway was who you went to when you couldn’t get Fonda.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 292 | November 15, 2022 1:14 AM |
That cheap cunt Bette Midler!
| by Anonymous | reply 294 | November 15, 2022 1:24 AM |
Faye was going to do JULIA with Fonda, but was holding out for a George Cukor film that never materialized.
So Redgrave should thank her.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 295 | November 15, 2022 1:50 AM |
R288 she was smart. What an awful role. And for Newman’s best performance ever? Don’t believe that quote w/o receipts.
| by Anonymous | reply 296 | November 15, 2022 2:12 AM |
Dunaway might have been great as Julia; at her very best she was extraordinary, as is Redgrave in that plum role.
| by Anonymous | reply 297 | November 15, 2022 2:39 AM |
Dunaway at her best (about 50 years ago) was good. She was never any Vanessa Redgrave.
| by Anonymous | reply 298 | November 15, 2022 2:42 AM |
Christie actually said yes to American Gigolo, then dropped out when Richard Gere was briefly replaced by John Travolta. Then Travolta dropped out and Gere returned to the role.
| by Anonymous | reply 299 | November 15, 2022 3:00 AM |
Please, R292 - R298! Can we keep those overpaid Americans out of this conversation!
| by Anonymous | reply 300 | November 15, 2022 6:10 AM |
R285 Gossip without names or any documentary evidence is a waste of time.
| by Anonymous | reply 302 | November 15, 2022 7:47 AM |
Rampling is not a real woman. She hasn't got any tits.
| by Anonymous | reply 303 | November 15, 2022 9:23 AM |
[quote] Who was the other a list het, rock Hudson?
don't think so. I read it here, on DL, earlier this year. It's not my story. I was hoping that the poster would be on this thread. Someone opened the wrong door, possibly Steve McQueen, and Harvey was beig fucked against a wall by some other big name.
| by Anonymous | reply 304 | November 15, 2022 11:01 AM |
[quote]But what is this? Vivien wanted him for Paolo Di Leo
R289 we'll be waiting for your gay card at the return desk. Please turn in ASAP
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 305 | November 15, 2022 11:03 AM |
Dunaway is a million times the actress Fonda is.
| by Anonymous | reply 306 | November 15, 2022 3:55 PM |
Tbf Faye’s situation is sad. So much talent and screen charisma just wasted over the past few decades. Meanwhile other actresses like Fonda and Keaton… go on and on in widely released movies.
| by Anonymous | reply 309 | November 15, 2022 6:44 PM |
I would've hated to see Dunaway in Klute, or Julia, or anything else Fonda clearly was superior for.
| by Anonymous | reply 310 | November 15, 2022 7:45 PM |
[quote] De rougemont wanted Delon
R277 Maxime De rougemont?
| by Anonymous | reply 311 | November 15, 2022 9:14 PM |
[quote]r309 Faye’s situation is sad. So much talent and screen charisma just wasted over the past few decades. Meanwhile other actresses like Fonda and Keaton… go on and on in widely released movies.
Faye aborted her own career.
Fonda and Keaton didn’t slap stagehands because they were off their meds.
| by Anonymous | reply 312 | November 16, 2022 1:35 AM |
[quote] Alan also wanted really bad to play Claggart in Peter Ustinov's Billy Budd, at one point Ustinov was almost convinced , but he was set on Terry stamp, and felt that the dynamics (age, etc) would be wrong.
I don't understand. 'Billy Budd' is such an interesting and attractive movie. But are you saying Bates was considered for Claggart or Billy?
I loathed that 53 year old American who played the loathsome Claggart who the book describes as being his mid thirties. The lovely Alan was 28 and only four years older than Stamp. He would made the relationship into a sexy lovers’ spat between equals.
| by Anonymous | reply 313 | November 16, 2022 1:48 AM |
R312 that’s right. Their movies may no longer be good but they’re easy and professional to work with and that’s what longevity is about.
| by Anonymous | reply 314 | November 16, 2022 2:05 AM |
OFF-TOPIC POST
[quote] Fonda … didn’t slap stagehands because they were off their meds
R312 But something nasty happened on the set of "In the Cool of the Day" in 1962. Fonda has blocked it out of her memory and the ever-diplomatic Angela Lansbury refused to talk about it.
| by Anonymous | reply 315 | November 16, 2022 2:22 AM |
R295 I really can’t see Dunaway as Julia. I think she’d have been more of a Lillian type considering how neurotic Lillian was. It would have been interesting to see Dunaway and Fonda on screen together though.
| by Anonymous | reply 316 | November 16, 2022 6:10 AM |
When I first started getting into older movies I remember reading the famous Al Pacino quote where he talks about Christie being the most poetic of actresses. I also saw that she seems to have been the object of Beatty’s affection and also was spoken highly of by many others in the industry. After watching her movies initially I did not get the appeal, u found her neither the most beautiful nor the most exciting to watch. However years later having watched some of her films a few times she’s easily become one of my favourite performers. Darling alone is one of my favourite films. I also love her character in Billy Liar who tries to motivate and inspire the title character to no avail. I love her choices and I love her relatively small output. Most of her big name films have some importance or cultural significance, Dr Zhivago, Shampoo, McCabe & Mrs Miller, Away from Her and Don’t Look Now.
| by Anonymous | reply 317 | November 16, 2022 6:17 AM |
[quote] I loathed that 53 year old American who played the loathsome Claggart who the book describes as being his mid thirties. The lovely Alan was 28 and only four years older than Stamp. He would made the relationship into a sexy lovers’ spat between equals.
For sure Robert Ryan was possibly too old if he was meant to be in his 30s but I can’t see Alan Bates in this sadistic role. Personally I enjoy watching Robert Ryan and find something menacing and dangerously sexy in a lot of his performances. I think he was great in this film but I never read the book so I can’t speak for how well suited he is for the character as written.
| by Anonymous | reply 318 | November 16, 2022 6:23 AM |
[quote] The lovely Alan was 28 and only four years older than Stamp. He would made the relationship into a sexy lovers’ spat between equals.
precisely, my point.
| by Anonymous | reply 319 | November 16, 2022 9:36 AM |
(quote] but I can’t see Alan Bates in this sadistic role.
Alan was great in a fairly sadistic role in Ivory's quartett, with his bestie Maggie, and a young and pretty Adjani. Adjani was extremely ruse to Maggie during the shooting. Also in THE SHOUT.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 320 | November 16, 2022 9:39 AM |
[QUOTE Maxime De rougemont?
I'm so sorry, did I say de Rougemont ? I meant de Rochemont, I mixed them up
| by Anonymous | reply 321 | November 16, 2022 9:41 AM |
rude, Adjani was rude to dame Maggie
| by Anonymous | reply 322 | November 16, 2022 9:50 AM |
[quote] It would have been interesting to see Dunaway and Fonda on screen together though.
"Hurry sundown" is available to you
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 323 | November 16, 2022 9:52 AM |
"Do you like Rampling ? - I don't know, I've never tried "
sixties swinger's joke
| by Anonymous | reply 324 | November 16, 2022 9:56 AM |
Q: Do you like rampling ?
A: I've never rampled
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 326 | November 16, 2022 10:32 AM |
R302, this is a quote from " HoMo" , on the "biggest whore of old Hollywood" thread :
[quote]While working at the downtown spa he found Robert Wagner plowing Laurence Harvey in the steam room.
Of course it was RJ Wagner, I remember that now, but in the version I knew, it was at some Hollywood party, and there was another A-lister involved , opening the fateful door; but maybe my memory doesn't serve me well
| by Anonymous | reply 327 | November 16, 2022 9:58 PM |
Laurence Harvey = Larry Skikne = Vile user.
| by Anonymous | reply 328 | November 16, 2022 10:04 PM |
That gold lamé halterneck is unflattering if not trashy.
How does he pronounce 'Eagar'?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 330 | November 17, 2022 4:48 AM |
SO nice to hear a brief but effusive thank you speech. Poor Elizabeth Hartman looks depressed, unless I'm projecting.
| by Anonymous | reply 331 | November 17, 2022 5:01 AM |
[quote]r330 That gold lamé halterneck is unflattering if not trashy.
I swear I read somewhere she sewed the outfit herself. That can’t be right, can it?
| by Anonymous | reply 332 | November 17, 2022 6:32 AM |
R332=Glenn Close
Glenn, suck it bitch, you lost on all accounts, you are, and always will be, a loser in gold lamé
| by Anonymous | reply 333 | November 17, 2022 7:53 AM |
"What Julie Christie wears has more real impact on fashion than all the clothes of the ten Best-Dressed women combined" - Time Magazine
| by Anonymous | reply 334 | November 17, 2022 7:56 AM |
look, without Bardot, no Christie (and no deneuve, etc), without Monroe, no Bardot, and without Harlow, no Monroe. so the winner is , me .
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 335 | November 17, 2022 2:04 PM |
"look, without Bardot, no Christie"
Hardly, R335. They couldn't have been more different.
| by Anonymous | reply 336 | November 18, 2022 12:36 AM |
But I was the Battersea Bardot not her
| by Anonymous | reply 342 | November 18, 2022 11:50 AM |
And I repeat: Christie and Bardot are NOTHING alike.
| by Anonymous | reply 343 | November 18, 2022 1:50 PM |
They exactly the same, except Christie can act
| by Anonymous | reply 344 | November 18, 2022 1:55 PM |
All those pictures proved is that they had a similar kind of bouffant blonde hairdo. Their bodies weren't similar, their careers weren't similar, their personalities weren't similar. They were, in fact, in no way alike, other than the fact that they both had breasts and vaginas, which is enough, I guess, for some dumb queens here.
| by Anonymous | reply 345 | November 18, 2022 1:57 PM |
Calm down , Pauline Kael. What we are saying here, is that pouty blonde beauty Chrisite was marketed as the english Bardot. They had the same STYLE; of course the similarities ended there, because Christie proved herself an actress of depth and versatility, and not a sexy joke.
| by Anonymous | reply 346 | November 18, 2022 2:06 PM |
R346, first I'll take the compliment of being called Pauline Kael. Second, what "we" are saying? The royal "we," Mary? And no, they didn't have the same style. I agree with your assessment of Christie, though, and so would Pauline.
| by Anonymous | reply 347 | November 18, 2022 2:29 PM |
R347 , yes ,it's the Royal "we". Also, Brigitte and Julie have something to tell you :
| by Anonymous | reply 348 | November 18, 2022 2:36 PM |
We were the same sort of sex-kitten 60's starlets in the begining, Julie and me, R348 is right.
| by Anonymous | reply 349 | November 18, 2022 2:38 PM |
Yes, we were. It's true. We were very similar
| by Anonymous | reply 350 | November 18, 2022 2:38 PM |
Oh, dear, R348 is talking to herself.
| by Anonymous | reply 352 | November 18, 2022 2:45 PM |
No, he isn't, I'm the real Brigitte, je suis vraiment Brigitte, en direct de La Madrague, ma maison à St-Tropez
| by Anonymous | reply 353 | November 18, 2022 3:02 PM |
And I'm the real Julie Christie, typing from my farm in Wales. I think you're all being very mean to R348, he's a very sweet guy. And he got it right about us. Do better
| by Anonymous | reply 354 | November 18, 2022 3:03 PM |
Thanks girls. Merci les filles.
| by Anonymous | reply 355 | November 18, 2022 3:05 PM |
Love Julie. Charlotte not so much. She looks like Michael Rennie with a wig. Like Jean Simmons, she had a sour, dour looking face.
| by Anonymous | reply 356 | November 18, 2022 3:08 PM |
Mary Jekyll and Nancy Hyde at R355, et al.
| by Anonymous | reply 357 | November 18, 2022 3:09 PM |
Jean Simmons was ravishing. Charlotte had a "genre"
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 358 | November 18, 2022 3:12 PM |
Sorry here's Jean, I was fascinated by Michael Craig's sexy 'stache
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 359 | November 18, 2022 3:13 PM |
Bardot and Christie and are very alike. Neither can act.
| by Anonymous | reply 360 | November 18, 2022 9:46 PM |
Ms. White had a close facial resemblance to fellow British actress Julie Christie.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 362 | November 19, 2022 12:46 AM |
She looks more like Dyan Cannon, R362.
| by Anonymous | reply 363 | November 19, 2022 12:52 AM |
R342, R362 I bet your 'Poor Cow" didn't play well in Peoria. I doubt an American distributor would want to show a movie with such a dreary title.
| by Anonymous | reply 365 | November 19, 2022 1:44 AM |
Julie Christie would never have appeared in any movie called "I'll Never Forget What's 'Isname." She was more highbrow than that.
| by Anonymous | reply 366 | November 19, 2022 2:43 AM |
And before any of you cunts point to the "I'd like to suck his cock" scene in "Shampoo," you'll do well to recall Pauline Kael compared "Shampoo" to "Smiles od a Summer Night" as a "great carnal comedy."
| by Anonymous | reply 367 | November 19, 2022 2:45 AM |
The Donovan song was top of the charts from Peoria to Porlock.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 368 | November 19, 2022 2:49 AM |
[Quote] Pauline Kael compared "Shampoo" to "Smiles od (sic) a Summer Night" as a "great carnal comedy."
When she was wrong she was really wrong
| by Anonymous | reply 370 | November 19, 2022 3:13 AM |
R322, where did you hear this?
| by Anonymous | reply 371 | November 19, 2022 11:56 AM |
But she wasn't wrong, R370.
| by Anonymous | reply 372 | November 19, 2022 2:13 PM |
Even Beatty said he didn't understand what Kael meant by Kaleidoscopic farce. Beatty runs around in a dither as he did in Heaven can Wait and Bugsy, but George doesn't really seem all that interested in any of the women or hair for that matter and the attempt to give his character pathos doesn't wash. And setting it on the eve of Nixon's election is really rather pointless. Would the characters be any different post-Watergate?
NY Times
Disappointment comes in all weights and flavors, but the brand that's generated by Hal Ashby's “Shampoo” is a bit harder to swallow than some. It's the disappointment that occurs when you look forward to a particular combination of talents—and the ingredients don't mesh. The movie, produced by Warren Beatty and written by him and the immensely gifted Robert Towne, begins witha reminder of “Carnal Knowledge” (sexual gurglings in the dark), and contains some echoes of Robert Altman's work—mainly in the use of overlapping dialogue. But the jokes are so leaden and the characters so bread that this glossy farce never levitates: it's harmless and heavy, like a dead mastodon. “Shampoo” opened yesterday at the Coronet.
| by Anonymous | reply 373 | November 19, 2022 4:19 PM |
Some tired, misguided review of the time in the NY Times means less than nothing in this case, since "Shampoo" is now regarded as a classic and made it to #47 on the American Film Institute's top 100 funniest movies in American cinema. So yes, Pauline was right. Not to mention some nobody film critic in the NY Times from 1975 doesn't compare with Kael's name and legacy.
| by Anonymous | reply 374 | November 19, 2022 5:27 PM |
Shampoo currently has an unimpressive 65 Metascore 😞
[63] Chicago Sun-Times Roger Ebert-The movie didn't quite work for me. Its timing wasn't confident enough to pull off its ambitious conception.
[60] Variety-All the excellent creative components do not add up to a whole. There are, however, strong elements in the film. Warden’s performance is outstanding. He makes the most of a script and direction which gives his character much more dimension than the prototype cuckold.
[60] Chicago Reader Dave Kehr-Slick and often funny, but the smugness of the satire and the stunted emotions are finally wearying.
[50]-Village Voice Andrew Sarris The parts are better than the whole.
| by Anonymous | reply 375 | November 19, 2022 5:48 PM |
One Pauline Kael and a place on the AFI Top 100 Funniest Comedies list is worth more than all those critics' opinions, so stop trying to sell me, R375.
| by Anonymous | reply 376 | November 19, 2022 5:52 PM |
In your estimation. The majority rules here. 65 is not an impressive average😞🥱
| by Anonymous | reply 377 | November 19, 2022 5:53 PM |
R377 thinks art is about consensus opinion. It isn't.
| by Anonymous | reply 378 | November 19, 2022 5:57 PM |
Bernardo Bertolucci’s Last Tango in Paris was presented for the first time on the closing night of the New York Film Festival, October 14, 1972: that date should become a landmark in movie history comparable to May 29, 1913—the night Le Sacre du Printemps was first performed—in music history. There was no riot, and no one threw anything at the screen, but I think it’s fair to say that the audience was in a state of shock, because Last Tango in Paris has the same kind of hypnotic excitement as the Sacre, the same primitive force, and the same thrusting, jabbing eroticism. PAULINE KAEL
Tango is a tedious, pretension bore and certainly not erotic. The first sexual encounter is performed fully clothed, lasts about 90 seconds and is the epitome of wham! bam! thank you ma'am.
| by Anonymous | reply 379 | November 19, 2022 5:57 PM |
It's a "pretension (sic) bore," is it, R379?
| by Anonymous | reply 380 | November 19, 2022 6:01 PM |
Yes, it is
[Quote] thinks art is about consensus opinion. It isn't.
[Quote] a place on the AFI Top 100 Funniest Comedies list is worth more than all those critics' opinions
isn't the AFI list a consensus?
| by Anonymous | reply 381 | November 19, 2022 6:07 PM |
In your estimation, R381. That's all it is. And I'll take Pauline Kael and the AFI over the likes of the Chicago Reader.
| by Anonymous | reply 382 | November 19, 2022 6:13 PM |
Can you explain why you think Shampoo is such a good film? You've provided your opinion about critics, but you haven't really explained what why you think the film is good. So, it's hardly a persuasive argument.
| by Anonymous | reply 383 | November 19, 2022 6:19 PM |
And you think your argument at R373 was persuasive to me, R382? Because it wasn't. Not that I feel the need to convince you because I don't care, but I found "Shampoo" to be a smart and biting satire of Nixon-era politics and a sly comment on the rich, white Los Angeles elite of the time (that still holds up). So you have your opinion and I have mine.
| by Anonymous | reply 384 | November 19, 2022 6:26 PM |
[quote] Can you explain why you think Shampoo is such a good film?
The critics were told it was a "Restoration Comedy" (go to Google) and therefore it must be profound.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 386 | November 19, 2022 11:16 PM |
Christie hardly gets 5 minutes screen time in this masturbatory fantasy.
The star hogs the screen and gets a surrogate to play his twin and also hog the screen.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 387 | November 19, 2022 11:20 PM |
'Shampoo' deals with the resurrection of the Republican party, according to this link—
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 388 | November 19, 2022 11:27 PM |
[Quote]The critics were told it was a "Restoration Comedy" (go to Google) and therefore it must be profound.
Actually, Kael in her review was the only critic I know of who compared it to a restoration comedy to say nothing of her comparing to far superior films i.e., Rules of the Game, Smiles of a Summers Night, Bringing up Baby . . .
'Shampoo doesn't seem inspired the Renoir's roundelay Rules of the Game does. It doesn't have the feeling that one gets from that Renoir film and Shampoo is not as lyrical or as elegantly moldy to the taste as parts of Bergman's 'Smiles'. It doesn't give the lunatic delight of Bringing up Baby which in its homegrown screwball style also suggested an equivalent of restoration comedy. But it's the most virtuous so example of sophisticated kaleidoscopic farce that American movie makers have ever come up with'
| by Anonymous | reply 389 | November 20, 2022 12:53 AM |
[quote] Kael in her review was the only critic I know of who compared it to a restoration comedy
All my social circle referred to it as an imitation-restoration-comedy. A comedy about vapid, amoral, self-obsessed rich people in nice clothes anxious about sexual encounters while regarding their servants as props.
I admit I haven't watched a genuine-restoration-comedy in decades but I do remember having a good laugh (which is something I don't remember in 'Shampoo')
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 390 | November 20, 2022 1:04 AM |
My 1979 Dictionary of Movie Stars has Julie Christie as one of its modern stars, but doesn't even mention Charlotte Rampling.
| by Anonymous | reply 391 | November 20, 2022 1:18 AM |
[Quote]'Shampoo' deals with the resurrection of the Republican party, according to this link—
According to Ken Anderson Dreams are what Le Cinema is For
'What it never was to me was a particularly profound political satire. The election night stuff, the TVs and radios blaring ignored campaign speeches and election returns...none of it gelled for me as an ironic statement. Certainly nothing deeper than the observation that America's complacency is what helped a man like Nixon get into office. I'm not saying that others haven't found the subtext to be appropriately weighty, I just find it significant that over the years I've encountered many people who love Shampoo, but only dimly recall any of the political references (or even the poignant and pointed Vietnam-related death of an unseen character).'
| by Anonymous | reply 392 | November 20, 2022 1:22 AM |
NY Times from a review of Mark Robson's Daddy's Gone-A Hunting (19690
' Miss White, who is blond and more than ever reminiscent of Julie Christie when seen in "Petulia's" San Francisco locations'
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 393 | November 20, 2022 1:37 AM |
^ I'm no fan of Christie but that battle-axe face reminds me of Princess Fergie.
| by Anonymous | reply 394 | November 20, 2022 1:50 AM |
[quote] She was saying race alone didn't make you a deserving nominee. Again, horribly tone deaf.
Rampling lives in Paris. She can't be branded as "tone deaf" when she listens to Parisians and can't hear people on the other side of the planet.
She has more pressing issues.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 395 | November 21, 2022 12:03 AM |
Ramples looks like a death's head in this interview.
Her deathliness is made explicit in contrast. Her dead face and long experience of playing passive, somnolent women for half a century barely has the energy to vary her vocal expression or even raise her eyelids to look at her interlocutor.
Rosselllini with her wondrously-expressive face, her mother's instant smiles and constant engagement. She knows how to communicate even when she's not speaking.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 396 | November 24, 2022 11:00 PM |
I remember as a kid my parents went to the movie theater and saw 'Shampoo' and my Mom saying my dad thought Julie Christie was attractive.
| by Anonymous | reply 397 | November 24, 2022 11:02 PM |
The difference in tastes between Julie’s and Charlotte’s fans is that fans of the former actually have some. Rampling has always been a cold fish in her pretentious art house twaddle. And her racist comments about black actors are unforgivable. Team Spike r129. My favorite Julie performance next to Darling is in Alan Rudolph’s Afterglow. She was gorgeous and gave a very subtle performance instead of turning on the histrionics like that Streep creature. Julie didn’t make many films, like Audrey Hepburn, but usually made an impression in whatever she was cast in.
R132 Dench can only act with her eyebrows and nostrils. Another overrated Brit thespian.
| by Anonymous | reply 398 | November 29, 2022 6:00 PM |
[quote] Dench has always been repulsive - something off about and the Harvey allegations 'I didn't know' bullshit confirmed my suspicions about her.
When did you first suspect her? 1963?
1973? 1983? 1993?
| by Anonymous | reply 399 | November 29, 2022 9:36 PM |
R399, that Dench bitch knew Weinstein would be a predator when he was still in his mother's womb--and yet she went on to work with him!
| by Anonymous | reply 400 | November 29, 2022 9:49 PM |
[quote] I remember as a kid my parents went to the movie theater and saw 'Shampoo' and my Mom saying my dad thought Julie Christie was attractive.
You remembered it because your Dad complained to your Mom, 'why can't you suck cock like Julie Christie does?'.
| by Anonymous | reply 401 | April 11, 2023 4:29 AM |
Rampling is so hard looking. And remote onscreen.
| by Anonymous | reply 402 | April 12, 2023 7:11 PM |
R374 Vincet Canby was not a nobody critic any more than the NY Times was an unknown publication.
| by Anonymous | reply 404 | July 12, 2023 4:03 AM |
R374 Vincent Canby (July 27, 1924 – October 15, 2000) was an American film and theatre critic who served as the chief film critic for The New York Times from 1969 until the early 1990s, then its chief theatre critic from 1994 until his death in 2000. He reviewed more than one thousand films during his tenure there. S
| by Anonymous | reply 405 | July 12, 2023 4:06 AM |
[Quote] And you think your argument at [R373] was persuasive to me, [R382]? Because it wasn't. Not that I feel the need to convince you because I don't care, but I found "Shampoo" to be a smart and biting satire of Nixon-era politics
politics is hardly on anyone's mind here save for Nixon on TV in the background. Would it be any different if it was set during Clinton's administration?
| by Anonymous | reply 406 | July 16, 2023 8:43 PM |
In general, I prefer Christie and she's far more beautiful but Rampling has had her moments. She's got a great look, beyond simply being beautiful. She always looks haunted to me.
Shampoo was a wonderful film, it was socio-political commentary and it could not have been made in the same way during the Clinton years. Nixon was Nixon, Vietnam was Vietnam and Watergate was Watergate. These are non-transferable. Similarities will always exist in political films but their significance doesn't translate.
The long way of saying, "I guess you had to have been there."
| by Anonymous | reply 407 | July 16, 2023 8:53 PM |
but Nixon, Vietnam and Watergate have nothing to do with Shampoo!
| by Anonymous | reply 408 | July 16, 2023 8:58 PM |
R408, Nixon, Vietnam and Watergate have EVERYTHING to do with Shampoo.
As I said, you had to have been there to understand how the film played in context. It's a scathing commentary on America and American political life at the time.
| by Anonymous | reply 409 | July 16, 2023 9:03 PM |
How so? R409 And were you there? Except for the hair and clothing styles the characters in the film and the situations could have existed at any time.
| by Anonymous | reply 410 | July 16, 2023 9:10 PM |
Yes I was there, I'm old.
Shampoo was about the end of our 60's innocence in America. It was an end that was brought about by Nixon, Vietnam and Watergate, not a random nor a transferable set of circumstances.
That innocence was a distant memory by the time we got to the Clinton years in the 90's. Your analogy is just off, hon. I see the bits and pieces you're trying to take it from but it simply doesn't hold up and bears no relation to what the film was actually about.
| by Anonymous | reply 411 | July 16, 2023 9:22 PM |
I wasn't there during the DepressionR411 and yet understand how the characters are products of their era in A Place in the Sun but don't see that in Sham Poo and your circular reasoning explains nothing!
| by Anonymous | reply 412 | July 16, 2023 9:30 PM |
In the looks department definitely Charlotte! Acting wise - Julie hands down! As far as romantic preferences go I would go for Jarre over Beatty in a heartbeat!
| by Anonymous | reply 413 | July 16, 2023 9:32 PM |
Okay, R412, go to the Google machine and read some decent film criticism of "Shampoo." Perhaps you'll come to understand what the film was actually about and why it is definitely and specifically a product of the 70's. It will also explain why it doesn't simply transfer to the 90's Clinton era nor any other era we have experienced.
Or don't and be a dumb fuck blathering on about a bad analogy you desperately believe in. *shrug* It's fine by me, I was trying to help you seem less stupid but you do you, hon.
| by Anonymous | reply 414 | July 16, 2023 9:41 PM |
R414 but you come across as merely parroting what you read to give significance to a shallow film about a Beverly Hills' hairdresser and his amorous clients.
| by Anonymous | reply 415 | July 16, 2023 9:51 PM |
I haven't read anything, like you I'm just opining on the Datalounge. I simply know more about the era and the film because I was there. I therefore understand it in a way that people with less experience of that time can't and don't.
But again, you do you, hon. It's not a crime for you to wallow in ignorance and put it on display for everyone to see, people do it all the time. Since you are obstinate and dull, you don't read anything, don't learn anything and don't listen to anyone who actually knows what they're talking about our conversation has reached its end.
Enjoy the DL Illiterates Lounge. You'll have lots of company I'm sure.
| by Anonymous | reply 416 | July 16, 2023 10:03 PM |
Insults are never persuasive in discourse R416 and indicate your inability to accept that not everyone agrees with you. Is that a sign of the era you were brought up in?
| by Anonymous | reply 417 | July 16, 2023 10:18 PM |
[quote]Julie Christie vs. Charlottle Rampling
Will there be Jell-O wrestling?
| by Anonymous | reply 418 | July 16, 2023 10:20 PM |
[Quote] But again, you do you, hon. It's not a crime for you to wallow in ignorance and put it on display for everyone to see, people do it all the time. Since you are obstinate and dull, you don't read anything, don't learn anything and don't listen to anyone who actually knows what they're talking about our conversation has reached its end.
[Quote] Enjoy the DL Illiterates Lounge. You'll have lots of company I'm sure.
Sure is nice of you gramps to take time from your busy schedule to school your inferiors on DL. Though I wonder what you're doing here.
| by Anonymous | reply 419 | July 17, 2023 1:33 AM |
[Quote]Okay, [R412], go to the Google machine and read some decent film criticism of "Shampoo." Perhaps you'll come to understand what the film was actually about and why it is definitely and specifically a product of the 70's. It will also explain why it doesn't simply transfer to the 90's Clinton era nor any other era we have experienced.
[Quote]Or don't and be a dumb fuck blathering on about a bad analogy you desperately believe in. *shrug* It's fine by me, I was trying to help you seem less stupid but you do you, hon.
Roger Ebert gave Shampoo a 2.5 rating out of 4 and he was there. After all he penned the screenplay for 1970s Beyond the Valley of the Dolls
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 420 | July 17, 2023 2:31 AM |
[Quote] go to the Google machine and read some decent film criticism of "Shampoo."
and for a little Variety
Variety All the excellent creative components do not add up to a whole. There are, however, strong elements in the film. Warden’s performance is outstanding. He makes the most of a script and direction which gives his character much more dimension than the prototype cuckold.
| by Anonymous | reply 421 | July 17, 2023 2:45 AM |
Another POV
Made in 1975, less than a year after [Richard] Nixon’s resignation (August 1974) over the Watergate scandal, the film suggests parallels between Nixon’s hypocrisy and cheating and similar devices among the average Americans... The TV set is on most of the time, but no one has time to really watch, reducing the screen to a constant blur of images and sounds... The film suggests that Americans have become slaves to their private and sexual lives at the expense of getting involved emotionally or politically. No character talks about or understands politics. Shampoo is about whoring in sex and in politics, and the price of doing it.
| by Anonymous | reply 422 | July 17, 2023 6:00 AM |
I remember Rampling from the 70s in Zardoz, The Damned, Farewell My Lovely and The Night Porter
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 423 | July 17, 2023 8:44 AM |
