Dumbo cancelled
Robert Spencer 
Disney blocks Peter Pan, Dumbo, Swiss Family Robinson, and The Aristocats due to offensive racial depictions
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 86 | January 29, 2021 3:26 PM |
Walt Disney and these archaic cartoons were racist as fuck. Anyone who opposes this action has racism they should work on within themselves.
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | January 25, 2021 2:34 PM |
Peter Pan should be remade as a pro-Black story. Dumbo also has transphobic undertones
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | January 25, 2021 2:38 PM |
That crow song "When I See an Elephant Fly" is one of my favourite Disney songs ever. They should add some kind of PSA or note and let it be.
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | January 25, 2021 2:41 PM |
It’s caricature. That’s what cartoons do. Edna Mode from the Incredibles isn’t much different from these old examples.
| by Anonymous | reply 6 | January 25, 2021 2:43 PM |
R5
Read the article. They’re only removed from children’s section and can still be watched by adults, or by children with parental consent. And they have added disclaimers as well.
| by Anonymous | reply 8 | January 25, 2021 2:44 PM |
[quote] Walt Disney and these archaic cartoons were racist as fuck. Anyone who opposes this action has racism they should work on within themselves.
So you’re for censorship? You think Gone With the Wind shouldn’t be shown either? You can acknowledge they were racist and still watch them.
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | January 25, 2021 2:45 PM |
I love the Aristocats with!? Just add a disclaimer such as the one Warner Brothers puts before older Tom and Jerry cartoons.
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | January 25, 2021 2:45 PM |
Do the people making these decisions to not show these things believe that banning them somehow is going to stop racism? Dumbo is not making children racist. If you want to protect kids from racism, then ban their parents, their grandparents.
| by Anonymous | reply 11 | January 25, 2021 2:47 PM |
R11, see R2 for the kind of people making these decisions. It's only going to get worse.
| by Anonymous | reply 13 | January 25, 2021 2:49 PM |
When can we separate? It’s time. It’s past time.
| by Anonymous | reply 14 | January 25, 2021 2:54 PM |
What 99% of people don't understand is that humankind hasn't reached some kind of cultural pinnacle. 15, 30, 50 years from now, our contemporary literature, films, and art will be seen as just as tasteless and offensive as these works seem to many people these days, because cultural norms are ever-changing. The current norms aren't "the best," "the most enlightened," or whatever, they're just what's trending right now.
| by Anonymous | reply 15 | January 25, 2021 2:55 PM |
I have watched both of those movies recently.
The crows are a racist stereotype (although I wonder if kids would pick up on it since it is a stereotype of black singers circa 1940). It is a great song, and I suspect while a stereotype, the crows in Dumbo are treated with a lot more dignity than black characters in non-cartoons of the time.
Swiss Family Robinson on the other hand... Really not you can say positive about the depiction of the pirates and it was made 20 years later than Dumbo. I will say James Danno Macarthur was not hard on the eyes. You see some of that in some of the early Hawaii 5-O episodes, but after the first season he is given less to do. I get the impression that Jack Lord wanted to be the one star of the show.
The removing it from the child's profile but having it still available and giving the parents a heads up there might be some outdated and/or objectional content seems like a good compromise.
| by Anonymous | reply 16 | January 25, 2021 2:56 PM |
Anyone who disagrees with me should die.
| by Anonymous | reply 17 | January 25, 2021 2:58 PM |
It wasnt canceled. It's still viewable anytime. Stop being a dramatic cunt about it.
| by Anonymous | reply 19 | January 25, 2021 3:10 PM |
You don't seem to know what "cancelled" means, Boomer R19.
| by Anonymous | reply 20 | January 25, 2021 3:12 PM |
It's only a matter of time before they're removed. Remember how Gone With The Wind was almost removed from HBO Max due to the George Floyd protests? The "only removing them from the kid's sections" is a pacifier, it won't be long before they're taken off the service completely. Isn't revisionist history fun?
| by Anonymous | reply 21 | January 25, 2021 3:19 PM |
R2 kill yourself and put you and the rest of us out of your misery.
| by Anonymous | reply 22 | January 25, 2021 3:22 PM |
So how many Trans Women of Color Labourers of the Sexual Arts were killed because of the Disney Company’s gross negligence? Dombo’s mother deserved everything she got.
| by Anonymous | reply 23 | January 25, 2021 3:23 PM |
I prefer it when the board talks about celebrity sexual fantasies and dick size.
| by Anonymous | reply 24 | January 25, 2021 3:27 PM |
R24 you’re a nasty whore
| by Anonymous | reply 25 | January 25, 2021 3:30 PM |
The tranny SJW Twitter freaks are going to destroy our culture. What’s next, Wizard of Oz because there are midgets? Are we not allowed to watch Breakfast at Tiffany’s every again? What happened to viewing things in context of when they were made?
| by Anonymous | reply 26 | January 25, 2021 3:30 PM |
[quote] Wizard of Oz because there are midgets?
*gasp*
That’s literal violence!!!
| by Anonymous | reply 27 | January 25, 2021 3:36 PM |
HELP! Our racist, sexist, homophobic culture is being destroyed. We must rush to save it or we’ll never experience nostalgia again.
| by Anonymous | reply 28 | January 25, 2021 3:36 PM |
R26 is more worried about three old cartoons than actual people living today whose humanity he dismisses with hateful name-calling.
| by Anonymous | reply 29 | January 25, 2021 3:39 PM |
[quote]HELP! Our racist, sexist, homophobic culture is being destroyed. We must rush to save it or we’ll never experience nostalgia again.
Our culture? Seems like it’s your culture.
| by Anonymous | reply 30 | January 25, 2021 3:43 PM |
It's nice to see that our identity politics division trolls are back after January 20. Already gearing up for midterm elections in 2022!
A slow day on Parler? Oh, wait - EVERY DAY is a slow day on Parler now!!
| by Anonymous | reply 31 | January 25, 2021 3:48 PM |
I knew as soon as HBO removed Gone With the Wind that it would set a dangerous precedent. Banning art is never a good move.
| by Anonymous | reply 32 | January 25, 2021 3:49 PM |
So dangerous! So very, very dangerous! Life will never be the same if gays are allowed to marry and I can’t buy confederate flags at Walmart.
| by Anonymous | reply 33 | January 25, 2021 3:53 PM |
I'm cancelling my subscription. Not expensive, but if they're going to keep doing this, what's the point?
Jesus, Dumbo changed many peoples' views re animal exploitation. Just b/c there are jive-talking crows, it's cancelled? FFS.
| by Anonymous | reply 34 | January 25, 2021 3:57 PM |
FANTASIA (dancing hippoes modelled after fat African-American women) and LADY AND THE TRAMP (Thai people referred to as "Siamese" and depicted as malicious cats) should also be cancelled.
| by Anonymous | reply 35 | January 25, 2021 3:59 PM |
It took 15 seconds to cancel.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 36 | January 25, 2021 4:03 PM |
They had disclaimers, developed by a committee of experts, before these movies since last fall. I guess some activists thought that wasn't enough.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 37 | January 25, 2021 4:05 PM |
Good for you R36. That’s what needs to be done.
| by Anonymous | reply 38 | January 25, 2021 4:06 PM |
Bambi with its absentee father standing heroically on the bluff while mother does the child rearing and dies can go also. Sexist crap.
| by Anonymous | reply 39 | January 25, 2021 4:06 PM |
I find it interesting that these movies feature a lot of violence, including murder and threats of murder to children, but those don't require content disclaimers.
| by Anonymous | reply 40 | January 25, 2021 4:08 PM |
I think worse Republicans than Trump will be elected in 2022. Just a hunch. This will be a decade of hell.
| by Anonymous | reply 41 | January 25, 2021 4:09 PM |
Narcolepsis is not funny! (SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARVES).
| by Anonymous | reply 42 | January 25, 2021 4:09 PM |
[quote] Thai people referred to as "Siamese" and depicted as malicious cats
R35, it's not the "Siamese" part that's offensive, but rather, as you pointed out, making them villains. "Siam" is commonly used in Thailand in relation to branding (e.g., a luxury shopping mall). It's not derogatory. It's like Japan using "Nippon" in its own products and services (e.g., ANA airline).
| by Anonymous | reply 43 | January 25, 2021 4:12 PM |
[bold] These movies are ONLY blocked for kids under the age of 7.
| by Anonymous | reply 44 | January 25, 2021 4:20 PM |
They shouldn’t be blocked period.
| by Anonymous | reply 45 | January 25, 2021 4:25 PM |
I love Dumbo. What is wrong with it?
| by Anonymous | reply 46 | January 25, 2021 4:27 PM |
Let the little ones watch Tarantino.
| by Anonymous | reply 47 | January 25, 2021 4:27 PM |
Let the little ones watch youporn.
| by Anonymous | reply 48 | January 25, 2021 4:29 PM |
They've only moved them over to the section where kids have to get parental consent to watch these movies. They haven't been censored or deleted or cancelled or anything along those lines.
May I remind you that literally dozens of you on the recent Gone With the Wind thread (a) lied and said the movie had been deleted from HBO Max, and some said it had been completely censored forever, and (b) said the "censoring" of GWTW guaranteed Trump would win.
Perhaps some of you should cool your shit down for a second instead of blowing your top and screaming about a travesty that has not actually happened.
| by Anonymous | reply 49 | January 25, 2021 4:30 PM |
A lot of liars on Datalounge these days.
It's sad when you see people talk about how great and wonderful and witty Datalounge is, when this thread right here is 100% Datalounge.
GWTW wasn't "almost removed" from HBO Max. That's a lie. It wasn't censored or deleted or banned. Those are lies.
These Disney movies haven't been cancelled or banned. Those are lies, too.
A lot of you are regular DLers who don't usually troll, but you let yourselves get caught up in these lies because you want to be lied to. You're no better than the Trumpsters and QAnoners you complain about on other threads, where you ask, "Why do they believe such crazy things?" Hey, you're doing it too, believing something crazy because you're addicted to outrage and being a victim.
And you'll double down or triple down and demand everyone FF me and tell me to go kill myself, which you'll say is completely justified response because it's "pointless bitchery," when in fact it's just you getting your feelings hurt.
| by Anonymous | reply 51 | January 25, 2021 4:38 PM |
Loved swiss family robinson and the aristocrats. Can't remember anything "racist" in that one.
The other movies I don't care for.
| by Anonymous | reply 52 | January 25, 2021 4:46 PM |
Why would kids even need parental consent for cartoons? Seriously. I grew up watching Bugs and Daffynand those were far more "adult" than Disney crap.
| by Anonymous | reply 53 | January 25, 2021 4:48 PM |
OP had every VHS tape hoarder hot and bothered for a moment there - flipping the lid on the ottoman, running hands over all those over-sized cassette containers with double plastic coating. “I’m rich off those little fucks! I’ll buy Dwayne a tattoo!”
| by Anonymous | reply 54 | January 25, 2021 4:52 PM |
So Dumbo is rated NC-17 now and is blocked from viewing by kids on puberty blockers... got it.
All the Trannies and Black Militants might as well campaign for Ivanka 2024.
| by Anonymous | reply 55 | January 25, 2021 4:56 PM |
[quote] instead of blowing your top
But I like blowing my top.
| by Anonymous | reply 56 | January 25, 2021 4:56 PM |
The problem with this, is where does it end? These people get off more on the power trip than they are actually offended.
| by Anonymous | reply 57 | January 25, 2021 5:09 PM |
They should just do what was done for Gone With The Wind. Film an introduction warning people about the racism and show the original film.
That actually helps the dialogue about race.
| by Anonymous | reply 58 | January 25, 2021 5:09 PM |
This is all you need. And it teaches the little kid a lesson about how far we've come.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 59 | January 25, 2021 5:11 PM |
Interesting so The Help and newer movies are ok but older movies like GWTW are bad?
| by Anonymous | reply 60 | January 25, 2021 5:13 PM |
We need these things to understand our culture of racism- we can't erase them completely. I think the warning is good. But I've written papers on the messaging in old Disney movies- they're terribly important cultural historical documents and shaped our parents and grandparents' world-views.
I do think every adult under 40 needs to learn the phrase:
"Sticks and stones may break my bones, But words can never hurt me."
and stop desperately wanting to be victims all the time of other people. We're going to need actual survival instincts. Stop borrowing trouble.
| by Anonymous | reply 63 | January 26, 2021 12:56 AM |
[quote] We need these things to understand our culture of racism- we can't erase them completely.
We don’t “need” bigoted entertainment” to understand bigotry. People understand bigotry. It doesn’t make them less bigoted. We have a world of information at our fingertips. It hasn’t made people smarter nor more empathetic. This thread will continue on with fools claiming everything is happening but what Disney is actually doing.
| by Anonymous | reply 64 | January 26, 2021 2:07 AM |
"We have a world of information at our fingertips."
... that's what the movie is.
| by Anonymous | reply 65 | January 26, 2021 2:12 AM |
I’m a member of the Disney (blu ray) Movie Club. I was waiting to buy my required titles until they released The Watcher In the Woods on blu ray, but that doesn’t look like it’s going to happen. I guess I’ll get Swiss Family Robinson and ... I don’t know what else. Whatever’s the most offensive Disney title on Blu ray.
| by Anonymous | reply 66 | January 26, 2021 2:19 AM |
[quote] It's only a matter of time before they're removed. Remember how Gone With The Wind was almost removed from HBO Max due to the George Floyd protests?
I cannot get over this drama queen “Almost removed”!!! Wtf does that even mean. How can something almost be removed. It’s either removed or it’s not. Some of you guys are really something lol.
| by Anonymous | reply 67 | January 26, 2021 2:22 AM |
I'm not familiar with Swiss Family Robinson. Can someone explain why it's offensive?
| by Anonymous | reply 68 | January 26, 2021 2:35 AM |
Why is Pete Pan offensive? Is it because he's gay and/or trans?
| by Anonymous | reply 69 | January 26, 2021 2:37 AM |
Tiger Lily, r69?
The Whoopie Goldberg Tom and Jerry intro is extremely well done. It is the opposite of cancel culture. She explains the stereotypes, its historical context, and its importance in the cartoons. She argues against editing out stereotypical content or getting rid of the cartoons. It’s educational, and people can ignore it if they choose.
| by Anonymous | reply 70 | January 26, 2021 2:46 AM |
Why are the crows from Dumbo racist, but the hyenas from Lion King aren’t?
I just watched The Aristocats on New Year’s but I can’t think of anything that could possibly be construed as racist. Unless it’s the British geese.
| by Anonymous | reply 71 | January 26, 2021 2:46 AM |
R68 Swiss Family Robinson is offensive because a Swiss family are in a shipwreck and set up a house and a farm on some Polynesian island.
It's offensive because some Polynesians may have been displaced. Therefore the SJWs say the Swiss Family should have drowned in the ocean.
| by Anonymous | reply 72 | January 26, 2021 2:57 AM |
The Siamese cat is a pretty brazen stereotype and uses chopsticks to play the piano. The hyenas in Lion Kong have been criticized, but they are balanced by other black and African characterizations. Maybe it will seem more offensive in 50 years, or maybe the frame of reference will be lost.
These movies are not being edited or censored. If you watch them with contemporary eyes, rather than a childhood memory, the dated content - both offensive and just old fashioned - is extremely obvious.
| by Anonymous | reply 73 | January 26, 2021 3:02 AM |
[quote] chopsticks
Do they offend you? Are you Siamese?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 74 | January 26, 2021 3:20 AM |
Well, then - no more of these characters, I suppose?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 75 | January 26, 2021 4:12 AM |
Are they going to cancel Bambi? What’ll be the angle they use? Hunter should have been another ethnicity?
| by Anonymous | reply 76 | January 26, 2021 4:38 AM |
Yawn, the Republicans bitching about this didn't care when a Utah theater chain refused to show Brokeback Mountain. You weren't bitching about cancel culture then, were ya freepers?
| by Anonymous | reply 77 | January 26, 2021 4:51 AM |
They're cartoons. Redub the dialogue.
| by Anonymous | reply 78 | January 26, 2021 5:00 AM |
Weren't the crows in Dumbo actually the good guys or heroes of the story? They helped Dumbo. This cancel culture is getting ridiculous.
| by Anonymous | reply 79 | January 26, 2021 5:14 AM |
HEY KNEE-JERK DUMMIES!!
THE OP IS LYING and the headline of the article linked is semi-misleading.
The movies are merely moved from the all access Children's section of the app to the section where parents have to approve the choice to watch. There's also a disclaimer before the films. The article OP linked to explains it. NOTHING IS CANCELLED.
Others in the thread have pointed this out but a bunch of dummy reactionary commenters with no common sense or curiosity-for-info keep missing them nor did they click on the article. The idiocy is strong around here tonight.
| by Anonymous | reply 80 | January 26, 2021 8:31 AM |
I don’t see a problem with putting these films in the adult category or issuing a warning. I think changing Splash Mountain was pretty stupid. It was the cutest ride and people can find problems anywhere.
It is pretty insane to me that it’s fine to demean gays on tv and in movies all the time, but we have to worry about animated birds that were drawn 80 years ago.
| by Anonymous | reply 81 | January 26, 2021 12:52 PM |
THE RELUCTANT DRAGON and FERDINAND THE BULL wound femme gays in the portrayal of "sissy" dragons and bulls.
| by Anonymous | reply 82 | January 26, 2021 1:36 PM |
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Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 83 | January 26, 2021 2:15 PM |
What ethnicity are the pirates in Swiss family Robinson? I've never seen it.
| by Anonymous | reply 84 | January 26, 2021 3:00 PM |
When will dumb be cancelled?
| by Anonymous | reply 86 | January 29, 2021 3:26 PM |
