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Everything Everywhere All At Once

Writer Christopher Lucas

I just watched it on Showtime.

Awful, awful, awful movie.

Tries way too hard to be funny/quirky.

Frenetic, confusing, silly, and ridiculous.

It seriously makes me question the judgment of the Academy, in nominating all three leads for an Oscar.

Which will put this movie in the same league as all the other movies and actors who have won Oscars in the past two decades.

Over rated. Undeserving. And quickly forgotten.

Watch this movie if you haven't, and then you'll understand.

by Anonymousreply 399March 16, 2023 9:56 PM

Did JLC molest you when you fell out of your mother's rotting cunt?

by Anonymousreply 1February 20, 2023 9:42 PM

I have all I can do to cope with one thing here at the moment.

by Anonymousreply 2February 20, 2023 9:42 PM

After the first hour, I had to stop watching because the movie made me angry.

It was so stupid and convoluted, that it actually made me angry.

by Anonymousreply 3February 20, 2023 9:44 PM

Sounds like an Ari Aster film (barf!)

by Anonymousreply 4February 20, 2023 9:44 PM

So sorry for your loss. Poor victim OP. Take a tranquilizer.

by Anonymousreply 5February 20, 2023 9:45 PM

It's just as horrible as an Ari Aster film, only in a different way.

by Anonymousreply 6February 20, 2023 9:46 PM

Here's something more to my liking and delicate sensibilities.

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by Anonymousreply 7February 20, 2023 9:48 PM

It's creative science fiction/fantasy. We need more movies like that so I'm glad it was made. I don't give a shit about awards.

by Anonymousreply 8February 20, 2023 9:49 PM

It's fun how people have different opinions, right? Especially on movies. So subjective.

by Anonymousreply 9February 20, 2023 9:49 PM

I see the old Klan Granny Academy voters here on Datalounge, have their cotton panties in a twist.

They hate being called out for their horrible taste in movies.

by Anonymousreply 10February 20, 2023 9:50 PM

I strongly urge anyone who hasn't seen this movie, to actually see this movie.

You will come back here and agree with the op 100%.

The movie is unwatchable.

by Anonymousreply 11February 20, 2023 9:51 PM

Admit it OP , you would say it is a masterpiece if it had all white cast

by Anonymousreply 12February 20, 2023 9:52 PM

That must be why it's been nominated for so many awards.

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by Anonymousreply 13February 20, 2023 9:53 PM

I hope it goes home empty-handed.

by Anonymousreply 14February 20, 2023 9:54 PM

It's already won at the box office.

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by Anonymousreply 15February 20, 2023 9:57 PM

R14 Huy Quan is a big favorite at the moment to win supporting actor so I'd say it wont go empty handed.

by Anonymousreply 16February 20, 2023 9:58 PM

Which is ridiculous, because he didn't do a thing in that film to warrant an award. Neither did any of them, and Jamie Lee Curtis ought to be battling Margot Robbie for a Supporting Razzie this year rather than be up for an Oscar, she was so fucking awful.

by Anonymousreply 18February 20, 2023 10:01 PM

Fuck off r17...you racist piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 19February 20, 2023 10:02 PM

It was fine. Nothing more, nothing less.

And If say the same for Tar

by Anonymousreply 20February 20, 2023 10:02 PM

R17 woke nonsense? Ok now I know you are one of those kind of people. When someone needs to use that I know they are a fucking moron.

by Anonymousreply 21February 20, 2023 10:02 PM

According to right wingers, anything is “woke” if it features any minority characters

by Anonymousreply 22February 20, 2023 10:10 PM

Most people don't hate this film because the leads are Asian. Most people who hate it do so because it's terrible.

by Anonymousreply 23February 20, 2023 10:12 PM

R23 absolutely fucking weird take

by Anonymousreply 24February 20, 2023 10:18 PM

I agree that it was fine. Not sure why everyone loved it so much. I’m just not into butt plug and hot dog finger humor. But to each their own. Kerry Condon gave the best female performance of the year and it makes me sad she won’t get an Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 25February 20, 2023 10:24 PM

[quote] absolutely fucking weird take

Why, because it doesn't agree with you needing to make it about racism?

by Anonymousreply 27February 20, 2023 10:27 PM

And how did she manage that, r17?

by Anonymousreply 28February 20, 2023 10:27 PM

I hated it, too, OP. The first 20 mins is full on corny. It’s a crap fest. I can’t believe anyone truly liked it.

by Anonymousreply 29February 20, 2023 10:32 PM

Haven't seen it OP but The Artist, 12 Years a Slave, Million Dollar Baby, The Departed, The Shape of Water and Chicago are some of this century's Best Picture winners that were to mind over rated, unmemorable and unoriginal.

by Anonymousreply 30February 20, 2023 10:35 PM

R27 no because you are making sweeping and unfounded generalizations to prove your point. I never even mentioned racism but you are on that point pretty quick.

by Anonymousreply 31February 20, 2023 10:36 PM

Anyone defending this movie, hasn't seen it.

Watch the movie, then get back to us.

You'll hate it too.

by Anonymousreply 32February 20, 2023 10:36 PM

I agree OP. It had a few good moments, but it's a mess of a movie and felt like it was written by a 10 year old boy who thinks men fighting with butt plugs hanging out of their asses is the height of hilarity.

by Anonymousreply 33February 20, 2023 10:38 PM

Unlike the olden days, if you now find yourself in the minority opinion on a movie or TV show, there is immediate access to dozens of reviews and thinkpiece articles that explain what it is that you missed. An intellectually curious person might seek those out.

It's totally ok to dislike any film. I wish more people would stop watching movies if they aren't entertained and the subject matter or style isn't for them. It's another to project that dislike on to the film itself and use words like terrible or awful over and over.

The things I liked about this movie are actually what was probably a massive turnoff for some of the people here. It's good that movies are made that befuddle old people--it shows the medium is growing and advancing. But in this case, people who don't like it are probably the same people who hate shows like Arrested Development (its a very obtuse type of comedy that confuses a lot of brains instead of tickling them.)

Anyone here love Arrested Development but hate this movie?

by Anonymousreply 34February 20, 2023 10:39 PM

[quote] The Artist, 12 Years a Slave, Million Dollar Baby, The Departed, The Shape of Water and Chicago are some of this century's Best Picture winners that were to mind over rated, unmemorable and unoriginal.

I know now with absolute certainty to disregard anything you have to say about films.

by Anonymousreply 35February 20, 2023 10:44 PM

[quote] But in this case, people who don't like it are probably the same people who hate shows like Arrested Development (its a very obtuse type of comedy that confuses a lot of brains instead of tickling them.)

You hit on something very key R34, in regards to my reaction to this movie.

After an hour, I literally could not stand to watch it anymore.

It was crazy, frantic, confusing, and annoying all at the same time.

The movie was just TOO MUCH.

So much so, that I found myself actually angry and aggravated after that one hour.

I cannot explain it, but it literally made me hate this movie.

Interestingly, I have never had this type of reaction to a movie before.

by Anonymousreply 36February 20, 2023 10:48 PM

Meh. I disagree with OP.

I thought the movie was brilliant.

Simple message at its core, but cleverly told.

All performances were great, especially from Yeoh, Quan and Hsu, and deserved their acting nominations.

by Anonymousreply 37February 20, 2023 10:54 PM

A film for simpletons. No wonder it was so popular.

by Anonymousreply 38February 20, 2023 11:07 PM

I hope Michelle Yeoh gets best actress. Long overdue, and we won't have to bear another insufferable speech from Cate Blanchett, for what is a completely undeserved third oscar.

Though this has always been Danielle Deadwyler's oscar. And whoever wins should note that two black actresses were screwed out of nominations so their win has a tinge of bias to it.

by Anonymousreply 39February 20, 2023 11:11 PM

R39 Can’t wait for Cate’s win! No one saw Til, Nichelle was average at best. !

by Anonymousreply 40February 21, 2023 12:37 AM

You're right, R22, you just left out the part where, according to left-wingers, anyone who doesn't like a movie featuring minority actors is racist. Both takes are monumentally stupid.

by Anonymousreply 41February 21, 2023 1:52 AM

Can anyone here make a case for Ke Huy Quan to win the Oscar?

Because I can't think of one, given this performance.

It was campy, at best.

by Anonymousreply 42February 21, 2023 3:12 AM

Not even a nomination, R42

by Anonymousreply 43February 21, 2023 3:13 AM

It is an awful movie. Juvenile bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 44February 21, 2023 3:19 AM

R39 If we’re rewarding based on performances, Cate blows everyone else out of the water. Deadwyler was good but it wasn’t the goddamn revelation everyone is making it out to be. Had a white chick given that performance, there would be much less ruckus over her being “snubbed” - see Sidney Flannigan in Never Rarely Sometimes Always last year.

by Anonymousreply 45February 21, 2023 3:20 AM

[quote] Frenetic, confusing, silly, and ridiculous.

Don't ever introduce OP to Fellini.

by Anonymousreply 46February 21, 2023 3:22 AM

I tried. I made it 2/3 into the movie, then shut it off - and haven't cared about the ending.

by Anonymousreply 47February 21, 2023 3:23 AM

[quote] to bear another insufferable speech from Cate Blanchett, f

Yes. Enough from her. Even her face is tiresome.

by Anonymousreply 48February 21, 2023 3:23 AM

No way will it win Best Picture because the voters who don’t like it REALLY don’t like it and will place it tenth on a preferential ballot.

by Anonymousreply 49February 21, 2023 3:29 AM

[quote] The movie is unwatchable.

EEAAO is my favorite movie of 2022. I hope it wins everything.

by Anonymousreply 50February 21, 2023 3:29 AM

R39 Thank you for your response, Whoopi. Sorry your ten-year passion project you co-produced was completely shut out of the Oscars, but....let's face it: it really wasn't a great movie. Now get over it !

by Anonymousreply 52February 21, 2023 4:33 PM

R39, how would Michelle Yeoh's win be overdue? You aren't automatically afforded an acting trophy simply because you've been in the business for 30+ years. Yeoh has hardly been overlooked. She's not a bad actress, but let's not pretend she's been giving egregiously overlooked performances all this time.

And while Blanchett did not deserve her Oscar for The Aviator (which many saw as a make up Oscar for her losing to Paltrow in 98), her performances in Blue Jasmine and this year's Tar were undeniably worthy. IF she loses this year, it will not be because anyone was better than her, it will be for optics only (either the voters saying Fuck You to the Academy for how they treated Andrea Riseborough or a politically correct Oscar for Yeoh).

by Anonymousreply 53February 21, 2023 4:57 PM

Michelle Yeoh and Sheryl Lee Ralph need to go back into that abyss of oblivion where they both were living up until 2022. They are both suffering from undeserved self-importance as well as overexposure.

by Anonymousreply 54February 21, 2023 5:06 PM

Loved it. Hope it sweeps.

by Anonymousreply 55February 21, 2023 5:07 PM

I've never seen Michelle Yeoh give off a self-important air.

by Anonymousreply 56February 21, 2023 5:25 PM

I ached to leave the theater to get away from Everything Everywhere. I shot deeply pleading glances at my cousin, who had suggested we see it (I’d never heard of it), but she either didn’t pick them up or liked it or wanted to get her money’s worth.

Sitting there was like watching someone scream and caper about the room, writhing. while turning up a blender full of gravel to 11. I found it all but unendurable and would not have nominated it or anyone involved in it for anything.

I find Michelle Yeoh a deeply appealing person and I’m sorry she was associated with it.

I tried to watch Tár at home but kept finding that my attention had wandered despite my mild interest in seeing how the over-achieving upper crust are imagined to live.

I may be one of those befuddled elders we hear so much about.

by Anonymousreply 57February 21, 2023 5:40 PM

It's a movie that proves just how corrosive the oversaturation of Marvel movies have been to cinema. For so many of the people who love it, it's the equivalent of eating at Olive Garden after a steady diet of McDonald's and Burger King. Comic book movies have made audiences accustomed to so much stupidity that a movie that employs the same tropes in service of ordinary characters instead of superheroes feels like a vast improvement.

Really, it's the same old shit, with the dubious addition of some really juvenile humor that you'd expect from the dorks whose first movie was about a farting corpse.

by Anonymousreply 58February 21, 2023 6:09 PM

[quote]I may be one of those befuddled elders we hear so much about.

May be?

by Anonymousreply 59February 21, 2023 6:15 PM

I hated it, too, for all the reasons everyone up thread has pointed out. Plus, it was just visually ugly. The color palate, the frame compositions... it was a visually incoherent mess.

My naturopath, who is Asian, said that the mother-daughter dynamic strongly resonated for her and she found herself tearing up, so I'll give the film that much.

by Anonymousreply 60February 21, 2023 6:26 PM

[quote] Really, it's the same old shit, with the dubious addition of some really juvenile humor that you'd expect from the dorks whose first movie was about a farting corpse.

THIS.

by Anonymousreply 61February 21, 2023 6:39 PM

[quote]I find Michelle Yeoh a deeply appealing person and I’m sorry she was associated with it.

Geee the most successful picture released by A24 releasing. The most nominated film for Oscars this year, 6 Golden Globe nominations winning Best Actress and Supporting Actor, 10 BAFTA nominations, 5 SAG nominations and many more awards but you're sorry Yeoh is involved. Bet she's not.

by Anonymousreply 62February 21, 2023 6:57 PM

I really enjoyed the movie. A bit too much of the martial arts maybe but it was ridiculous and fun. My whole group laughed uproariously at the hot dog fingers part. I thought Michelle Yeoh was great and deserved her award. Ke Huy Kwan played a fun character, very sweet and charming. It's debatable whether the performance was Oscar worthy but I'm OK with his nomination. He turned up on Steven Colbert right after I saw the movie and he was a real sweetheart. Humble and grateful.

Midway I recognized the IRS agent as Jamie Lee. I thought she was great, too.

The film captured the overwhelming confusions of modern life as well as the bittersweet connections of family ties. I can relate because I'm in the midst of doing taxes and am plagued with many of the mundane responsibilities that we all face. My parents are gone now but the elderly father situation spoke to me. The film was a fun, creative break for me. Very wacky and imaginative. Thumbs up!

by Anonymousreply 63February 21, 2023 7:25 PM

I hated the film for the same reasons R36 mentioned. However, I loved Arrested Development.

Barry Keogh deserves the Supporting Actor Oscar for his heartbreaking performance in Banshees. Kwan was charming and funny, but that performance wasn't in the same class.

by Anonymousreply 65February 21, 2023 7:34 PM

R56 Lucky you! That means you haven't seen Michelle Yeoh at any Awards show or interviews in the past two months. I haven't been as lucky.

by Anonymousreply 66February 21, 2023 8:57 PM

There is indeed a haughtiness and arrogance about Yeoh which isn’t attractive but someone must have got to her because she’s toned it down considerably.

by Anonymousreply 67February 21, 2023 9:17 PM

I hated every second of it.

by Anonymousreply 68February 21, 2023 9:37 PM

R46, no. Fellini would have been disgusted by the cgi alone. The story is basic.

by Anonymousreply 69February 21, 2023 10:17 PM

It was an interesting movie that was a little sluggish at times but overall it held my attention. I could see a lot of my sister and her daughter’s relationship being played out.

The Michelle Yeoh and Ke Huy Quan acting nominations were well deserved, but Jaime Lee Curtis is a head scratcher. She, by far, was the movie’s weakest link. She pretty much played the part the same as she plays every role she’s in, which is bland. I got a kick out of the hot dog hands universe, but it still wasn’t enough to elevate Curtis to a point where I could say she deserves an award.

by Anonymousreply 70February 21, 2023 10:18 PM

Funny for all the hate Viola, Jamie Lee and Sheryl get for being pretentious, yet Cate's smug "I'm better than you and this is beneath me" posturing every time she wins (Because she shows up for every awards show) is somehow supposed to be endearing. I was done with her after she came for Sandra Bullock at the oscars, which was mean spirited and in very poor taste.

She's the insufferable art student snob who will go out of their way to tell you how she's slumming it, but will also kiss the ass of anyone who can do something to boost her career.

by Anonymousreply 71February 21, 2023 10:37 PM

Yeoh isn’t an actress, she’s a stunt girl who got lucky.

by Anonymousreply 72February 21, 2023 10:46 PM

R71 Has to be a frau. No gay man would be upset on the behalf of someone being mean to poor Sandra Bullock (?!)

by Anonymousreply 73February 21, 2023 10:59 PM

Last year a co-worker raved about this movie and told me I had to go to the movie theater to see it. I silently cursed him for the entire 2 hours and 19 minutes.

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by Anonymousreply 74February 22, 2023 12:26 AM

How many times are you going to say the same thing.

by Anonymousreply 75February 22, 2023 12:27 AM

R58 has made the definitive post of the thread. Shut it down.

by Anonymousreply 76February 22, 2023 7:02 AM

Is R63 parody? If it is, it's excellent. If it isn't, we can't be friends.

For the record, I love Arrested Development, find Cate Blanchett insufferable (if talented), and disliked Tar.

People amused by the hot dogs fingers, though? I will laugh at dumb shit on the internet all day but that barely raised a grin. That's the kind of thing a 6 year old would find uproarious.

by Anonymousreply 77February 22, 2023 7:12 AM

[quote] Yeoh isn’t an actress, she’s a stunt girl who got lucky.

Exactly.

Why the media is hyping her so much, and trying to make her "happen" this year, is a complete mystery.

by Anonymousreply 78February 22, 2023 10:45 AM

I lasted 10 mins. Hated the “movie.”

by Anonymousreply 79February 22, 2023 3:56 PM

Waah, waah, waah! Why can't we have more movies starring American Patriot Ronald Reagan?

by Anonymousreply 80February 22, 2023 5:47 PM

Take the worst joke in Everything Everywhere -- and that's a tough choice among some stiff competition -- and it's still funnier than the moronic post at R80.

by Anonymousreply 81February 22, 2023 5:53 PM

Take the most crybaby troll post on this thread -- and that's a tough choice among some stiff competition -- and it's still cuntier than the moronic post at [R81].

by Anonymousreply 82February 22, 2023 5:59 PM

JLC has the actual, real cunt I WISH I had.

by Anonymousreply 83February 22, 2023 6:05 PM

It's ok OP, you still have your asshole.

by Anonymousreply 84February 22, 2023 6:05 PM

The only explanation for the past few posts is that R84 consumed everything from his liquor cabinet all at once.

by Anonymousreply 85February 22, 2023 6:17 PM

R85 Trolling Every thread, Everywhere, All at once.

by Anonymousreply 86February 22, 2023 6:19 PM

Jamie Lee Curtis is a nepo baby and is drinking again and is Meghan Markle and is...is...is...is

by Anonymousreply 87February 22, 2023 6:21 PM

I loved it. Best movie I've seen in a long while. I think the people who are hating it are demonstrating a generational divide. That's fine. They're used to stories being told slower and more deliberately. But this one speaks to the hyper-plugged-in youth of today. It's also a bravura piece of genre-blending. It's a sci-fi/action/family drama/immigrant story/comedy/romance, and it does all of those pieces amazingly well.

I urge OP to give us examples of movies she finds "watchable." Or even "good."

by Anonymousreply 88February 22, 2023 6:33 PM

I'm not OP but I really disliked this movie and I'm a Millennial (granted, I'm an elder Millennial). I enjoy a fast-paced movie but this one had zero substance. I'm sorry, this was objectively a bad movie.

by Anonymousreply 89February 22, 2023 6:44 PM

If something is an opinion ("this is a bad movie") then it is not objective.

by Anonymousreply 90February 22, 2023 6:46 PM

r36 While I loved the film, I can totally see how it is too much for a lot of people. Babylon gets a similar reaction by many but what's on screen is what you get. With Everything, the idea presents all these different universes and through frenetic camerawork and editing, its packing so much information in that it can just become disorienting and chaotic. It's not for everyone.

It says nothing about a viewer's age or sophistication just because they can't tolerate it. But you'll see so many people just dumping on it without any capacity to articulate why.

The directors had one of the first billion views music videos on youtube. There's funny wild ideas throughout.

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by Anonymousreply 91February 22, 2023 8:27 PM

I didn't like Everything Everywhere, R91, but I really appreciate your defense of the movie.

I actually did like the movie the first time I saw it. The frenetic pacing didn't bother me, and I was entertained because I didn't know where the story was going, and was willing to take the plunge with the filmmakers. The second time, though, the pacing grated on me because I knew the contours of the film; now that I knew where the film was going, I felt that the filmmakers actually didn't. They were just throwing things at the screen to get a laugh, and without the element of surprise, a lot of the random jokes fell really flat.

I think the fundamental disconnect between those who love the film and those who hate it is that the fans appreciate the frenetic pace because they think there's a lot to unpack, whereas those who dislike it think the pacing is meant to cover up the fact that there just isn't much there.

by Anonymousreply 92February 22, 2023 9:19 PM

I enjoyed Babylon while also realizing it was overstuffed, so to say. But EEAAO should really not be compared to it. That one is a totally frenetic, frenzied sloppy mess of a movie. Babylon is exquisitely precise and calculating in every scene.

by Anonymousreply 93February 22, 2023 9:44 PM

[quote] I loved it. Best movie I've seen in a long while. I think the people who are hating it are demonstrating a generational divide. That's fine. They're used to stories being told slower and more deliberately. But this one speaks to the hyper-plugged-in youth of today. It's also a bravura piece of genre-blending. It's a sci-fi/action/family drama/immigrant story/comedy/romance, and it does all of those pieces amazingly well.

That's likely because you were raised at a time where mediocrity in films (in all media, really) was the best anyone could hope for. It's been a good 20 years since the fall of American Cinema, so if you were raised on Marvel and Blumhouse and found footage bullshit, then of course you're going to think this film was amazing. You don't know any better. Your post all but says it. If we put you in front of The Godfather or The Exorcist or Citizen Kane, you'd be checking your texts in under 10 minutes.

by Anonymousreply 94February 22, 2023 10:27 PM

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

by Anonymousreply 95February 22, 2023 10:49 PM

R94 You’re completely right. This whole creaming over shit films and mediocre acting is the result of a generation raised on absolute trash surrounding them at all times. There’s always been fluff or throwaway movies, but on the other end of the spectrum … films like The Godfather were massive box office hits that were the national conversation for months. Today, people would complain about it being a “pretentious arthouse film” with “no likable characters.”

by Anonymousreply 96February 22, 2023 11:04 PM

Of course it's Datalounge. If the Lesbian daughter had been a himbo of the week you queens would be cheering.

by Anonymousreply 97February 22, 2023 11:06 PM

You don't know anything about "people today".

by Anonymousreply 98February 22, 2023 11:07 PM

Why don't they make films like Godfather 3 anymore?

by Anonymousreply 99February 22, 2023 11:10 PM

Because Godfather 3 was ruined by that NEPO BABY.

by Anonymousreply 100February 22, 2023 11:11 PM

When I was five the only thing I cared about a movie was what is what about. I didn't know good from bad. I'm sure I would have liked this or any fantasy or monster movie or Plan 9 from Outer Space. That's Five!

by Anonymousreply 101February 22, 2023 11:16 PM

R35 the feeling is mutual.

by Anonymousreply 103February 22, 2023 11:19 PM

It's all finally clear for me. Francis Ford Coppola was a great filmmaker. Until he casted HIS OWN DAUGHTER in Godfather 3. He wrecked his own film. Soiling his good work that had come before. That means all nepo babies must be destroyed. And the only way to be sure is to stop them in the womb. Abortion must not only be legal, it should be mandatory for anyone who ever accomplished anything. Kill those nepo babies! I'm not just pro-choice, I'm Pro Abortion! Abort, abort, abort for Everyone Everywhere All At Once!

by Anonymousreply 104February 22, 2023 11:51 PM

HELLO!

I'M RETIRING FROM ACTING! REMEMBER?

by Anonymousreply 105February 23, 2023 12:45 AM

Oh dear re: “casted.”

by Anonymousreply 107February 23, 2023 3:15 AM

What other movies are nominated for Best Picture?

by Anonymousreply 108February 23, 2023 5:52 AM

R108 10 films total Besides EEAAO

Maverick Top Gun, The Banshees of Inisherin, Tar, All Quiet on the Western Front, The Fabelmans, Avatar:The Way of Water

PLUS Elvis, Women Talking and Triangle of Sadness which don't have a chance of winning BP

Ten films total and the last 3 I listed don't have a chance IMHO

by Anonymousreply 109February 23, 2023 7:35 AM

I would love to see Maverick Top Gun win Best Picture.

by Anonymousreply 110February 23, 2023 12:11 PM

Yes, there's nothing generational about hating on EEAAO.

It's just that they don't make movies like the Godfather or the Exorcist or Citizen Kane!

I love all three films, and other work by all three directors. The Lady from Shanghai and Chimes at Midnight are great. So is Cruising and the French Connection. I even sort of liked One From the Heart.

Bitter old cunts who hate younger people for being young are so entertaining. And when you die, it's all upside for the world.

So keep being you, you amusing old piece of shit!

by Anonymousreply 111February 23, 2023 7:40 PM

You're clearly missing the point, R111. Not a surprise.

by Anonymousreply 112February 23, 2023 7:51 PM

The love for EEAAO always seems to sound like it comes from fangirls/fanboys or those a tad unhinged. Whoever you are you have shit for taste.

by Anonymousreply 113February 23, 2023 8:17 PM

Maybe the point was vague and poorly made, R112.

by Anonymousreply 114February 23, 2023 8:35 PM

[quote]R32: Anyone defending this movie, hasn't seen it. Watch the movie, then get back to us. You'll hate it too.

Nope, I've seen it four times, and loved it.

I see we're back to the schtick of far right trolls hating on films that contain strong female characters, especially non-white ones, but concealing what their hatred is really about, and instead strafing the thread with a lot of highly subjective, zero-substance criticisms.

I have no interest in engaging with that sock-trollery.

Carry on, y'all. Just know that nobody real agrees with you.

by Anonymousreply 115February 23, 2023 8:57 PM

I just think it's silly so many on here are saying people have shit taste if they liked this movie. Maybe accept that people like different things but it doesn't make their viewpoint worse and movie on? But no, be immature about it all.

by Anonymousreply 116February 23, 2023 9:00 PM

They (and I use 'they' conditionally; it's really one person with multiple socks) have an agenda, to attack films with non-white, female characters.

by Anonymousreply 117February 23, 2023 9:03 PM

Of course, it's ridiculous and unbelievably defensive and childish and petulant to say if one didn't like this tedious movie it was for reasons of misoygny and racism. It's of course an utterly subjective view, one's opinion of a movie. If one goes around and attacks someone's character for merely not liking a movie you love, it goes to show how pathetic you are.

by Anonymousreply 118February 23, 2023 9:03 PM

I saw this film. It was entertaining for awhile, then, it became repetitious. It's certainly not Oscar nod worthy.

by Anonymousreply 120February 23, 2023 9:13 PM

R118, it speaks really poorly of the movie that its most strident defenders have to make up ulterior motives for why people dislike the movie instead of dealing with the actual criticisms people have.

But it just has to be misogyny, because if there's one thing gay men despise, it's strong female characters.

by Anonymousreply 121February 23, 2023 9:25 PM

If the movie had stayed as some kind of wacky dramedy with Michelle Yeoh at the laundromat, I would have seen justification behind her Best Actress nomination. Instead it became a third rate Rick and Morty episode.

by Anonymousreply 122February 23, 2023 9:40 PM

I am seriously startled at how many people like this dreck. It's just one insanely stupid violent scene after another with no particular plot. How does something this bad because something so revered? I am genuinely stumped.

by Anonymousreply 123February 23, 2023 9:42 PM

The only thing I dislike about it at this time is that it would cost me 20 bucks to watch it on Prime. Not gonna pay that.

After the Oscars, I am sure the price will come down.

[quote]It's just one insanely stupid violent scene after another

I often like that in a movie.

by Anonymousreply 124February 23, 2023 9:43 PM

[quote] They (and I use 'they' conditionally; it's really one person with multiple socks) have an agenda, to attack films with non-white, female characters.

You really need to shut the fuck up with you and your victim complex.

You're completely pathetic for trying to excuse a shit movie by attacking others for being "racist and misogynistic."

You're a stupid fucking asshole.

by Anonymousreply 125February 23, 2023 10:39 PM

Me too, r123.

I have no agenda. One of my fave movies was The Color Purple. I was it in the theater back in the day & was one of the only white people there.

But this? It was junk. Like a Saturday morning cartoon…hyper jump cuts. It was all over the place.

And worst of all? It was cheesy. Goofy.

OF COURSE the Asian family owned a laundry mat. OF COURSE the Asian mom was fixated on working all he time. OF COURSE her daughter was “queer.” OF COURSE the grandpa is homophobic.

People are saying how creative the movie was when it, quite ironically, the characters were boring stereotypes.

It’s just CGI vomit…everywhere all at once. 🤮

by Anonymousreply 126February 23, 2023 10:50 PM

* I saw The Color Purple in the theater when it first came out …1984 I think. Or 1985…

by Anonymousreply 127February 23, 2023 10:51 PM

An excerpt from a review of EEAAO:

"It’s as embarrassing to say it as it is to watch onscreen: she says that she 'put everything on a bagel,' and she means not the flavor but the universe itself—therefore 'the bagel becomes the truth,' and the truth is that 'nothing matters.' (Yes, she both wears a symbolic bagel on her head and emblazons a giant rotating one at the altar of her lair.)"

As much as I enjoy the actual bagel seasoning, this might be one of the most stupid, cringe inducing scenes ever shown in a movie. And I love a dumb movie; I just re-watched Gymkata and had a fun time laughing at it.

EEAAO is the worst kind of bad movie because it thinks it's a great movie and Jamie Lee and MICHELLE YEOH really want us to believe it. I genuinely wanted the kid from the Goonies to have a hit movie but the whole thing is just one big embarrassment. This movie will quickly be forgotten---people will not be viewing it and discussing 20 years from now---but I do hope it leads to better movies in the future for all the actors involved (and for us as viewers).

by Anonymousreply 128February 23, 2023 11:05 PM

You all should meet at a nice fern bar with lots of brass accents and sip sazerac slings and talk about how no one appreciates good movies like the Exorcist anymore and you can't believe kids today like DRECK like "Everything Everywhere."

It will make you all feel so much better.

by Anonymousreply 129February 23, 2023 11:19 PM

[quote] EEAAO is the worst kind of bad movie because it thinks it's a great movie and Jamie Lee and MICHELLE YEOH really want us to believe it. I genuinely wanted the kid from the Goonies to have a hit movie but the whole thing is just one big embarrassment. This movie will quickly be forgotten---people will not be viewing it and discussing 20 years from now---but I do hope it leads to better movies in the future for all the actors involved (and for us as viewers).

BINGO!

by Anonymousreply 130February 23, 2023 11:31 PM

Terrible movie. The whole movie was stupid.

by Anonymousreply 131February 24, 2023 11:05 PM

I’m looking forward to reading what those anonymous Oscar ballot voters in the Hollywood Reporter say about EEAAO. I have a feeling at least one or two loathe it and will place it tenth.

by Anonymousreply 132February 25, 2023 12:40 AM

It getting 15 Oscar noms is on par with Trump getting nominated for repub pres candidate. Ifs like, “how the hell did THAT happen? No way he can win.”

I know there were shenanigans propelling Trump. I feel like there has got to be some BS going on propelling this bucket of CGI vomit.

Hype & propaganda go a long way.

by Anonymousreply 133February 25, 2023 12:55 AM

I adore Michelle Yeoh. Loved her on Star Trek Discovery and of course, Crouching Tiger. I watched this movie because she was in it.

I still thought it was trash.

by Anonymousreply 134February 25, 2023 1:19 AM

But Cocaine Bear is a masterpiece.

by Anonymousreply 135February 25, 2023 1:20 AM

No, R135, it's that this movie sucked.

by Anonymousreply 136February 25, 2023 3:12 AM

I'm a fan of Michelle Yeoh (not sure if she's a great actress, but she has a great, commanding screen presence), and I went into this movie wanting very much to like it, if not love it.

The OP used the word "frenetic", and that was the first thing I noticed about it. Even in the first 5-10 minutes, before any of the surreal sci-fi shenanigans kicked in, it felt very manic in the way the relatively simple first scenes were staged. I found that a little off-putting.

When all the "WTF?" stuff kicked in, I had a better understanding of what they were going for, but I didn't think it worked particularly well. The tone of the whole thing was off...like they were trying to blend too many wildly different film genres into one. As much as I appreciate the ambition, I can't say I'm a fan of how it was executed.

It actually took me about a week and a half to finish the thing. I could only take it in small portions. There were parts of it I really did enjoy, but overall I found it a bit of a chore to watch.

And I don't think a single performance in it was worthy of an Oscar nom.

by Anonymousreply 137February 25, 2023 3:59 AM

[quote] I feel like there has got to be some BS going on propelling this bucket of CGI vomit.

Same here.

That this movie received so many nominations is not only mind-boggling, but also a travesty.

by Anonymousreply 138February 25, 2023 10:59 AM

This movie is this year's "see, we're not racist!" token nominee.

See the posters in this thread, if they're not trolls, who appear to be under the genuine impression that there is no explanation besides racism (or being extremely old) for disliking this movie. I'm an elder millennial and I hated it.

by Anonymousreply 139February 26, 2023 12:25 AM

"This movie is this year's "see, we're not racist!" token nominee."

Insufferable.

by Anonymousreply 140February 26, 2023 1:02 AM

[quote] This movie is this year's "see, we're not racist!" token nominee.

Meanwhile, some legitimately good movies were left out of the nominations.

This is why no one takes the Academy Awards seriously.

by Anonymousreply 141February 26, 2023 1:38 AM

Wakanda should have been nominated. I mean, if Avatar & Maverick did…

by Anonymousreply 142February 26, 2023 2:17 AM

I’ve never seen a Marvel - or comic book - movie; and likely never will. Not a fan of American violent movies either.

That said, I loved EEAAO. It was the audacious premise of connecting parallel lives and threads which I found captivating. It reminded me of the originality of the Matrix movie.

I find it Oscar worthy for its innovation: tackling various subjects and stepping outside the all-too-repetitive American genres.

I found Yeoh’s performance superior to Blanchett’s and am/was a Cate fan.

by Anonymousreply 143February 26, 2023 2:44 AM

R143, how did all of the parallel lives connect together?

Did we learn anything about them as people in their parallel lives or their real lives? Anything about them as people beyond surface level movie cliches (hardworking immigrant family running a laundromat trying to make ends meet and navigate standard family frictions).

I came away with no sense of any of them as individual people.

by Anonymousreply 144February 26, 2023 4:08 AM

R144, I’m not going to spend energy going through the whole EEAAO movie for you. Watch it again to see the intersection of all the lives:

Daughter’s antagonism with Mother Explained as Archenemies

Wife reignites marriage via discovery of great Love(s) of Husband

Wife understands issues with IRS antagonist who was both an Enemy and Lover in other existences

It’s multilayered and multifaceted and obtuse viewers completely miss the layers of meaning as “frenetic”; akin to tone-deaf individuals missing tonality. (Or colour blind folks unable to process colour.) It’s a perceptual thing and as always with perception, some are unable to penetrate their own perceptual blinders. (For other examples: see Trump and QAnon et al.) Hence why the film elicits frustration and anger in some viewers: it goes beyond some self-imposed perceptual limits. At some level, people know this and it is triggering.

by Anonymousreply 145February 26, 2023 3:06 PM

[quote]It's all finally clear for me. Francis Ford Coppola was a great filmmaker. Until he casted HIS OWN DAUGHTER in Godfather 3. He wrecked his own film.

C'mon give him a break. It's scary, and chaotic staring a new movie and Winona Ryder who was there dropped out the day before filming began.He panicked and cast Sophia.

by Anonymousreply 146February 26, 2023 3:22 PM

No, R145, but thanks for your condescension. The three things you mentioned, especially the first, are tropes. They're not innovative or interesting in and of themselves. The movie relies non-stop on cheesy special effects gimmicks and unfunny images (like wiener fingers) to move along and pad a movie that has very little story and no substance. How wonderful for you that you enjoyed it, but it's merely your take and it doesn't make anyone who understandably had no patience or interest in this movie either intellectually inferior (especially to you) or tone deaf. Spare us your homily on the merits of this movie.

You seem triggered that people don't have the love for this dumb movie that you have. That's your problem.

by Anonymousreply 148February 26, 2023 3:28 PM

Well then, R148, don’t ask me to explain the movie for you.

Simple.

by Anonymousreply 149February 26, 2023 3:37 PM

I never did ask you, R149. You just wanted to explain your interpretation of it for everyone else, and got butt-hurt when your explanation and the movie were rejected.

Simple.

by Anonymousreply 150February 26, 2023 3:41 PM

[quote]The love for EEAAO always seems to sound like it comes from fangirls/fanboys or those a tad unhinged.

This is the impression I get, too

by Anonymousreply 151February 26, 2023 4:00 PM

Total shit flung on humanity

by Anonymousreply 152February 26, 2023 4:34 PM

It won the PGA last night but won’t win the Best Picture Oscar. It will be The Big Short of 2023.

by Anonymousreply 153February 26, 2023 6:19 PM

[quote]I'm an elder millennial and I hated it.

In other words, you're old.

by Anonymousreply 154February 26, 2023 6:36 PM

Watched it today. Beautiful film!

by Anonymousreply 155February 26, 2023 6:48 PM

Projection is powerful, R144 / R148 / 150.

And I thank you for so clearly demonstrating it via your numerous posts above.

You questioned me directly in your post: R144. I merely responded to your post. I won’t be responding to you further.

You seem triggered and are a great example of what I have described above.

Best wishes.

by Anonymousreply 156February 26, 2023 7:05 PM

R156, I'm not R144. Idiot.

by Anonymousreply 157February 26, 2023 9:38 PM

Shit is shit, no matter what age you see it, R154.

by Anonymousreply 158February 26, 2023 9:40 PM

R156, I am R144 but not R148 or R150. It seems multiple people here disagree with your perspective but perhaps we can just agree to disagree.

by Anonymousreply 159February 26, 2023 11:10 PM

oh lord. We KNOW the film was about her coming to terms with her life's choices and her relationship with her daughter. The film pretty much hits us over the head with that. It's not some new trope. It's been done over and over in other films and much better. In fact, I'd argue that because the two writers were male, that is why this movie about women suffered and was so fucking juvenile, even quite homophobic.

I'm just not a fan of films that have no subtlety. It's part of what is missing in cinema today. All the damn films of today are just in your face, non stop, action shit. Give me a Shawshank Redemption, Contact, or Stand By Me over this stupidity any day.

by Anonymousreply 160February 26, 2023 11:49 PM

A lot of the cultural conversation in the US these days can be described as "aging people can't admit that they're aging and that their tastes aren't it any more."

by Anonymousreply 161February 27, 2023 3:48 PM

R161, what is your favorite movie of all time?

by Anonymousreply 162February 27, 2023 4:20 PM

You think Jamie Lee Curtis' husband will actually go go with her to the biggest night of her career?

by Anonymousreply 163February 27, 2023 4:23 PM

[quote]R162: what is your favorite movie of all time?

And if R161 selects an older film as a favorite, what will that prove? He will simply be someone who's aging with non-current tastes who admits it.

I admit that myself. It doesn't matter, though, concerning EEAAO. I still thought it was a great film.

by Anonymousreply 164February 27, 2023 4:30 PM

R164, I'm just genuinely curious. For those who enjoyed EEAAO, what other movies do you enjoy?

by Anonymousreply 165February 27, 2023 4:40 PM

I enjoy any film that causes the sad, over the top meltdowns that conservatives have over EEAAO. Delish.

by Anonymousreply 166February 27, 2023 4:43 PM

How absurd the notion that if you didn't like some contemporary movie you're old and out of touch or, even more laughably, conservative. This movie was nothing innovative; the script was a mess, and everything seemed to be made up as they went along. Having critical faculties doesn't make someone old.

I couldn't care less how this movie does in awards; so much crap gets awards and then blithers away, forgotten.

The best movie of the year, I think, was the Nan Goldin documentary "All The Beauty and the Bloodshed" by Laura Poitras.

by Anonymousreply 167February 27, 2023 4:46 PM

R143 and R144 are clearly self WWing.

It’s clear your movie is shit when you have to jump through these “conservatives hate it! Racists hate it!” as a last line of defense. Seriously, has this place been infested by twitter trolls? I thought you all were supposed to be gays with taste.

by Anonymousreply 168February 27, 2023 4:49 PM

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

by Anonymousreply 169February 27, 2023 4:50 PM

"I thought you all were all supposed to be gays"

Spoken like a true delusional, selfish, mentally challenged troll trolling DL. Sad.

by Anonymousreply 170February 27, 2023 4:53 PM

Reducing dislike of Everything Everywhere All at Once to "you don't get it because you're old!" is deeply annoying (and calling people who don't like it either racists or conservatives is even worse). You don't have to be an elderly crank who dislikes everything more current than Casablanca to realize that the movie is filled with some really stupid jokes and concepts: the hot dog fingers, the award shaped like a butt plug, the rocks, the everything bagel.

And for a movie that its defenders call hip and current and innovative, I can't think of a cornier '80s sitcom level joke than naming a character Dierdre Beaubierdre. It's indefensible.

by Anonymousreply 171February 27, 2023 4:56 PM

Well, well, look at the angry little turd. Things not going your way in your little troll world?

by Anonymousreply 172February 27, 2023 4:59 PM

We rented it because my college students told me that I "had to see it" etc. etc. and because I am a cheap bitch I watched it all. A silly, pointless, juvenile film. I wonder if the directors hated Michelle Yeoh? But why, she is lovely. I knocked my students down a half point for their final grade as punishment, and watched Last Summer in Marienbad to recover.

by Anonymousreply 173February 27, 2023 4:59 PM

Is that what professional educators do? Punish students for voicing their opinions? Let's guess, "Liberty" University?

by Anonymousreply 174February 27, 2023 5:01 PM

[quote]R173: I knocked my students down a half point for their final grade as punishment, and watched Last Summer in Marienbad to recover.

You're no teacher, but if you were, you'd need to lose your position for doing that.

by Anonymousreply 175February 27, 2023 5:02 PM

Yes, that is exactly what we do, and it's the Ivy League.

by Anonymousreply 176February 27, 2023 5:03 PM

Did you get your "Ivy League" position by being a nepo baby or was it the Ivy couch?

by Anonymousreply 178February 27, 2023 5:08 PM

Michelle Yeoh isn’t winning the Oscar. The SAG Awards ceased being an Oscars bellweather following the union merge when thousands of national and local TV and radio broadcast “talent” were automatically made voters. Of course those idiots will vote for Yeoh. The Academy voters are much more discerning (like the BAFTA voters) and so Cate Blanchett will win.

by Anonymousreply 179February 27, 2023 5:26 PM

[quote] The Academy voters are much more discerning (like the BAFTA voters) and so Cate Blanchett will win.

*crossing my fingers*

I really hope you're right.

In fact, I hope that EEAAO gets completely shut out.

It never should have been nominated for anything, in the first place.

The movie is absolute shit.

by Anonymousreply 180February 27, 2023 5:29 PM

How sad you're so threatened by EEAAO. It's like a mania, a sickness. An obsessive, mental illness.

by Anonymousreply 181February 27, 2023 5:32 PM

Of course it's possible to not like EEAAO for completely valid reasons. But a lot of the cunts on this thread hate it for clearly old-person reasons or clearly racist-person reasons. They're not hard to spot.

I loved it - it was ambitious and complex and a crowd-pleaser but had a brain and assumed the audience could follow a complex storyline and was gross and mawkish and full of love but also delivered the action. It was just so pleasing on so many levels.

But the Academy likes to award quality movies like "Crash" or "Green Book" or "Birdman"!

by Anonymousreply 182February 27, 2023 7:04 PM

[quote] I loved it - it was ambitious and complex and a crowd-pleaser but had a brain and [bold] assumed the audience could follow a complex storyline [/bold]

Not everyone has this capacity. Hence all the juvenile posts with name-calling over a movie, no less.

by Anonymousreply 183February 27, 2023 7:12 PM

[quote] I loved it - it was ambitious and complex and a crowd-pleaser but had a brain and assumed the audience could follow a complex storyline and was gross and mawkish and full of love but also delivered the action.

The movie had a brain, did it, R182? I love it when illiterate idiots who can't even write a coherent sentence weigh in on others in a superior way.

by Anonymousreply 184February 27, 2023 7:13 PM

[quote] Hence all the juvenile posts with name-calling over a movie, no less.

I guess irony is not in the wheelhouse of R183.

by Anonymousreply 185February 27, 2023 7:16 PM

EEAAO is just fine. Didn't love it but liked it enough. Clever, funny, moving, and almost too gonzo for its own good. At least it had some great ideas, was visually and emotionally exciting, and had the balls to take some truly outrageous risks. It's not typical Oscar bait. Not by a long shot. That would be "All Quiet on the Western Front". Although that seemed a rehash of themes from Gallipoli. EEAAO has a certain freshness. There are other multiverse movies but not with this unique vision.

by Anonymousreply 186February 27, 2023 7:19 PM

Hilarious that the DL has been reduced to people who don't agree with you being labeled as "trolls."

Sweetums, this is the real world, not your mommy's house. Grow up and realize that people don't have to like what you like and it doesn't make them "trolls."

by Anonymousreply 187February 27, 2023 9:23 PM

But R187, Gen Zers are experiencing literal violence when all their enthusiasms aren't embraced!

by Anonymousreply 188February 27, 2023 9:27 PM

The trolls push back. With trolling. Sad.

by Anonymousreply 189February 27, 2023 9:29 PM

[quote] I love it when illiterate idiots who can't even write a coherent sentence weigh in on others in a superior way.

I love it when mean cunts weigh in. In real life, you don't meet people who are willing to be so pointlessly hostile over nothing. But they're all over the place on the DL! Keep it up, you cunty dusty pussy!

by Anonymousreply 190February 27, 2023 9:29 PM

Aw, R190, butt-hurt because you can't write a coherent sentence--and then you call others cunts who point out your stupidity? And you think your half-assed opinions matter? HAHAHAHA!!!

Gen Zers are such touchy gashes! They can dish it out but they sure can't take it!

LITERAL VIOLENCE!

by Anonymousreply 191February 27, 2023 9:35 PM

Calm down, take your pills. Everytroll Everythread All at Once is having another meltdown.

by Anonymousreply 192February 27, 2023 9:40 PM

You'd think a humorless cunt like R191 would at least appreciate it when her cuntiness is appreciated!

Can't please some cunts.

by Anonymousreply 193February 27, 2023 9:41 PM

EEAAO is a triumph. This hater's thread is for old white people who can't work their smartphones and computers.

by Anonymousreply 194February 27, 2023 9:42 PM

R194 thinks THIS movie is a triumph! Hunty, you need to get out more. You're not nearly as smart as your smartphone.

by Anonymousreply 195February 27, 2023 9:44 PM

Wiener fingers! Genius!!!

by Anonymousreply 196February 27, 2023 9:46 PM

The trolls were explosively trigger by all the SAG wins last night. They live on public humiliation. When the public embraces something they hate, they lose their minds. As is obvious ^^^.

by Anonymousreply 197February 27, 2023 9:48 PM

R197 has never seen any movie like this! Wiener fingers! A google-eye stuck to the forehead! A triumph!

by Anonymousreply 198February 27, 2023 9:51 PM

I can't wait for Cocaine Bear to sweep the Oscars! Yas Qween!

by Anonymousreply 199February 27, 2023 9:54 PM

An overworked Asian woman who disapproves of her lesbo daughter! SO INNOVATIVE TO ME!

by Anonymousreply 200February 27, 2023 9:56 PM

"An overworked Asian woman who disapproves of her lesbo daughter!" said the homophobic troll. Or is that your "opinion".

by Anonymousreply 201February 27, 2023 9:58 PM

Not surprising that one of the screenwriters was diagnosed with ADHD while working on the movie. It does seem like a methed-out Joy Luck Club.

by Anonymousreply 202February 27, 2023 9:59 PM

R182, if EEAAO wins the Oscar it will generally be thought of as one of the worst winners of all alongside Crash, Birdman and Green Book.

by Anonymousreply 203February 27, 2023 10:01 PM

OP is loser Cate Blanchett.

by Anonymousreply 204February 27, 2023 10:02 PM

R201, who calls others homophobic but says "Yes Qween!"

MARY!!!

by Anonymousreply 205February 27, 2023 10:04 PM

I didn't care for it, and that incredible review from Richard Brody at the New Yorker highlighted all my problems. It was like a Jackie Chan film written by Charlie Kaufman if directed by Richard Donner -- minus the fun, excitement, or intelligence.

Brody was right when he said the movie felt like an audition to do a Marvel franchise.

by Anonymousreply 206February 27, 2023 10:41 PM

[quote] if EEAAO wins the Oscar it will generally be thought of as one of the worst winners of all alongside Crash, Birdman and Green Book.

Exactly!

Another fucking travesty.

by Anonymousreply 207February 27, 2023 10:42 PM

I loved it! I thought it was so fun and poignant.

The Goonies actor stole the movie for me.

I can understand why the movie isn't for everyone. But at least the film makers took risks. Did something a little different. We need more movies like these.

by Anonymousreply 208February 27, 2023 10:52 PM

[quote] It was like a Jackie Chan film written by Charlie Kaufman.

R206, I completely agree with that.

by Anonymousreply 209February 27, 2023 10:56 PM

[quote] it will generally be thought of

"Generally" here is doing a lot of work.

by Anonymousreply 210February 27, 2023 11:00 PM

R206, it actually was written originally for Jackie Chan. He turned it down, and they offered it to her. They dusted off a Jackie Chan vehicle and feminized it. So innovative! So new!

by Anonymousreply 211February 27, 2023 11:03 PM

Figures the children here would think something that's no more than a Jackie Chan retread would be so fresh. Of course it is to them. That's what being young and having no points of reference do. You think something that's old is new because it's new to you.

by Anonymousreply 212February 27, 2023 11:07 PM

Let me put my helmet on first, since I guess I'm going to be called a 'Klan-Granny, Neonazi, Magat, right-wing Republican, Rhonda Santis-loving troll', for expressing my opinion on DL about a movie that I saw.

Well, I watched most of this dreck; but I decided it wasn't worth wasting anymore time on, so I didn't finish it.

I'm not linking to it, but there's a DL thread now about 'maladaptive daydreaming.' I think that might explain what this film was about, or maybe just 'maladaptive moviemaking.'

Incidentally, since the insults on DL are everywhere, all-at-once, all the time now, I suggest we streamline the process of insulting each other by creating a handy reference chart.

by Anonymousreply 213February 27, 2023 11:33 PM

Not sure what you're trying to say, R213.

by Anonymousreply 214February 28, 2023 12:38 AM

The tide seems to be turning against this movie.

The more people watch it, the more they are hating it.

by Anonymousreply 215March 2, 2023 10:19 AM

But the movie is giving Asians a voice in this white-privileged dominated world...and Jamie Lee Curtis the chance at an Oscar.

OP, you're ruining JLC and her very, very thirsty moment in the spotlight.

by Anonymousreply 216March 2, 2023 10:35 AM

EEAAO's collapse is complete.

It will never win the Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 217March 2, 2023 4:17 PM

So needy, so triggered. Strange how trolls who hate Hollywood, actors, and of course, "progressive ideas" like accepting your own gay kid, are such hysterical snowflakes. At least 20+ threads on EEAAO and Jamile Lee Curtis. Like prayer, they think if they masturbate themselves online about it, multiple times a day, every day, on all the threads, that THEY WILL HAVE CONTROL OVER THE OSCARS AND WILL NOT BE IGNORED, DAN. Their collapse is complete. Crybabies.

by Anonymousreply 218March 2, 2023 5:41 PM

218 you’re fucking NUTS

by Anonymousreply 219March 2, 2023 6:22 PM

[quote] A silly, pointless, juvenile film.

Actually the point is to love your child unconditionally. Maybe your parents didn't.

by Anonymousreply 220March 2, 2023 6:36 PM

When I first saw it, I thought it was interesting. Now when I think about it, there isn't a single scene that stands out or that I can remember. The memory I have of this movie is a couple of frantically edited moments and hot dog fingers but I can't remember any significant story moments.

by Anonymousreply 221March 2, 2023 6:56 PM

R220 thinks if you didn't love this movie your parents didn't love you unconditionally.

by Anonymousreply 222March 3, 2023 1:37 AM

So threatened by EEAAO. Sad.

by Anonymousreply 223March 3, 2023 1:39 AM

So bored, you mean, R223.

by Anonymousreply 224March 3, 2023 1:43 AM

[quote] So threatened by EEAAO. Sad.

EEAAO so desperate to be loved and accepted by white people.

Even SADDER.

by Anonymousreply 225March 3, 2023 1:44 AM

I guess R223 missed the posts about this movie literally being a Jackie Chan vehicle recast with Yeogh.

by Anonymousreply 226March 3, 2023 1:45 AM

Yes, R225, keep going, you're making a difference...you matter. You will not be ignored.

by Anonymousreply 227March 3, 2023 1:47 AM

I saw it in the theatre. It was fabulous. Quirky and not for everyone but I liked it.

by Anonymousreply 228March 3, 2023 2:07 AM

But I did think whoever wrote it must have written it high.

by Anonymousreply 229March 3, 2023 2:12 AM

A Jackie Chan vehicle wrtten and directed by a pair of Charlie Kauffman wannabes.

by Anonymousreply 230March 3, 2023 2:14 AM

R208 gets it. The film is scooping up awards because everything else is tired Oscar bait. EEAAO feels fresh by comparison and is a worthy to have in the Academy's books. The Oscars are a record of the prevailing stories, stars, and styles of their time. None of the other films speak to now in a way that deserves Best Picture this year.

R206 The Daniels met in film school, mastered their craft, and put their voice and influences into a film that became a huge hit. So what if they liven up the sagging MCU? The reviewer said that based on the Russo brothers success with MCU after doing great work on Community. Many people who worked on that show have gone on to have huge careers, win Oscars, Emmys, Grammys, and yes work for Marvel.

Ignore R217, a BAFTA dolt looking for the dustiest, whitest film possible. EEAAO is the frontrunner for Best Picture and has swept the major awards of the season.

R220 What? The film was so bizarre it is instantly memorable: dildo and buttplug fights, hot dog fingers, rocks with googley eyes, the white room, the exploding confetti head, the raccoon, and JLC looking horrible in yellow. It's a tedious family drama smartly made into a buzzworthy acid trip of a film for today's social media landscape. Again, points for relevancy.

R229 The Daniels (DS & DK) wrote and directed it. They also have a background in VFX and editing. They're full auteurs who met at Emerson. They did the hit music video for Turn Down for What (DK is the male dancer) and the indie hit film, Swiss Army Man with Daniel Radcliffe as a reanimated corpse. If you know their work, EEAAO represents the culmination of everything they've done so far.

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by Anonymousreply 231March 3, 2023 2:20 AM

Paranoid conspirator R233, sad

by Anonymousreply 234March 3, 2023 2:41 AM

Most Best Picture winners end up being embarrassing in hindsight— CODA, Green Book, The Artist, The King’s Speech, Crash. EEAAO will be no exception. It’s an even more gimmicky Birdman, and that won too.

by Anonymousreply 235March 3, 2023 3:08 AM

And Crash--remember that piece of shit, R235? Forrest Gump, anyone?

by Anonymousreply 236March 3, 2023 3:11 AM

R235 & R236 I'll accept the Crash win was unexpected, but racism does remain a problem in America and on DataLounge, just saying. Attitudes towards gays has shifted tremendously since 2005. Trans is another story.

Thank god The Social Network didn't win over The King's Speech. The last thing we needed to do was give cokehead Sorkin, alien data collector Zuckerberg, or tedious Fincher a bigger head or bragging rights.

CODA won because of the late-season backlash against Power of the Dog. Voters wanted a film without uncomfortable controversies. How often do deaf artists who aren't Marlee Matlin, get a chance to be honored?

Birdman utilized completely different film techniques (long takes vs rapid jump cuts) from EEAAO and though overhyped, it did deserve the BP win for that alone.

The Favourite should've won but was too British (and sapphic) for some wanting distance from the film's BAFTA sweep. Green Book winning very much in line with the sentimental Oscar wins from the 80s and 90s (see: Forrest Gump) and again tackles the evergreen topic of racism in America.

The Artist has historic value as the second silent film to win BP. How often does the chance come along to award a silent film, shot in black and white, that was also well made?

by Anonymousreply 237March 3, 2023 3:29 AM

[quote][R235] & [R236] I'll accept the Crash win was unexpected, but racism does remain a problem in America and on DataLounge, just saying. Attitudes towards gays has shifted tremendously since 2005. Trans is another story.

You massive, unbridled, shameless philistine, R237. Jesus fucking christ. "Racism remains a problem in America" so a shitty, unsubtle piece of sentimental crap (which is what Crash was) movie deserved to win Best Picture? Do you have any concept of art that doesn't involve paternalistic social messaging? And I ask this whilst fully agreeing with you that, yes, racism remains a problem (uh, duh).

And all that justification for other mediocre BP winners? Why? Are you on the Oscar's PR team? I don't think you are, and yet here you are posting excruciatingly inane shit like the above. I asked this way upthread but again and I am actually asking this: can people like you even conceive of someone not liking a film (or TV show or painting or song etc.) that you yourself do like, for any reason other than that person being a bigot?

by Anonymousreply 238March 3, 2023 6:40 AM

[quote]Thank god The Social Network didn't win over The King's Speech. The last thing we needed to do was give cokehead Sorkin, alien data collector Zuckerberg, or tedious Fincher a bigger head or bragging rights.

Of all the hot takes from the Everything Everywhere fan, this has to be the worst. But this is typical of fans of that movie, who tend to have an overinflated sense of just how intelligent they are and because of that end up saying some truly idiotic things.

It's a movie that makes dumb people think they're smart, and R237 is proof of that.

by Anonymousreply 239March 3, 2023 3:36 PM

JFC can't anyone just sit back, take the ride and just enjoy a weird, wacky, sometime thrilling movie anymore?

by Anonymousreply 240March 3, 2023 4:37 PM

[quote] JFC can't anyone just sit back, take the ride and just enjoy a weird, wacky, sometime thrilling movie anymore?

Sure, but what does that have to do with enduring the horrible EEAAO?

by Anonymousreply 241March 3, 2023 4:48 PM

I know this truly tests the limits of pointless bitchery, but are the Daniels capable of taking a photograph without looking like the two most annoying human beings on the planet?

Their whole aesthetic gives off the vibe of 'guys who won't stop pestering you to attend their 11pm improv showcase.'

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by Anonymousreply 243March 3, 2023 7:09 PM

But they're so innovative! Especially in the way they took a vehicle they meant for Jackie Chan and turned it into a vehicle for someone else! Groundbreaking!

by Anonymousreply 244March 3, 2023 7:22 PM

Talk about a crybaby^ nothing burger. Sad. Mental illness on parade.

by Anonymousreply 245March 3, 2023 7:30 PM

^Butt-hurt bitch on parade, all throughout thread.^^^^^^

by Anonymousreply 246March 3, 2023 7:32 PM

R245 thinks a Jackie Chan vehicle is innovative. How pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 247March 3, 2023 7:33 PM

Lol, R237 has people pressed! At least they provided rationale behind why those movies won or didn't win.

by Anonymousreply 248March 3, 2023 7:37 PM

Oh, I get it now. The Daniels made a cool video for a pop song once. That’s why the kids love them so much.

I guess EEAAO is their Pulp Fiction. It even has a nostalgic star in it for them to gush over.

by Anonymousreply 249March 4, 2023 2:01 AM

This move is going to crash and burn.

by Anonymousreply 250March 5, 2023 6:38 PM

For this year's Academy Awards, Banshees of Inisherin should win.

Without question.

by Anonymousreply 251March 5, 2023 6:48 PM

I actually think that Banshees could pull surprise wins in several categories, including picture and acting categories

by Anonymousreply 252March 5, 2023 8:52 PM

R252 ugh I hope. The only group that didn’t suck EEAAO dicks lately was the BAFTAs. Which is a fairly good sign, which means there may be some weakness to its strong showings at the guild awards and independent spirit awards. I still don’t think it’ll win best pic at the Oscars. I’d love to see Quan and those stupid directors of it go down in flames too.

by Anonymousreply 253March 5, 2023 9:29 PM

Can Stephanie and Jamie Lee tie for supporting actress? I want this beautiful film to win 11 Oscars!

by Anonymousreply 254March 5, 2023 10:19 PM

Watching this film steamroll its way to the Oscars is deeply depressing because it’s such a fucking awful piece of shit.

The editor Paul Rogers is hot as hell, though, I’ll give them that.

by Anonymousreply 255March 6, 2023 6:22 AM

Steamroll? It's the people who are celebrating it. The ones who bought tickets and liked it. Not you. People.

by Anonymousreply 256March 6, 2023 6:34 AM

I agree, R251. Banshees is the best of a really dire lot this years. If EEAAO wins, it's gonna be Crash all over again, and by 2033 none of the people defending it like it was their momma in this thread will be willing to admit they loved it.

by Anonymousreply 257March 6, 2023 6:48 AM

You agree. REALLY. You always go for extremes. With a weird dose of self-importance.

by Anonymousreply 258March 6, 2023 6:50 AM

"Banshees" is tedious nonsense punctuated by a few bleeding fingers.

by Anonymousreply 259March 6, 2023 11:37 AM

R257. You dare compare EEAAO to Crash? Absurd.

EEAAO is far superior and deserving of the accolades.

I will admit I've been dying to catch Banshees though, so perhaps I may change my mind once I have seen it.

by Anonymousreply 260March 6, 2023 12:27 PM

[quote] Everything Everywhere All At Once

No thank you. I have sufficient.

by Anonymousreply 261March 6, 2023 12:50 PM

[quote] Everything Everywhere All At Once

Is this the new ad slogan for Golden Corral?

by Anonymousreply 262March 6, 2023 12:51 PM

It's your Grindr profile.

by Anonymousreply 263March 6, 2023 2:49 PM

I loved it but if someone told me they thought it had a couple of bro-y, puerile moments I'd listen.

by Anonymousreply 264March 6, 2023 3:50 PM

R256, bless your sweet village idiot soul.

by Anonymousreply 265March 6, 2023 4:58 PM

[quote] I will admit I've been dying to catch Banshees though, so perhaps I may change my mind once I have seen it.

If you haven't seen Banshees of Inisherin, then go and see it.

It's a vastly superior movie to EEAAO in terms of acting and story.

I think a certain element in Hollywood is pushing hard for EEAAO to win, so as to fit their agenda.

But if we're being honest, Banshees should be the film to sweep both the Best Picture and acting awards.

Notice though, which movie is being heavily promoted and hyped up, and which one isn't.

It's all bullshit politics.

Banshees should win.

by Anonymousreply 266March 6, 2023 6:38 PM

This is why you're an insane racist, R266.

What "agenda" is being pushed by EEAAO? It's not possible that people just think its a really good movie?

No. That's not possible.

Savvy (but elderly) white people like you know...just KNOW!!!... that the only reason EEAAO is being "pushed" is because Chinese people are in it, while the movie that's all white people (and cute, ethnic white people!) is being IGNORED.

See, the only explanation to a savvy old racist like you is REVERSE RACISM!!!

You're a fucking pathetic old idiot.

by Anonymousreply 267March 6, 2023 7:52 PM

Best Picture is gonna be Top Gun: Maverick, anyway. It won the Eddie Award for editing last night.

I want to console EEAAO’s hot editor Paul Rogers when he loses on Sunday night.

by Anonymousreply 268March 6, 2023 9:08 PM

Why is 267 so threatened by movies with white people in it?

by Anonymousreply 269March 6, 2023 10:27 PM

R267 should cut off his fingers, and throw them at R266's door.

by Anonymousreply 271March 6, 2023 10:33 PM

[quote] [R267] should cut off his fingers, and throw them at [R266]'s door.

How?

by Anonymousreply 272March 6, 2023 11:29 PM

R268. Honestly, I thought Maverick was a bit over hyped.

It's a great movie which does a good job of creating some real stakes, and corresponding tension, but that's about it. People kept acting like it was mind blowing when I just found it thoroughly decent.

But then I also had difficulty getting past Cruise's slowly fading looks. He was such a handsome man back in the day.

by Anonymousreply 273March 7, 2023 4:00 AM

The storyline of Banshees is/was off-putting: abuse, self-mutilation, domestic violence, death.

Regardless of great “acting”, can’t get behind the abusive themes which permeate the film.

In today’s world, there is enough “abuse”. Don’t need to laud films which perpetuate it.

Thus, Banshees doesn’t/did not do it for me.

EEAAO it is.

by Anonymousreply 274March 7, 2023 5:03 AM

Poor little snowflake R274.

Stay in your mother's basement and never leave.

This world is too harsh for your delicate little sensibility.

Enjoy your brainless hot dog fingers and manic gibberish!

by Anonymousreply 275March 7, 2023 5:42 AM

[quote] Poor little snowflake [R274]. Stay in your mother's basement and never leave. This world is too harsh for your delicate little sensibility. Enjoy your brainless hot dog fingers and manic gibberish!

Happily I will!

by Anonymousreply 276March 7, 2023 5:46 AM

Enjoy Chases's rotting corpse. We know you want to.

by Anonymousreply 277March 7, 2023 6:56 AM

Just watched it last night. Enjoyed it more than I thought it would. It takes a little time to warm up to the story and style, but once I got into it the movie was surprisingly deep while still entertaining. I agree that the two female leads (Yeoh and Hsu) were excellent, while JLC was okay. I like JLC, but I never bought her as that character. Also nice seeing a veteran like James Hong again again.

I still think Triangle of Sadness had a broader, more relevant message but EEAAO would be a strong second for me. I've still to watch Tar and Banshees, and will then have watched all the nominees I had any interest in seeing.

by Anonymousreply 278March 7, 2023 12:40 PM

I expect we'll see "the Daniels" - especially the Asian one - on panels for years....but not at the Oscars.

by Anonymousreply 279March 7, 2023 12:56 PM

Here the Daniels read some of the reviews from the audience for EEAAO.

Daniel Kwan:

[quote] It’s been a journey going from the little underdog darling (movie) to the most overrated bullshit movie of the year, to back to somewhere in the middle, and we like being somewhere in the middle now.

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by Anonymousreply 280March 7, 2023 4:29 PM

The sweet but untalented Daniels.

by Anonymousreply 281March 7, 2023 10:11 PM

[quote] The sweet but untalented Daniels.

Are you bitches trash-talking me again. I will come over and slap you silly, sister woman!

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by Anonymousreply 282March 7, 2023 11:10 PM

What's most amazing to me is neither of the Daniels are gay, although they both ping loudly in interviews--especially Scheinert. But nope, they're both with women. Kwan is married and has a kid with one.

by Anonymousreply 283March 8, 2023 2:36 AM

I thought Maverick was really enjoyable but it is not Best Picture material.

Neither is EEAO.

by Anonymousreply 284March 8, 2023 2:41 AM

There should be an honorary Oscar for films that make dumb people feel smart. EEAAO would win this year.

by Anonymousreply 285March 8, 2023 2:44 AM

Yup, r285. And Forest Gump would have won, too. I hated that film because it made dumb people feel smart. It was such a stupid film. Same with EEAAO

by Anonymousreply 286March 8, 2023 2:50 AM

EEAAO is a nepo baby and has a dick and won't win the Academy Awards and is thirsty.

by Anonymousreply 287March 8, 2023 3:13 AM

American Beauty and Crash both fit into that category with EEAAO, R285.

by Anonymousreply 288March 8, 2023 3:59 AM

Banshees celebrates cruelty, EEAAO celebrates unconditional love.

by Anonymousreply 289March 8, 2023 7:58 AM

R285. Why do you say that?

The metaphor too obvious or clumsy?

by Anonymousreply 290March 8, 2023 8:15 AM

How tiresome is someone who thinks because they don't like something all that do are wrong.

by Anonymousreply 291March 8, 2023 9:59 AM

Very tiresome. The philistinism on this board! I didn't like the movie but to those who did, "it made me feel happy!" and "you're an old racist for not liking the thing I like!" isn't the way to make a case. Sometimes, you can't make a case and someone else just doesn't like the thing. But if you want to try to make the case, you need to do a lot better.

by Anonymousreply 292March 8, 2023 10:09 AM

R292. The case has already been made regarding the film's complexity, topical themes and great performances. You don't have to agree with that, but those arguments are there.

If you choose to mischaracterize the film's supporters as philistines, that's on you.

And, despite the video essays and analysis, people somehow still describe this movie as "making stupid people feel smart". I suppose these people said the same thing about Interstellar?

by Anonymousreply 293March 8, 2023 12:03 PM

[quote]And, despite the video essays and analysis, people somehow still describe this movie as "making stupid people feel smart". I suppose these people said the same thing about Interstellar?

"This movie isn't for stupid people! I should know, because I watch YouTube videos and understood a space movie that wasn't for kids."

by Anonymousreply 294March 8, 2023 3:53 PM

[quote]"you're an old racist for not liking the thing I like!" isn't the way to make a case

It was stated quite clearly upthread that it's totally possible to dislike EEAAO for valid, non-racist reasons. But all the sniping cunts on this thread were clearly bitchy old Klanswomen.

"It's confusing!" "They only like it cause of Chinese people!!" "Why are they ignoring all the white movies??" "Why can't movies be more like The Exorcist??"

Pretty clear they ran out of gin at the old folks home that afternoon.

by Anonymousreply 295March 8, 2023 4:12 PM

[quote]But all the sniping cunts on this thread were clearly bitchy old Klanswomen.

The irony of someone bemoaning bigotry by engaging in blatant ageism and misogyny.

by Anonymousreply 296March 8, 2023 4:33 PM

[quote] [R292]. The case has already been made regarding the film's complexity, topical themes and great performances. You don't have to agree with that, but those arguments are there.

[quote] [bold] If you choose to mischaracterize the film's supporters as philistines, that's on you.[/bold]

Agree, R293.

by Anonymousreply 297March 8, 2023 4:38 PM

Some of you have very dated, reactionary tastes in movies.

If it's not Judy Garland singing "In The Good Ole Summertime," you think it's dangerously avant-garde.

by Anonymousreply 298March 8, 2023 5:05 PM

They stopped watching "Miss Marple Mysteries" for 10 minutes and were freaked out.

by Anonymousreply 299March 8, 2023 5:07 PM

[quote] The case has already been made regarding the film's complexity, topical themes and great performances. You don't have to agree with that, but those arguments are there.

And the case has also been made that it's pretentious twaddle that isn't half as clever as it thinks it is, with four performances that range from meh to Razzie worthy. You don't have to agree with that, but those arguments are there.

by Anonymousreply 300March 8, 2023 10:01 PM

R300 is a perfect example of hating the movie without being a clearly racist old person.

She's deluded and has no taste, but at least avoided white resentment!

by Anonymousreply 301March 8, 2023 10:11 PM

I could not care less about race, about being owed, any of that shit, when I make my personal picks. However, when I vote, I am a bit more strategic if I know the person I would choose out of the five has zero chance. I will then vote for the person I think has the best chance to take down the front runner if the race is close.

This year it's not as strategic as other years because most of the people who are in 2nd place are people I think deserve it. But to give you an example, I held my nose and voted for Angela Bassett because she's the only one who can unseat JLC. I thought of the five, Hong Chau deserves the award, but she's never going to get it. If she had a chance, I would have happily voted for her, but she's probably 5th in the category. I loathe JLC and her wretched performance so much, that I would vote for a non-performance in a Marvel movie if it helped keep her from winning an Oscar.

The other performances are either neck and neck (I voted for Butler and Blanchett), or so far behind that it doesn't matter (I voted for Barry Keoghan because he deserves the win, but we all know Short Round will get it). Same for Director. I know those two ass clowns will win no matter what, so I voted for Todd Field, who I think deserves it.

Picture I voted for Top Gun even though I didn't like it because it's the only film that could possibly unseat EEAAO. Of the 10 nominated, I would have voted for Tar (though it was not my pick for Best Film of the Year). I loved it, and it's probably #2 or #3 on my list, but it has no shot to win. Voted for Banshees for Original Screenplay even though I didn't much care for the film, because I think that's the only award it's going to get, if it gets any at all. I thought Tar deserved it. Adapted was a shit category, and there was nothing in there worth nominating this year, so I voted for Sarah Polley because I thought she's done some great work in the past.

by Anonymousreply 302March 8, 2023 10:31 PM

I'm so fucking sick of EEAAO and all of the thirsty actors and actresses in this movie, begging to receive an Oscar.

They're fucking shameless and disgusting.

Yeoh, Quan, and Curtis.

I hate all of them and hope they don't win SHIT!

by Anonymousreply 303March 8, 2023 10:35 PM

Yes, we know. You've already said you hate it because of the gay themes and because JLC accepts her trans child. You're just lazy scum.

by Anonymousreply 304March 8, 2023 11:52 PM

Who are you talking to, R304?

by Anonymousreply 305March 9, 2023 12:15 AM

The obnoxious troll who has posted over 50% of this thread as well as ALL the other EEAAO and JLC threads, as well as many MANY others. He's constantly, obsessively circling, enraged whenever anyone posts anything contradictory to his trollery. Insufferable.

by Anonymousreply 306March 9, 2023 12:21 AM

I think that's more than one person.

by Anonymousreply 307March 9, 2023 12:22 AM

There's one main, and several others. But ONE main.

by Anonymousreply 308March 9, 2023 12:23 AM

EEAAO ? I thought they were introducing a brand new olive oil !

by Anonymousreply 309March 9, 2023 12:57 AM

[quote] I thought they were introducing a brand new olive oil

No, that would be EEVVOO.

by Anonymousreply 310March 9, 2023 1:01 AM

[quote]R307: I think that's more than one person.

One person, lots of sock accounts.

by Anonymousreply 311March 9, 2023 1:02 AM

Hi DeFuckface. How fart you? Opening up your cheeks again?

by Anonymousreply 313March 9, 2023 2:17 AM

Execrable. Truly, unbelievably, absolutely the worst, Two hours of my life I'll never get back.

by Anonymousreply 314March 9, 2023 5:33 AM

[quote]The case has already been made regarding the film's complexity, topical themes and great performances. You don't have to agree with that, but those arguments are there.

Has it? By "case" do you mean someone has just stated that the film is complex, topical and has great performances, or that they've actually gone into their thinking on how they arrived at these opinions? Mostly what I've seen is just restating over and over again that it's good and genius etc. Which is fine, and it is fine to have that opinion. As I have my negative opinion. But it's not changing anyone's mind. (also topicality is neither here nor there for me, not a point in favour or a point against)

[quote]If you choose to mischaracterize the film's supporters as philistines, that's on you.

It's not supporting a film I don't like that makes a person a philistine (that opinion would actually make ME the philistine), it's the terrible, weird 'but it was happy and that other movie had abuse in it!' and 'you're racist if you don't like it!' that's philistine.

[quote]And, despite the video essays and analysis, people somehow still describe this movie as "making stupid people feel smart". I suppose these people said the same thing about Interstellar?

Fwiw I loathe the films of Christopher Nolan, in large part because they appeal to exactly the kind of asshole who thinks that anyone who doesn't like them simply doesn't understand them and needs to have their deep intellectual complexity explained to them over and over. Tenet was a piece of shit and the worst of Nolan's films for its faux-profundity. Hated it a lot more than EEAAO.

by Anonymousreply 316March 9, 2023 7:19 AM

The hype for this movie reminds of that saying, "If you repeat something often enough, people will start to believe it."

It's complete propaganda.

Like FOX News repeating lies about Democrats, or advertisers shouting things over and over in commercials.

"Michelle Yeoh is going to win the Oscar!"

"Quan is going to win Best Actor!"

"EEAAO is going to win Best Picture!"

It's all propaganda and advertising, meant to brainwash voters into voting for EEAAO.

That's how low the Academy Awards have sunk.

by Anonymousreply 317March 9, 2023 11:11 AM

R316. The "case" is in the video essays that are easily found on YouTube and on multiple DL threads.

View them or don't at your discretion.

But if one prefers not to view the existing analysis, then you'd best not make unfounded criticism of the movie as "feel good only".

by Anonymousreply 318March 9, 2023 11:26 AM

[quote]R317: The hype for this movie reminds of that saying, "If you repeat something often enough, people will start to believe it." It's complete propaganda.

Well, it's certainly clear that the user behind the sock aggregate desperately attacking this film on DL believes that; he thinks if he peppers threads with as many posts as he can hating on this film, that he'll somehow convince people that it's bad.

by Anonymousreply 319March 9, 2023 6:57 PM

"Look it up on YouTube" is an argument for antivaxxers and other assorted conspiracy theorists.

And it's not unfounded to say the movie is feel good only. For all of the film's machinations, it exists primarily on an emotional rather than an intellectual level. Everything in the movie is right there on the surface. The dialogue is almost entirely expositional, even in the emotional moments when it doesn't need to be. That's why when people describe what the movie is about, they don't talk about the subtext, they tend to just recount the plot.

by Anonymousreply 320March 9, 2023 7:00 PM

I tried to watch it. I really did. I even love Michelle Yeoh. But the movie is unwatchable. Boring, actually. I dropped out.

by Anonymousreply 321March 9, 2023 7:02 PM

I have two words that sum up the intelligence and cleverness of this film...

Deirdre Beaubeirdre

by Anonymousreply 322March 10, 2023 1:19 AM

Just watched it.

The daughter is good.

The husband is really good.

It's not well-written, though. There's a way to make multiverse work in a movie (see, e.g., that Spiderman one). But this did not work. I could see the daughter getting an Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 323March 10, 2023 1:27 AM

R320. Sure, I wouldn't trust YouTube as far as I could throw it for news or factual information.

But this is a movie. It's art. YouTube is fine for opinion, and video essays are just analysis. There are no stakes.

Regardless, your purchasing habits are at your own discretion.

by Anonymousreply 324March 10, 2023 5:08 AM

You show your own bad faith when you mischaracterize what people with differing opinions are saying, R318. I never said that the defense of the movie was on feel good "only" - I said I'd seen a lot of it in this specific thread. Which I have.

And tell me, if there was a food that wasn't to your taste (or a painting or a song etc.), would you really seek out fucking Youtube videos arguing in favour of something your personal taste interprets as "bad?" Come on. You wouldn't. Or perhaps you would, who knows. I might for some very long book or classic work etc. but for this movie? No. Again, people posting in this thread are free to tell me why they liked it - without resorting to insults and baseless accusations - and I'll read and consider their opinions.

People who truly think that you can use logic and explanation to convince others to share their tastes are misguided at best. I didn't like the movie. I'm not a sockpuppet with multiple accounts. There are others who also didn't like it. That's OK. Liking it is also OK. No one needs to be offended or angry about it, and yet this thread is full of extremely angry people.

by Anonymousreply 325March 10, 2023 6:24 AM

R325. People always confuse taste and preference.

Taste has historically referred to the ability to distinguish quality. Preference is exactly what it says on the tin.

Using food as an analogy, diet is preference, but taste is the ability to distinguish bad food from high quality food. I may not like asparagus, but I have the taste to be able to tell when it is extremely well cooked compared to when it is rotten.

So you may not like the movie, but if you are unable to determine the quality aspects of it - and thus unable to determine why other people did like the movie - then you have bad taste. And you can learn taste through education and analysis. Logic and explanation.

I'm not critiquing your preferences - nobody should be doing that. I wouldn't critique you picking fish over chicken for dinner. But taste is more than relative preference, and that's what awards should be about too. Not a popularity contest but an assessment of the movie's quality.

by Anonymousreply 326March 10, 2023 1:18 PM

OP had this right to a T. One of the stupidest, most over-rated pieces of shite I've experienced. Keeeee-riste it's BAD.

by Anonymousreply 327March 10, 2023 7:22 PM

I guess that's why it was nominated for 11 Oscars, more than any other film this year.

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by Anonymousreply 328March 10, 2023 8:26 PM

If you think "this movie is nominated for so many Oscars, so it must be good" is a valid argument for the film, R328, you've come to the wrong place.

Forrest Gump and Dances With Wolves earned even more nominations than Everything Everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 330March 10, 2023 8:52 PM

[quote] I guess that's why it was nominated for 11 Oscars, more than any other film this year.

That means absolutely nothing.

The Academy has no credibility.

It's all just a popularity contest.

by Anonymousreply 331March 10, 2023 8:54 PM

It's all so important that the TRANS doesn't get to speak on Oscar Night!!!! It's all about the TRANS!!!!

by Anonymousreply 332March 10, 2023 8:56 PM

OP's fits mean absolutely nothing.

The Data Lounge has no credibility.

It's all just troll farm contest.

by Anonymousreply 333March 10, 2023 8:59 PM

I'm going to put this as politely as I can, R332 / R333.

You're totally fucking batshit crazy and should probably be locked up in a padded cell.

by Anonymousreply 334March 10, 2023 9:02 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Sad troll screeching into the void.

Please go on.

by Anonymousreply 335March 10, 2023 9:04 PM

A color Purple-style shut out would be kind of funny

by Anonymousreply 336March 10, 2023 10:16 PM

That would be hilarious R336.

I would love to see EEAAO get shut out completely because of the ridiculous antics of Michelle Yeoh and Jamie Lee Curtis.

It would be so amazing!

by Anonymousreply 337March 10, 2023 10:40 PM

I quit watching a little over an hour into it.

How did it end?

by Anonymousreply 338March 11, 2023 3:17 AM

Gosh, I don’t even remember, r338. I think the multiverse was saved at the last minute & everyone lived happily ever after all tied up in a sparkly bow that sprouted into a tree that ended up on a bagel & eventually pooped out of a colon into a multiverse where shitty movies get crap awards?

by Anonymousreply 339March 11, 2023 3:26 AM

It ended with huge box office, a multiverse of nominations and awards, and a bunch of miserable trolls trolling s gay site.

by Anonymousreply 340March 11, 2023 3:38 AM

R338, That's around the time I said, "Enough!" too. I don't care how it ends. It is THAT bad.

by Anonymousreply 341March 11, 2023 5:28 AM

R338. It ended with the mother essentially stopping the main villain - the daughter - from killing herself.

The danger to the multiverse was the pervasive and poisonous influence of the Bagel - the manifestation of the daughter's nihilism - that was made obsolete once the mother rejected it's point of view in favor of a more life-affirming, anti-nihilistic perspective.

by Anonymousreply 342March 11, 2023 9:31 AM

It was a very touching movie about the relationship between the mother and daughter and depression. You have to watch the movie with your full attention.

by Anonymousreply 343March 12, 2023 5:28 PM

It will be preserved as "culturally significant". And rightfully so, because it captures the confused, neurotic, depressed, and joyless '20s. 2020's that is.

by Anonymousreply 344March 12, 2023 5:32 PM

I never want to hear another fucking thing about this movie, after Oscar night.

by Anonymousreply 345March 12, 2023 9:35 PM

White people get the shaft again.

This movie deserves nothing.

by Anonymousreply 346March 13, 2023 1:50 AM

I came back to see the salty, bitter tears shed by the multi-socked racist, misogynistic bigot who sponsored this thread, who has by now thrown off the disguise, the pretense that there were legitimate reasons to shit all over this film. I was not disappointed. :D

This film deserved everything it got. I am quite happy with its outcome.

by Anonymousreply 347March 13, 2023 5:12 AM

Mmmm...loving all the tears from EEAAO trolls.

Delish! Suck it haters!

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by Anonymousreply 349March 13, 2023 8:02 AM

"I never want to hear another fucking thing about this movie, after Oscar night"

You won't. The Wokiellennials got their fix of worshiping anything foreign and/or underdog. Their attention span is like 15 seconds. This gimmicky, manic-depressive mess will be forgotten by April.

by Anonymousreply 350March 13, 2023 8:33 AM

ALL OF YOU PATHETIC, TINY DICKED, WHITE, LOSER, HATERS WERE WRONG! THANK GOD! SUCK IT, HATERS! DIE YOU CANCEROUS CUNTS!

by Anonymousreply 351March 13, 2023 8:58 AM

I liked this movie a great deal. Have tastes changed or was there not enough good competition this year?

Thinking back... take Brazil (1985). It was nominated for two Academy Awards, for Best Original Screenplay and Best Art Direction. Maybe EEAAO would have been more like that... now regarded as a classic but not really overly popular or mainstream.

by Anonymousreply 352March 13, 2023 4:13 PM

It reminded me of "Time Bandits" which I saw as a kid and I HATED it.

by Anonymousreply 353March 13, 2023 4:54 PM

It'd be interesting to revisit the 1980s Terry Gilliam movies. I was a little too young?

by Anonymousreply 354March 13, 2023 4:59 PM

"Wokiellennials"????

Sorry, babe. That needs a rewrite. That is way too many metaphors crashing together.

by Anonymousreply 356March 13, 2023 7:18 PM

It's so embarrassing that this film won. And it was obvious pandering to the woke crowd.

I predict more people will view the film and then never watch the Oscars again.

by Anonymousreply 357March 13, 2023 10:00 PM

Of course it won, it’s mawkish and sentimental, the academy loves that stuff. EEAAO is basically Forrest Gump but with multiple universes instead of time periods.

by Anonymousreply 358March 13, 2023 11:01 PM

I wonder how any evangelicals in flyover states will walk out of the movie during the buttplug scene.

by Anonymousreply 359March 13, 2023 11:15 PM

I plan to see it but it’s on Showtime now and I no longer get that channel. I don’t want to add it back just to see one movie.

by Anonymousreply 361March 14, 2023 12:02 AM

R361 if you have Amazon Prime you can add a 7day free trial of Showtime the cancel.

by Anonymousreply 362March 14, 2023 12:04 AM

Aw thanks. I have Prime that’s what I’ll do.

by Anonymousreply 363March 14, 2023 12:06 AM

"Woke" clearly has no meaning anymore. In what sense is this movie "woke"?

Chinese people are in it? Is that it?

Wow.

by Anonymousreply 364March 14, 2023 8:09 PM

I think it's being considered "woke" because the "if you don't like it you're a bigot" crowd is in this thread howling about white supremacist tears. Alongside the "if you do like it you're a stupid fucking wokester" crowd. As is DL tradition.

My political beliefs probably qualify me as "woke" to most on DL but I didn't like this movie. I also don't think winnign a shitload of Oscars is any kind of proof of quality. Those cheering on establishment box-ticking probably aren't supporting the side they think they are, either.

by Anonymousreply 365March 14, 2023 8:27 PM

Eh - i think the people who cry that white people can't get Oscars any more and that the movie is a plot by the CCP are crazy bigots!

by Anonymousreply 366March 14, 2023 8:30 PM

Sweet troll tears. Yes. YESSSSSSSSSSSSS.

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by Anonymousreply 367March 14, 2023 11:47 PM

JLC is white & got an Oscar.

One that a black woman deserved.

by Anonymousreply 368March 15, 2023 12:42 AM

THAT'S your troll strategy? Sad.

by Anonymousreply 369March 15, 2023 12:44 AM

People who loved this movie are on drugs. Perhaps not pot, coke or heroin. More like Ritalin, adderal or meth.

by Anonymousreply 370March 15, 2023 3:55 AM

People who obsess on hating this movie are...unfortunate. ^

by Anonymousreply 371March 15, 2023 4:08 AM

I can't even tell you which film won last year for Best Picture.

This film will be forgotten as it should.

by Anonymousreply 372March 15, 2023 4:25 AM

You're already forgotten by your parents.

by Anonymousreply 373March 15, 2023 4:26 AM

That's true, r373. And childish.

by Anonymousreply 374March 15, 2023 4:29 AM

The movie is very interesting and innovative imho. I like it a lot and strongly recommend everyone to see it once. Still blown away by Michelle’s and Ke Quan’s performance.

by Anonymousreply 375March 15, 2023 4:39 AM

[quote] The movie is very interesting and innovative imho. I like it a lot and strongly recommend everyone to see it once. Still blown away by Michelle’s and Ke Quan’s performance.

Agree, R375. The whole multiverse concept is fascinating. There have been other movies as innovative: The Matrix comes to mind. However, this film, like The Matrix triggers some as it does not resonate with where some viewers are. Hence the divisive stances regarding it.

Do think this will be a cult classic down the road akin to The Matrix.

by Anonymousreply 376March 15, 2023 5:50 AM

R376, you don’t get to be a cult classic after winning seven Oscars, six of which are in top categories. EEAAO doesn’t even get to be the cool movie that loses out to the square choice, like Pulp Fiction when it lost to Forrest Gump.

It’s in the unenviable position of the dog that caught the car.

by Anonymousreply 377March 15, 2023 6:45 AM

Catching Best Director, Best Original Screenplay AND Picture is pretty amazing. Not to mention a boatload of others, Golden Globes, Independant Spirit Awards, Directors Guild, Writers Guild, Critics Choice, the list goes on.

by Anonymousreply 378March 15, 2023 6:54 AM

^ Then EEAAO can be a classic years down the road, ahead of its time when the Multiverse Concept is part and parcel of human existence.

by Anonymousreply 379March 15, 2023 6:58 AM

R379, do you really think the multiverse concept is going to be a significant part of cinematic storytelling years down the road? As a concept, it so easily lends itself to cheap narrative tricks that I think it will inevitably run its course.

We already see how cynically movie studios are exploiting it for nostalgic fan-service (let's get every Spider-Man and every Batman and so forth in one movie), and it's closely associated with Marvel movies, which seem to have finally reached the point of cultural decline.

by Anonymousreply 381March 15, 2023 5:34 PM

Not sure why the Black Panther movies get treated with a reverence that, like, X-men does not.

Isn't it a comic book movie? And a slightly ridiculous one at that?

by Anonymousreply 383March 15, 2023 5:56 PM

What was up with the scenes where Michelle Yeah and JLC were snuggling and kissing each other? Were they lesbian lovers in a parallel universe?

by Anonymousreply 384March 15, 2023 6:17 PM

[quote] [R379], do you really think the multiverse concept is going to be a significant part of cinematic storytelling years down the road?

Did not say “significant part of cinematic storytelling”.

Multiverse will be a part of culture and accepted daily life.

(Think of that neighbor down the road that you get “bad vibes” from every time you interact. You don’t know them well, but something is “off” when you encounter one another. Others cannot perceive that neighbor in the way you do. Yet your interactions with said neighbor are dissonant…..for a reason.)

Roughly by year 2075.

by Anonymousreply 385March 15, 2023 7:16 PM

^ This will also give rise to a greater understanding of things like déjà vu and the currently-considered bizarre medical phenomenon of FAS (Foreign Accent Syndrome).

by Anonymousreply 386March 15, 2023 7:25 PM

No, r386, the multiverse theory has been around for a while but there is currently no evidence that it exists. Hell, even Stranger Things did this (better). Lots of books about it too.

EEAAO wasn't original in it's ideas at all. And those "bad vibes" you get from people are instincts. I can read people really well and have been told I should have been a profiler. I don't think they have anything to do with some multiverse. My instincts have served me well over the years.

by Anonymousreply 387March 15, 2023 10:07 PM

[quote]R384: What was up with the scenes where Michelle Yeah and JLC were snuggling and kissing each other? Were they lesbian lovers in a parallel universe?

Yes. See reply 65 on the linked thread.

You know, you really ought to try to see the film. Don't let far-right assholes convince you that you'll catch some sort of 'woke cooties' if you see it. It really is good.

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by Anonymousreply 388March 16, 2023 1:24 AM

[quote] No, [R386], the multiverse theory has been around for a while

Indeed. Hugh Everett in 1957. Although William James first coined the term Multiverse from a philosophical standpoint. Everett gave The Many Worlds Theory a mathematical base.

[quote] but there is currently no evidence that it exists.

Speak with String Theorists. Or M Theorists. They might disagree when they base their mathematics on dimensions or 10 or more as these fit the properties of nanoscale actions. Although some - like yourself, R387 - find it hard to even imagine or perceive other dimensions on the macro scale. (Limited perception?)

[quote] EEAAO wasn't original in its ideas at all.

Who claimed that EEAAO was the originator of the Multiverse idea? This has been in the Science Fiction genre for quite some time. What EEAAO has done, is propel these ideas in a medium which delivered award-circuit attention: expanding the reach of these ideas into groups of individuals who were previously unexposed to said themes.

[quote] And those "bad vibes" you get from people are instincts. I can read people really well and have been told I should have been a profiler. I don't think they have anything to do with some multiverse. My instincts have served me well over the years.

Good for you that your “instincts” have served you well enough, R387. And that you you were lauded to be a “profiler” based on your instincts. (We all have them, by the way….some are more developed than others.).

But the finer point remains, from whence and where do such “instincts” arise?

by Anonymousreply 389March 16, 2023 8:42 AM

The movie's title is part of its appeal. Everything, Everywhere, All at Once aptly describes the feeling of 2020s overwhelm.

by Anonymousreply 390March 16, 2023 9:11 AM

r389, in my case, the instincts arose when I was a child and was scared to death of my own father. I spent a lot of time learning to read him to know when I needed to hide. I predicted that he would attempt suicide not once, but twice during my lifetime; the last attempt happening just before xmas as I predicted he would do to try to get attention. I didn't predict his attempt at murdering my mom but in my mind I saw him murdering all of us, meaning my siblings as well. PTSD is a horrible thing that I don't wish on anyone but it did shape me into the person I am who can read most people.

My instincts have served me well. Not everyone has them but then again, not everyone needed to.

by Anonymousreply 391March 16, 2023 11:40 AM

Something that we are not talking about is that EEAAO needs to be watched in a movie theatre, at least the first time.

by Anonymousreply 392March 16, 2023 11:53 AM

Ordered the Blu-ray from Amazon for a friend yesterday and it states it's arriving Mar 30 - Apr 7 WTF?

by Anonymousreply 393March 16, 2023 11:57 AM

R387. EEAAO uniquely uses the multiverse as a metaphor for nihilism. Or if it isn't original, then I just haven't seen that connection anywhere else.

It FEELS intuitive though. Because the multiverse makes us ever smaller in the grand scheme of things. Of course, comic books have been doing the multiverse forever, but it's often seen as this exciting thing with unlimited potential.

Yet the reality is, in comics and in real life, that a multiverse actually strips us of free will, uniqueness, and purpose. Or at least, that's how it often feels to me.

And Stranger Things does not have a multiverse. Not how I remember it anyway. They have ONE parallel universe filled with monsters, and that's about it. And that parallel universe might not even really exist depending on how you interpret Season 4 and what happens in S5.

by Anonymousreply 394March 16, 2023 12:18 PM

[quote] My instincts have served me well. [bold] Not everyone has them [bold] but then again, not everyone needed to.

R387, let’s agree to disagree, then, as scientifically/medically speaking, all humans have “instincts”….since you seem to be speaking in the literal sense.

And speaking of literal, your post @ R391 is a materialistic/hard reality interpretation of the question previously posed. The query involved the instincts….promptings…..flashes of insight….inexplicable sensations, etc that we (as a collective of humanity) all have from time to time (as noted in the post relating to déjà vu and other anomalous things like serendipity/coincidence, and conditions like PLS and FAS.)

Sounds like your backstory is quite involved, R387, and this may explain your perceptions regarding many things.

by Anonymousreply 395March 16, 2023 1:12 PM

[quote] Independant Spirit Awards,

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 396March 16, 2023 1:50 PM

It was way too out there and violent for me on a plane- I’ll give it another shot streaming on a large screen. But the violence and constant use of metaphors is hard. Can’t the essential drama and valid story be displayed in reality? Always much more powerful. And the martial arts violence has always been a hard swallow for me- no different tgat the good guys without a scratch and the bad guys mauled in melees of special effects in the Marvel films that bore the heck out of me.

So I’m not likely to like it so far!

by Anonymousreply 397March 16, 2023 2:18 PM

I agree with r391. Lots of people who grew up around unpredictable volatile family members develop hyper-vigilance. They become very adept at looking for potential red flags in people, because they do it unconsciously as it’s a trauma response and a survival mechanism. Red flags can be very subtle and a lot of people can’t really express what tips them off.

There’s a really great book called “The Gift of Fear” by Gavin DeBecker (I think that’s his name) that talks about how important it is to honor your gut is when it comes to feeling uneasy about people or situations. A lot of times people tend to dismiss those feelings if they can’t articulate why they feel uneasy.

by Anonymousreply 398March 16, 2023 2:36 PM

Sorry for killing the thread. 😬

by Anonymousreply 399March 16, 2023 9:56 PM