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Drag Race S14, Part Trois

Writer James Williams

I can’t stand not being able to comment on the fact that I’m so happy Deja and Jorgeous were auf’d!!! Lawd, Deja laughing at her own unfunny jokes was painful. I used to think Angeria would be F2 or 3, but I’m not sure, now. She’s got the delivery, just not the material.

by Anonymousreply 214May 21, 2022 12:03 AM

I know Ru adores Jorgeous and wants to take over her body so she can extend her own life, but it was getting increasingly difficult to watch her struggle through every single challenge. She could only rest on pretty for so long.

Thread Two became subscriber-only (which seems to happen when there are not enough people commenting on a thread that's getting longer and longer) at around reply 500. I've been coming to DL since Season 8 and I can't think of any other year where that's happened to one of the running RPDR threads. Not a great indication on DL's interest level for this season.

by Anonymousreply 1April 2, 2022 4:32 PM

This season seems never ending. I half expect Ru to bring back 4 bitches next week.

by Anonymousreply 2April 2, 2022 4:35 PM

I just started watching this season and watching episode 13 now. To me RuPaul seems to be enjoying himself more, he seems happier. Did he get a pay raise or what?

by Anonymousreply 3April 2, 2022 4:46 PM

R3 especially that one episode where he had a "coffee enema"

by Anonymousreply 4April 2, 2022 4:47 PM

A double elimination, thank goodness. They realized how absurd it was there were still 7 queens left this late in the season.

I laughed at how happy Jorgeous was to be eliminated, she was so ready for this to be over. She knows she doesn't have the talents you need to do these challenges.

by Anonymousreply 5April 2, 2022 6:56 PM

Is it really so fucking hard to pay a buck fifty for a couple of months' I am poor as it gets but it is fun to watch this shit with you bitches.

Anyway... I LOVE Lady Camden, and remember her from ages ago in SF, but my heart is with Willow Pill.

by Anonymousreply 6April 3, 2022 6:12 AM

Is this really Part 3 or is there another one? Hard to believe there isn't more chatter. Then again, perhaps we are over it.

by Anonymousreply 7April 3, 2022 8:27 AM

I think people are over it because it feels like this season has dragged on for six months.

by Anonymousreply 8April 4, 2022 1:02 AM

The seasons are usually 14 episodes long.

Friday night will be the 14th episode. Will it finally end then?

by Anonymousreply 9April 7, 2022 4:59 AM

Finally Drag Race is upping the prize money. I think this is overdue, it's been the same since season 4 I believe.

Winner is now getting 150k, and runner up gets 50k.

by Anonymousreply 10April 7, 2022 10:09 PM

According to IMDB, there are 16 episodes this season. If any season didn’t need an additional two episodes, it’s this one.

by Anonymousreply 12April 8, 2022 1:46 PM

This has been a good season of Drag Race r12, better than last season which I thought was a bit of a drag to get through personally. I mean when your runner up was freakin Kandy Muse that says a lot.

by Anonymousreply 13April 8, 2022 2:16 PM

It’s a good thing it didn’t have 16 episodes then, R13, hey?

by Anonymousreply 14April 8, 2022 2:20 PM

Ru really doesn't want to eliminate anyone this season. Fourteen episodes, and only 7 had real eliminations.

Now we are bringing freakin 5 contestants into the finale. Though the silver lining is that means an update to the current lip sync for the crown tournament.

by Anonymousreply 15April 9, 2022 4:26 AM

May as well make it a Final 13 next season.

Producers probably lost their shit at the prospect of an all-white final four and had to improvise.

Lady Camden is the clear winner of the season.

Daya gave the season some spice and gives great face in her performances. Was fun to watch here and in Moulin Rouge.

Willow is one-of-kind and really enjoyed her. Really liked her lipsync tonight.

Angie is meh but her runway outfit tonight was fab. The music video one was horrid.

Boo to Bosco. That was the outfit she designed? She never changed her eyebrows zzzzzzzz

by Anonymousreply 16April 9, 2022 5:45 AM

I don’t understand all of the gushing for Bosco’s runway look. It was hideous. The judges usually call out miles of nude fabric as a bad ice skating costume.

by Anonymousreply 17April 9, 2022 5:47 AM

They usually never talk down final outfits. Yeah her runway was shit: ill-fitted and cheap. And Willow’s was a damn choice. I’m surprised they even mentioned a peep of a criticism of it though.

by Anonymousreply 18April 9, 2022 6:00 AM

Damn, that Bosco aqua train looked cheap as hell. Hideous. Girl was clearly on a budget. For some reason I don't get they seem to love her.

Daya and Lady Camden were the only 2 who earned their spots in the finale tonight.

That lipsync fiasco in the bunny godmother get up and the black tulle concoction was a double sashay if ever there was one.

Luckily, there is Drag Race España airing arm because these US queens are not bringing it except for Daya and Camden.

by Anonymousreply 19April 9, 2022 6:17 AM

A top FIVE? Not this. I'm done.

At least we have Drag Race España!

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by Anonymousreply 20April 9, 2022 6:28 AM

There is absolutely no reason Bosco should be in the final five. Of all the seasons where we could have stuck around for hour long episodes and no one going home, it’s not 3-6 with the talented casts, just these entitled crybaby Gen Zers.

I think Angeria is underrated and Daya is fine because she’s a thorn in the side. So sick of the Willow overhype and I found it really rich when Ru said she hasn’t used her illness as a crutch when we’re always hearing how feeble she is and how close to death. Camden has been on every single since season. There is absolutely no originality there.

I vote Angeria for the win but we all know Ru crowned Willow by the end of the first episode. She’s pushing her so hard that I’m starting to get resentful.

by Anonymousreply 21April 9, 2022 10:44 AM

Strange, I don't agree with you at all about Willow, R21.

by Anonymousreply 22April 9, 2022 11:18 AM

Willow very obviously won the lipsync. But they had to keep Angeria in the game to have one POC in the finale. They could have easily avoided this situation by putting Bosco and Angeria in the bottom and sending Bosco home (we know lipsyncs are not Bosco's strong point). So this all smells like "keeping as many contestants around for as long as possible" - whatever purpose that serves. At this point, I wouldn't mind if Daya Betty takes the whole thing and gloats over everyone after being crowned.

by Anonymousreply 23April 9, 2022 11:26 AM

Daya is a TOP - a tall, horny TOP. I hope she wins.

by Anonymousreply 24April 9, 2022 11:28 AM

Daya has been constantly making horny comments all season, and she made sure to point out this episode she was a top r25.

by Anonymousreply 26April 9, 2022 1:59 PM

According to a post I saw on some Facebook page, this is Ru’s favorite season since season six. She liked all the queens a lot and was having trouble eliminating them so that’s why we have a top five. The post went on to say they think it’s Willow’s to lose because Ru likes her so much. It was a post in rupaul’s drag race family on April 9.

by Anonymousreply 27April 9, 2022 3:25 PM

The number of episodes is ordered by the network when the season starts filming. So this season was always going to have a lot of noneliminations to fulfill the episode order r27.

by Anonymousreply 28April 9, 2022 5:02 PM

Also in reality I think top 5 because they would have eliminated Angeria probably didn't want an all white finale if we are going to be honest.

by Anonymousreply 29April 9, 2022 5:06 PM

I really like Willow, but bitch this ain’t Rupaul’s Make A Wish Race. If it were based on performance or runway looks, Willow would have been gone halfway through the season.

by Anonymousreply 30April 9, 2022 5:14 PM

How would she be eliminated r30? Willow has done well in every challenge except for Snatch Game.

by Anonymousreply 31April 9, 2022 6:53 PM

Yeah Willow has been the most consistent out of all of them.

by Anonymousreply 32April 9, 2022 7:13 PM

Not really R31. That’s your opinion, but it’s certainly not mine. I’ll be happy for him if he wins, but it’s plainly obvious RuPaul is enamored with his story and spirit.

by Anonymousreply 33April 9, 2022 7:13 PM

I think Willow has been consistent, but consistently about 80%. She’s good, but you never really see her break away from her control. Everything is calculated, and as Ru pointed out with her dance steps last night, counted. I love Willow, but she needs a bit of Daya's personality. Last night, Angeria and Willow were definitely at the bottom, but they were still good. When Ru asks they had fun, I think that’s the key - you have fun when you lose your self control, which is what someone like Daya can do. I think Camden is a good balance between being technical and free-spirited. I’d still love to see Willow win, though.

by Anonymousreply 34April 9, 2022 7:21 PM

I thought their chat with Willow about not being a "victim" was so weird. I still don't get why they couldn't give her a pair of fucking scissors to open the boxes with.

by Anonymousreply 35April 9, 2022 7:57 PM

I'm sure they would have, if she asked r35. She never did.

by Anonymousreply 36April 9, 2022 8:05 PM

I’m Black, and I’m over Angeria. I know she was kept around so the final four wouldn’t be all white. Would anyone have cared? The last two winners have been black! It’s affirmative action and I don’t like it one bit.

Angeria is stunning, but we’ve seen this black pageant girl thing SOOOOOO many times. I’m over it. And she’s also a surprisingly bad performer. That lip synch was a double sashay. They both sucked. But I guess we’re not allowed to say that.

Willow is fresh and interesting but cannot perform at all. That’s not winner material. Angeria can’t dance. That’s not winner material. Daya’s look is too extreme and she has no versatility. That leaves Bosco, who isn’t as polished as Camden.

Camden can do it all and look incredible doing it. Camden for the win.

by Anonymousreply 37April 9, 2022 8:15 PM

Willow is not fresh. Her expiration date was Yvie 17, 2019.

by Anonymousreply 38April 9, 2022 8:18 PM

I don't want Willow to win for this alone.

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by Anonymousreply 39April 9, 2022 8:24 PM

R37 the last 3 winners have been black.

by Anonymousreply 40April 9, 2022 8:30 PM

Completely on board with Lady Camden winning this thing, especially since she's risen above my initial expectations of her being a late boot.

Angeria was always one of my top picks but, realistically, they're not going to crown another black pageant queen so soon after Jaida.

by Anonymousreply 42April 9, 2022 9:15 PM

Wait - Angeria is black? I thought she was East Indian or something like that.

by Anonymousreply 43April 9, 2022 9:17 PM

R43, you fuckin kidding me? With THAT country ass accent? That is a full, 100% Black queen from the SOUTH, honey.

by Anonymousreply 44April 9, 2022 10:38 PM

Shades of Jujube and Raven. So happy! But really hope Lady Camden gets this.

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by Anonymousreply 45April 9, 2022 11:45 PM

AKA the only time I've seen Raven show that kind of emotion.

by Anonymousreply 46April 9, 2022 11:46 PM

I can't find the full video. It was a great fucking ending though.

by Anonymousreply 47April 9, 2022 11:52 PM

Not the kind of cozy as above, but if we are talking "moments" this dance with Katya and Violet was so underrated. Not emotional, but so professional.

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by Anonymousreply 48April 9, 2022 11:58 PM

I don’t believe for one second that this is Ru’s favorite cast since season six. The added episode counts started last year. They’re doing what they did with The Biggest Loser and stretching out the patience of an audience to nurse a cheap reality hit.

I’ll agree that she’s weirdly fixated on Willow and there’s no way any one else is getting the crown. But Ru loves comedy and irony to love a cast who all fucked up Snatch Game.

by Anonymousreply 49April 10, 2022 2:27 AM

I think the queens were set up to fail in the Snatch Game. Yes, their performances were generally fairly poor but aren't they always? The judges stony silences and the brutal editing were deliberately exaggerated to make this Snatch Game fall flatter than usual. If you took away RuPaul's forced laughter and the sound effects a lot of the previous ones would have been just as woeful.

It was suspicious how in the workroom interviews beforehand RuPaul never suggested anyone try an alternative character choice. When was the last time [italic]that[/italic] happened? I think that was so RuPaul wouldn't have to share any of the blame for the coming (pre-planned) disaster.

by Anonymousreply 50April 10, 2022 10:38 AM

I don’t understand how Willow is Ru’s tribe. I mean, I get that Willow is odd and old-school drag with her performances, but has that ever been Ru?

by Anonymousreply 51April 10, 2022 1:56 PM

Ru started out as a weirdo punk rocker, R51. Willow is absolutely of that tribe.

by Anonymousreply 52April 10, 2022 2:41 PM

Pics of early Ru. I remember seeing Ru on some 90s all shows, but it’d be interesting to see more about her history.

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by Anonymousreply 53April 10, 2022 3:57 PM

Willow's mouse get up was a catastrophe, yet was not commented on. Lackluster looks all around. I also guffawed at Ru's "you haven't made it all about your illness" when the exact opposite is true. It all feels like a giant gaslighting.

by Anonymousreply 55April 10, 2022 4:52 PM

It is kind of sad watching Willow, knowing this competition is taking a lot of effort and energy. Even if Ru lets Willow win, she can bring back her other faves to compete on an all-stars.

by Anonymousreply 56April 10, 2022 7:59 PM

Or on Drag Race - Canarsie.

by Anonymousreply 57April 10, 2022 9:00 PM

“Very Jet Blue after dark”!

by Anonymousreply 58April 11, 2022 3:32 AM

R53 Good call. I'm surprised that there hasn't been a solid documentary done about Ru at this time of success in his life. I would of course want a warts and all (fracking, anyone?), but it's likely he would decline to participate if anything like that was going to be addressed. Likely, he would not let Michelle participate, and any other people in his inner circle.

That said, I'd rather watch historical/lost footage starting from WAY back in the day (I'm a footage hound), and current interviews with people who don't suck at Ru's teat. Bianca, anyone? Or those who have/had...difficult... friendships with Ru. Lady Bunny, anyone? As well as past participants who had the money to buy out of those ridiculous contracts. Fun fact: Trixie bought out ASAP, and only participates in Ru-connected projects when she gets paid instead of being "forced to" do it for free. Sweet fact, she paid to buy out Katya's contract too. Even when they were going through that shitty time.

Raven/David, who has been doing Ru's makeup for a while now, admittedly laughed at any contractual bullshit. I am guessing Ru didn't try to sue because Raven has a: talent; b: balls, c: knows all of the skinny and would spill it all at a single piss drop, and d: one of the few that can make Ru look good. That said, doubtful Raven would say fuck all, because it isn't worth it.

by Anonymousreply 59April 12, 2022 4:13 AM

R59 I would really want to know what went down with Mathu; even thought I have a 2nd hand account of it.

by Anonymousreply 60April 12, 2022 5:27 AM

r60 Didn't Willam spill on that or am I getting names mixed up? The story is on here somewhere. Here?

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by Anonymousreply 62April 12, 2022 5:42 AM

What happened with the music producer. Italian name?!

by Anonymousreply 63April 12, 2022 5:52 AM

William embellishes though. I wonder if his story jibes with the account I heard.

R63 Lucien P (?) plane?

by Anonymousreply 64April 12, 2022 6:00 AM

The Drag Race threads are really losing steam these days. No mention of the upcoming season of All Starts being an all winners version.

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by Anonymousreply 66April 14, 2022 4:44 AM

Shannel is getting to do Drag Race LIVE. I wonder if she is subbing for Asian? Shannel would be great as show host.

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by Anonymousreply 67April 14, 2022 5:57 AM

Lucian Piane went completely off the deep end a few years ago (went off on Instagram live and Twitter, called Ru the N-word, a whole bunch of other stuff) and has never recovered.

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by Anonymousreply 68April 14, 2022 5:59 AM

I always loved Shannel. Daya is giving me Shannel’s face this season (not Crystal) so I appreciate her.

R66 - no one cares because that all-winners looks shit. Ooo let’s crown Shea BORElee again. Fat Jinx? Pshaw. Monet? And that insufferable bitch Raja? 😑

If the cast included Tyra, Violet, Aquaria, and Bianca THEN we’d have something going on. I’m only pumped for the Vivienne and her Liverpudlian accent coming back.

by Anonymousreply 70April 15, 2022 2:39 PM

Anyone see their live shows? Is it worth it? Thinking of going to one but don’t want to spend $$ if they suck.

by Anonymousreply 71April 15, 2022 2:50 PM

When gon get NeNe Leakeses as judge? Then I be watchin

by Anonymousreply 72April 15, 2022 2:51 PM

Angeria rocking a trypophilia wig tonight.

And Willow pretty much confirming that she's joined "the Sisterhood of the Travelling Estrogen" (as Kerri coined it).

by Anonymousreply 73April 16, 2022 2:01 AM

Please don't let it be Daya. She tried to save herself in the reunion. Still don't like her. It's one thing to be competitive and want to win. What Daya doesn't understand it's really a personal best situation. She's a bad sportsman and came off badly the whole season. She was constantly harping on what other people are doing. Worry about yourself. All the while in that Crystal Method knock off make up. Make it stop!

I figured out what I really don't like about Daya though. She's pretty queeny as a boy right? But in drag she has no grace, no femininity. Does she even know how to move her hips? She clomps out there and does dumb poses. It's clowny. Meanwhile Angeria is like a pageant goddess giving us some illusion. The best ones know how to flirt with the camera a bit, how to walk, etc, etc. Daya's approach is too jokey... it's like she's a sarcastic queen. Not into it.

by Anonymousreply 74April 16, 2022 2:48 PM

Mary, it’s not going to be Daya. But your takes on hee are so pedestrian.

1. This show needs more catty gay bitches, not less.

2. Her makeup has not been Crystal Methyd for weeks now.

3. She is a giant ogress of a queen and knows it. Her aesthetic is rocker/butch. She’s never going to be ultra femme.

4. She sells her performances with her face. She was great as (again, Pink-esque) in Moulin Rouge.

5. She’s actually a gay man and not tranny down.

But you’ll get Willow as a winner because Drag Race loves sad stories (see: Monsoon, Jinkx). But Daya brought something fun to this season because the rest of the cast were pretty boring personalities.

by Anonymousreply 75April 16, 2022 3:07 PM

R75, my take isn't pedestrian. Let's try this again

1. Catty is fine. Bitchy is fine. But Daya's not even funny. She's bitter. Unattractive mean edge. 2. She still does a pursed Crystal Method lip and it looks dumb 3. You can be tall or big and still know how to glide. I don't need her to be ultra femme. Ok, I get it... rocker/butch. But why would I want a rocker/butch drag queen? 4. I think the other's sell with face better. Look closely what they each do at the camera at end of the reunion when ru says.. 'are you team X, or team Y....' 5. She's a gay man. Not expecting a woman, I'm expecting someone better at this.

by Anonymousreply 76April 16, 2022 3:19 PM

LEARN TO USE HARD RETURNS, BITCH!

by Anonymousreply 77April 16, 2022 3:24 PM

[quote]Let's try this again

Maybe you need to try one more time.

by Anonymousreply 78April 16, 2022 3:24 PM

Not really, since you have no comeback. You're right about the hard returns though LOL

by Anonymousreply 79April 16, 2022 3:26 PM

r76 Agree on Daya. She seem fixated on Jasmine if it was the edit or what. I thought her breakdown was fake as hell. She sat there saying I am not sorry for what I said just how I said it...then cried for being called out for what she said. 'I'm not that person" uhhhh yes you are.

by Anonymousreply 80April 16, 2022 3:36 PM

I totally agree with r76. I enjoy bitchy queens if they are at least self-deprecating and fun. And the idea that Jinkx won because she had a sad story is absurd. She was quite brilliant on her season. If they were giving it for sad story, that bitch Roxxxy would have won for being left at a bus stop!

by Anonymousreply 81April 16, 2022 3:36 PM

Daya is a bit mean or has a chip on her shoulder or something. But Jasmine kind of showed she’s the same way last night. I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt, but she’s annoying.

by Anonymousreply 82April 16, 2022 4:21 PM

Maybe Jasmine's annoying but she has some character to her. Daya might just need a little growing up. Daya's given weird anime character a few times. I don't know, I don't quite get it. Lady Camden in a white leisure suit and a mustache is more interesting. It felt almost drag king.

by Anonymousreply 83April 16, 2022 5:20 PM

Daya's ahead a slot or two for the drama

by Anonymousreply 84April 16, 2022 5:26 PM

I’ve seen the Vegas show. If you’re even a casual fan of the show, it’s a must. It is very, very, VERY good.

by Anonymousreply 85April 16, 2022 5:30 PM

At this point, I think it would be funny to see Daya take it. She brought some great television. I liked Angeria but she’s never gonna win. Willow is frustratingly calculated but Ru is lapping it all up. What a boring, uneventful season.

by Anonymousreply 86April 16, 2022 5:41 PM

I laughed out loud when Ru, at the beginning of yesterday's episode, called Season 14 "the most talked about season in Drag Race herstory".

Maddy showed more personality last night than at any point in the actual competition. Some funny reads and comments, especially when she called Ru 'heterophobic' by having her go through two design challenges so early in the season and eliminating her right before a Southern-themed challenge filled with fart jokes.

by Anonymousreply 87April 16, 2022 5:45 PM

[quote] She brought some great television

Is this really great television though. Low bar.

And the whole Vixen thing was better, more chaotic.

by Anonymousreply 88April 16, 2022 7:45 PM

A bitter drag queen should be 40+ and armed with some stories and scars.

by Anonymousreply 89April 16, 2022 7:46 PM

I think Daya is just a cunty gay man.

by Anonymousreply 90April 17, 2022 12:20 AM

"I think Daya is just a cunt."

Thre I fixed it for you

by Anonymousreply 91April 17, 2022 1:14 AM

R88, look, my Drag Race bar has been lowered very much. She wasn’t some nervous coward like Camden who didn’t want to say the wrong thing so she just spoke in safe cliches. She wasn’t sobbing into the mirror about how she wants a shenis. She wasn’t sobbing into a mirror about how she might die soon so she needs the crown ASAP.

She was an unfiltered cunt who didn’t hide her naked ambition under some zeitgeist-y bullshit. Her arc wasn’t nearly as satisfying as Vixen’s but it at least broke up an extremely tedious season.

by Anonymousreply 92April 17, 2022 3:39 AM

Not sure this season was so bad. Some of the musical numbers were entertaining. Camden's British, she's allowed to be polite. I just wanted Daya to be funnier.

by Anonymousreply 93April 17, 2022 3:50 AM

This season was good. Nothing more. Thank god Kandy's career went to the shitter. She's no longer on the Werk the World tour.

by Anonymousreply 94April 17, 2022 4:00 AM

I was surprised to find out about Daya's diabeetus, and wonder why she never brought it up earlier, but upon reflection, it would seem a blip compared to Willow's illness.

by Anonymousreply 95April 17, 2022 4:08 AM

She did bring it up, several times. It is why she's called Daya Betty. Daya-Bettic, get it?!?!

by Anonymousreply 96April 17, 2022 4:13 AM

oops, forgot to add at R96

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by Anonymousreply 97April 17, 2022 4:14 AM

I hope Daya wins. I’m glad someone gay isn’t putting on the show for white tweens for once.

by Anonymousreply 98April 17, 2022 4:33 AM

I don’t think Daya wins. It’s either Camden or Willow. I still think Willow wins, and the ones who should have - such as Camden - will get the chance to win All Stars.

by Anonymousreply 99April 17, 2022 4:42 PM

Daya is the worst of the top five easy.

by Anonymousreply 100April 17, 2022 5:40 PM

Camden and Angeria won each other. I think that is the cutest fucking pairing.

by Anonymousreply 101April 17, 2022 8:19 PM

I don't think they are actually dating r101.

by Anonymousreply 102April 17, 2022 8:25 PM

Have anyone other else noticed Camden’s stubby little short legs? When she kicken her toes almostly touches her chin. Wierd

by Anonymousreply 103April 19, 2022 12:30 AM

There’s no way in hell Camden wins, nor does she deserve it.

by Anonymousreply 104April 19, 2022 2:29 PM

Camden has done a great job this season, but Ru doesn't seem to be inspired by her.

Ru adores Willow, she would need to fuck it up to not be crowned.

by Anonymousreply 105April 19, 2022 3:06 PM

I think Camden is the most diverse and talented of the five, but this really is Willow’s to lose.

by Anonymousreply 107April 19, 2022 11:13 PM

I think Camden needed time to blossom. That reunion I kept looking at her going "is that ivy winters?"

by Anonymousreply 108April 20, 2022 12:34 AM

Ginger is now joining the cast at the Vegas show. Good for her! She really deserves to be there!

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by Anonymousreply 109April 20, 2022 12:53 AM

Amazing how transanity has become a social contagion. Just because advances in plastic surgery and fillers can help with the lie, doesn’t make it true. These are some fucked up people

by Anonymousreply 110April 20, 2022 5:49 AM

I am sure many of them will quietly change their minds, unless they've built it on the shoulders of the T. Like Sonique/Kylie/Plastic Muppet Face.

by Anonymousreply 111April 20, 2022 2:08 PM

Also rans do pretty well not winning, so Lady Camden will do just fine, as long as she moves out of Sacramento. She's made for touring.

by Anonymousreply 112April 20, 2022 4:37 PM

Lady Camden reminds me of my partner, who was quite the flashy twink in his day. He did rock and roll, rather than drag, and I met him when he was already no longer that young thing. We've been happy for 22 years.

He's going to make some guy a great husband.

by Anonymousreply 113April 20, 2022 5:27 PM

Where’s my girrrlllsss!!

by Anonymousreply 114April 23, 2022 1:44 AM

I like Camden. She can be charming, and she grew on me throughout the season. I’d be fine if she wins, but I think it goes to Willow.

by Anonymousreply 115April 23, 2022 2:03 AM

I thought Willow’s number was one of the weakest. Daya’s was probably the worst.

by Anonymousreply 116April 23, 2022 2:06 AM

I am rewarding a queen whose life expectancy will not be affected by my fracking the fuck out of my real estate.

- RuPaul

by Anonymousreply 118April 23, 2022 2:15 AM

I'm good with any of the top five winning as long as Kandy still gets zero screen time.

by Anonymousreply 119April 23, 2022 2:17 AM

I am happy with whomever wins...I love them both!! They are both so talented!! Naomi is a judge on All Stars!!!

by Anonymousreply 120April 23, 2022 2:25 AM

My DVR stopped recording after the first performance! Can't figure out how to see it on repeat...streaming or otherwise. Ugh!

by Anonymousreply 122April 23, 2022 2:32 AM

r121, Campbell....I can't believe it!!! Didn't you see the promo for All Stars?

by Anonymousreply 123April 23, 2022 2:38 AM

And no one is shocked at the winner.

Rupaul was ready to crown her after the talent show. I'm good with the choice, probably the most unqiue energy of the finalist.

by Anonymousreply 124April 23, 2022 2:43 AM

All Stars Promo....Nancy Pelosi too! The Winners season looks good!

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by Anonymousreply 125April 23, 2022 2:50 AM

Haven’t watched yet, r124.

But now I know. You can be black or trans. But the way to Ru’s heart is an incurable disease.

by Anonymousreply 126April 23, 2022 2:50 AM

All stars to only stream on Paramount+? Cameron Diaz is going to be a guest!!

by Anonymousreply 127April 23, 2022 3:20 AM

For all the flaws of this franchise, they did find two worthy winners in Symone and Willow. They were both my early favorites. The both have “it”.

by Anonymousreply 128April 23, 2022 4:09 AM

Agreed, R128. Symone is probably my all time favorite (granted I've only seen four seasons) and Willow is right behind her.

by Anonymousreply 129April 23, 2022 7:09 AM

That was by far the best finale of a Drag Race season. I was cheering out loud when Camden and Willow made it to the top two. And as much as I love Lady Camden, I’m so happy for Willow Pill. I’m a Denverite so now we have two winners! Jumping up and down with joy for Willow and I can’t wait for a big homecoming celebration!

And kudos to Daya Betty! I’m glad she didn’t make the top 2, but the movement on that outfit, with the tentacles? That looked like some Avatar-level special effects. All the entrance costumes blew me away. God this must have cost a fortune for these queens.

And my response to “how are you doing?” will from now on be “I don’t see how that’s any of your business!”

Mary!

by Anonymousreply 130April 23, 2022 7:38 AM

What a shit finale. Shit Miss Congeniality…why can’t we vote again for fan favorite? Why is it now Favorite Backstage Black? Shit Final Two. Shit final lip sync. Willow has zero stage presence and Camden, who spent the whole season recycling other queen’s acts, plagiarized her own overrated main stage stunt.

Boring winner. Yawn. It’s obvious they changed the rules because they wanted her to win and knew she could lose in a lip sync.

by Anonymousreply 131April 23, 2022 11:15 AM

Ok, Daya, we know you mad.

by Anonymousreply 132April 23, 2022 12:01 PM

lol what’s the point of a Final 5 if you’re just going to go “meh it my Final 2”

Just boot these bitches in the main show

Those Drag Race produced tracks they make them sing have always sucked and not a one of them was good.

Zzzzzzzzz finale, but we knew Willow was winning. Drag Race winners are pretty perfunctory nowadays since Symone, Krystal Versace, Lawrence Cheney, and Willow Pill we’re telegraphed from high heaven

Now they can all be slaves to World of Wonder

by Anonymousreply 133April 23, 2022 1:56 PM

Throw Willow Pill on the stack of forgettable Drag Race winners like Yvie and Aquaria who were reduced to doing chorus work on bus and truck tours months after getting the crown.

The audience for watching Willow pout and pop her hips as a headliner is pretty much non existent.

by Anonymousreply 134April 23, 2022 2:18 PM

Hopefully Lady Camden does an all stars season.

by Anonymousreply 135April 23, 2022 3:18 PM

Who cares, R135? She’ll bring nothing new to the table. We get four of her every year on All Stars already.

by Anonymousreply 136April 23, 2022 3:21 PM

S P O I L E R

At least Camden got a chunk of change

by Anonymousreply 137April 23, 2022 3:31 PM

Ah sorry for the "Spoiler", the feed wasn't updating.

by Anonymousreply 138April 23, 2022 3:35 PM

I think Willow was one of the most unique queens in Drag Race history. The spaghetti toaster bathtub performance? The latex lips and cheeks look? Her performance of “I Hate People”?!

She posted a very sad Instagram about how one of her sisters (obviously not the one in the audience) died shortly after filming of cystinosis and kidney failure, the same genetic disorder Willow has. Willow may not be around much longer (so don’t hesitate to see her if she comes to your town and you’re so inclined-you may not have another chance). She’s probably going to be the epitome of “shined bright, lost too soon”.

by Anonymousreply 139April 23, 2022 3:53 PM

I already gave that story line!

- Sahara Davenport, shooting up in hell

by Anonymousreply 140April 23, 2022 4:40 PM

Willow is not worthy. She was barely good. Ironic and sly and calculating, yes. How does she burn brightly? She can barely move on stage. He kind of creeps me out to be honest. Make a Wish!

It was a nice glitzy finale, but a very boring bunch of contestants. What in the hell happened to Angeria along the way? She had so much to offer - but could barely lip synch in the finale!

Daya is really the only one who stands out, for some right and wrong reasons. But there's life in that one. Her performance energy and eat em up facial expressions are enjoyable. I guess a bitch can never win the crown again - unless Raja wins the All Winners Season...

Those individual songs were atrocious. The ones given Ginger, Violet and Pearl in season 7 were much better written and customized to the performer. That's a large reason why Violet won. That season WAS undecided until the last minute. Well, it was Gingers all the way - until the shows aired.....

Season 14 was totally forgettable. The Mighty Wind and MoulinRu were OK. Not one great runway. Angeria is the only one who had ALL the qualities to win - but she lost herself somewhere being everybody's friend.

I'm glad Cornbread won. Tells you how much the other queens love her. They stopped letting the at home audience vote for Miss Congeniality after the Loathed By The Cast Valentina won it! Now that season had a hell of a cast and a fucking REUNION to remember.

P.S. Aquaria is not a failure of a winner? Hell no. Don't tell lies.

Bob did clearly state this week that he was NOT invited to be part of the All Star Winners Season. Ha. Good.

Neither were Bianca, Aquaria and Alaska. Not because they aren't popular or very successful. Because RuPaul is petty.

by Anonymousreply 141April 23, 2022 7:38 PM

I have a feeling that a lot of Willow’s stories are exaggerated like fellow Drag Race compulsive liars Miz Cracker and Robbie Turnter.

Willow will out live us all, trust me.

by Anonymousreply 142April 23, 2022 7:53 PM

Willow was a decent winner but would be crushed in an all star winners season.

by Anonymousreply 143April 23, 2022 7:56 PM

R142, I don’t think so. Her sister just died of the same genetic disorder.

by Anonymousreply 144April 23, 2022 8:03 PM

Is Willow the first drag daughter to win from a previous Winner? (Yvie Oddly)

by Anonymousreply 145April 23, 2022 8:07 PM

Aquaria was Sharon Needles drag daughter.

When Willow first walked in, I thought “first one out the door”.

But I love her so much because she’s weird in the perfect way.

by Anonymousreply 146April 23, 2022 8:22 PM

r148 oh yeah I forgot that.

by Anonymousreply 147April 23, 2022 8:25 PM

Miz Cracker is BoB's drag daughter which makes perfect sense because both of them are obnoxious, thin skinned and nowhere near as funny or talented as they imagine.

by Anonymousreply 148April 23, 2022 8:30 PM

Oscar Isaac showed up at a Brooklyn gay bar last night to watch this.

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by Anonymousreply 149April 23, 2022 9:09 PM

Naomi Smalls is so hardcore, as in hard to like. But she serves the realness and her truth. She's a Willow stan who feels that Campden won the lip sync. Same.

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by Anonymousreply 150April 23, 2022 10:30 PM

Daya copies Violet's look. I like her but guuuurl.

Good with Willow and Corn winning.

The finale was good nothing more.

The only interesting thing about the finale was there were few alum {that don't already live and work in Vegas} in the room. LA is a main hub for drag so it's not that far from Vegas. Most of the audience looked to be fat straight chicks with their fat oafs in tow. That is the demographic now. Sad.

by Anonymousreply 151April 24, 2022 12:17 AM

^ I noticed that too. Gigi Goode was there - but she's had full facial feminization surgery. Trans +

Kerri Colby should be the international spokeswoman for Trans women. No only because she's gorgeous but she's kind and wise and evolved too. I believe in her journey and truth.

Willow, Kornbread, Bosco, Jasmine and Gigi - not so much.

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by Anonymousreply 152April 24, 2022 12:28 AM

My husband went to the Drag Race show in Vegas and said it was all fat fraus in the audience.

by Anonymousreply 153April 24, 2022 12:46 AM

R153 - your husband shouldn’t refer to himself as a frau.

by Anonymousreply 154April 24, 2022 1:00 AM

I enjoy watching this show, but after that segment last night I can’t imagine going to see the Vegas show.

by Anonymousreply 155April 24, 2022 3:44 AM

I’ve posted this before: the Vegas show is great. It is a SHOW. With tons of GREAT dancing by Kameron Michael’s. Well worth making it to see

by Anonymousreply 156April 24, 2022 4:55 AM

Does anyone else the audience reactions shots? A queen says something only slightly funny or snappy and you see gays in the audience waving their hands in the air, doing snaps, woo-ing and practically jumping out of their seats. As for the finale itself, what are the thoughts of Willow's outfit at the start of the lip sync. I thought it was derivative of one of her earlier looks where she used the giant elongated hands. Even the reveal was okay, nothing great. And she seemed to spend the first few minutes of the lip sync just standing in place while Lady Camden was using the stage.. But as others have noted, the winner was clearly announced at the start of the season.

by Anonymousreply 157April 24, 2022 5:07 AM

I did not like the fact that Lady Camden repeated her falling down/wig change stunt. Also her costume change was somewhat messy and too slow. But otherwise she would have been a worthy winner. I didn't realize how tiny she is. Standing next to Rupaul she looked like a wee person.

by Anonymousreply 158April 24, 2022 8:26 AM

R156 is clearly Kameron Michaels

by Anonymousreply 159April 24, 2022 11:46 AM

Yeah, Kameron Michaels is no one's favorite. Not even Kameron's.

I had a hard time telling who any of the queens were from the revue. They all have done so much to their faces, and are all older, and have lost the excess from the dancing, so their bodies look more male.

by Anonymousreply 160April 24, 2022 1:13 PM

R160, the only queen I recognized was Naomi due to her longs legs. I had no idea who was in the revue...their faces have gone under too much reconstruction.

by Anonymousreply 161April 24, 2022 2:26 PM

Sorry I had a quick flashback of Derrick Barry...

by Anonymousreply 162April 24, 2022 2:29 PM

Yeah, these queens are attracted to fillers and Botox like flies to shit.

by Anonymousreply 163April 24, 2022 3:00 PM

I must have that song Willow performed to: I Hate People

by Anonymousreply 165April 24, 2022 7:42 PM

[quote] a very sad Instagram about how one of her sisters (obviously not the one in the audience) died shortly after filming of cystinosis

You’d think her parents would have STOPPED MAKING BABIES after the first one was born with a congenital deadly disease.

by Anonymousreply 166April 24, 2022 7:44 PM

If the outcome hadn't already been decided months ago, I'm sure that Willow would have snuck in the tragic story of his dead sister into The Reunion.

I just don't like Willow - he's dark sided. And he's not trans.

by Anonymousreply 167April 24, 2022 8:15 PM

R160, same. The only one I was sure of was Kameron Michaels. The rest I was like “is that..Vanjie? Did I see Naomi Smalls? Ok, I’ve definitely never seen her before and don’t think she was even on the show!”

by Anonymousreply 168April 24, 2022 8:34 PM

Vanjie is all about fillers and Botox. He's fucking up is handsome face. WOW!

Kahanna Montrese { who was on stage at the finale } it's a totally different looking person now. Again, another very handsome guy before fucking shit up!

by Anonymousreply 169April 24, 2022 8:56 PM

Naomi is doing her makeup differently too, and I don't like it.

by Anonymousreply 170April 24, 2022 8:57 PM

Even on the Werk the World Tour mini documentary they did - Kameron was without personality, humor or interest. He tries to avoid camera time or saying anything - because he is monumentally dumb.

Vanjie, Yvie, Kennedy and Aquaria are all a lot of fun it seems. Even Violet was fun when she's in the mood. Kim Chi does not want to be seen out of drag. He's bald and HUGE. Of course Asia is mother to them all and is the serious and bossy one. Professional. And they ALL love and revere Kennedy as a person and a performer.

by Anonymousreply 171April 24, 2022 9:07 PM

R165 - I tried finding it, but couldn’t.

by Anonymousreply 172April 24, 2022 10:14 PM

Daya is probably a good top for a drag queen.

Works harder bc of baldness. And tall and thick.

by Anonymousreply 173April 25, 2022 1:34 AM

Stop drinking and posting, Daya.

by Anonymousreply 174April 25, 2022 1:48 AM

Jaida did the red carpet interviews for the finale and when she asked Daya what was the "gayest" thing that happened on Season 14.....Daya said ALWAYS staring at Lady Camden's ASS when he takes off his tights! So there's some top in Daya for sure. Why would all Drag Queens been bottoms? Jaida isn't.....

Jaida looks phenomenal with no surgical alterations. He's a super cute guy too. Pretty funny when he and Gigi can't decide if the correct word is biased or unbiased?

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by Anonymousreply 175April 25, 2022 2:19 AM

Has anyone paid for the meet and greet for RuPaul Drag Race Live? If so what was it like? I imagine it is pretty crowded since it not that much more.

by Anonymousreply 176April 25, 2022 2:27 AM

[quote] Has anyone paid for the meet and greet for RuPaul Drag Race Live? If so what was it like? I imagine it is pretty crowded since it not that much more

You wait in a long line, you finally get to the front and find out your meet and greet queen is Serena Chacha, they snap a quick photo of you looking disappointed and then they shout “Ok, now sashay away! SASHAY AWAY! YOU! I SAID MOVE IT! NEXT!”

by Anonymousreply 177April 25, 2022 6:46 AM

Drag Race winner Willow Pill might ‘phase out of drag’

Drag Race season 14 winner Willow Pill says they may “phase a little bit out” of drag and get into acting.

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by Anonymousreply 178April 26, 2022 4:50 AM

I can't stand willow pill. He's a sly sick boy. Take the pity and run.

by Anonymousreply 179April 26, 2022 5:08 AM

LOL, R178. Calculated little Willow Pill. That’s one of the reasons Drag Race sucks now. It’s not people who love drag, it’s people who want to be famous. Now it’s just failed actors trying to rebrand themselves. Then they do a male character for Snatch Game with some halfhearted excuse about how there’s no gender binary in drag, but really they want to get an agent for male leads.

The awkward truth is that he’s uncomfortable to look at out of Drag. I don’t see a lot of on camera work in his future.

by Anonymousreply 180April 26, 2022 2:57 PM

But isn't Willow transitioning to F?

by Anonymousreply 181April 26, 2022 3:05 PM

No. She’s transitioning to “FUCK OFF RUPAUL”

by Anonymousreply 182April 26, 2022 3:06 PM

I thought she was transitioning to dead.

by Anonymousreply 183April 26, 2022 3:33 PM

Meet and Greets are dumb. A waste of money for people who are determined that they *have* to get their selfie with a queen.

by Anonymousreply 184April 26, 2022 4:26 PM

Drag Race is starting to groan under the weight of over saturation. This season was "meh" and I think like the last couple seasons burdened by too many episodes. 16 episodes is too many, they need to go back to 10 or 12. I really miss the days when it was a year between any seasons.

by Anonymousreply 185April 26, 2022 4:49 PM

Do you "Ru" the day, R185?

by Anonymousreply 186April 26, 2022 5:03 PM

Unfortunately, others don’t agree R185. Drag Race breaks viewer records with every season. The reason they do more and more is because viewers flock to it and they continue to gain audience, not lose like every other reality show out there. They’re making money hand over fist and that’s not even talking about the international franchises. Make hay while the sun shines, and all that.

by Anonymousreply 187April 26, 2022 5:51 PM

You all can go frack yourselves.

by Anonymousreply 188April 26, 2022 5:54 PM

I’m growing very tired of the same challenges (a roast, snatch game, a rusical, a tv show, a make shit out of garbage sewing challenge) every year and wish they could come up with new ones. That said, the Daytona Wind, and Moulin Ru were probably the best examples in the series so far.

I love Willow “Widdle” Pill. I keep rewatching “I hate People” and the final lip sync. There’s something about her performance in the final lip sync, the purple sleeves and swimsuit, the way she moves her shoulders that very much reminded me of Prince’s protégée Vanity. She’s a nasty girl! (and I ❤️ her!)

by Anonymousreply 189April 26, 2022 7:51 PM

R185 the thing is if they actually booted the bitches it would not have felt so long.

Which they COULD HAVE DONE since Ru had a “final five” and then was like “lol final 2” at the end. Just boot them on the regular show.

by Anonymousreply 190April 26, 2022 7:54 PM

Ru is always prolonging and promoting undeserving girls to the final now - building up their exposure for future all stars contestants.

Like Bosco? Come on. Aren't you fucking bored of Bosco? I don't ever want to see her again. But we will. And Jasmine and Daya and Angeria and Lady Camden too.

by Anonymousreply 191April 26, 2022 8:20 PM

The original concept for Drag Race was more like Project Runway. Ru pitched the idea after being a judge on it. Each drag queen would be paired up with a designer and they would work to construct a new look each week. He literally pitched a copy of Project Runway after being on Project Runway. Then they decided to rip off America's next top model instead.

by Anonymousreply 192April 26, 2022 8:47 PM

To be fair, in the early seasons they ripped off both r192.

by Anonymousreply 193April 26, 2022 9:10 PM

Neely O’Hara is guest judging All-Stars!

by Anonymousreply 194April 27, 2022 4:20 PM

Did they dig up Patty Duke's corpse, R194?

by Anonymousreply 195April 27, 2022 5:39 PM

Cornbread announced she's no longer doing drag.

by Anonymousreply 196April 27, 2022 9:41 PM

She said she is thinking of stopping after a few years r196. Not quit the same clickbaity statement.

by Anonymousreply 197April 27, 2022 11:44 PM

No, Cornbread said at Roscoes' that she would be stepping away from doing drag because she wants to focus on her transition and hormones and some surgeries. She said she would be present at some events. I think this is why she wasn't automatically brought back for another season. She declined.

As someone noted upthread, Drag Race has always been a haven and chance for success for failed actors, comics and theatre kids. More recently it has become trans central station. Where Drag Race fans learn to halfway perform because they want money and sponsors and private donors to make their dreams of becoming a woman come true. And the worldwide online support that dainty, perverse and virtually talentless Willow Pill received.

The only accomplished Drag Queen on Season 14 was Lady Camden. And she should have won.

by Anonymousreply 198April 28, 2022 5:02 AM

[quote]And the worldwide online support that dainty, perverse and virtually talentless Willow Pill received

That’s terrible! Ly true. But I love Willow still because she’s dainty and perverse.

by Anonymousreply 199April 28, 2022 7:21 AM

[quote]Like Bosco? Come on. Aren't you fucking bored of Bosco?

I loved Bosco and thought of all the queens, she was the one I’d most like to hang out with. In the confessionals when she said (basically) “I don’t want to do this lipsync because Rupaul must be signed up to be an organ donor for Jorgeous, that’s how much she loves her” was a classic.

by Anonymousreply 200April 29, 2022 9:17 PM

So what? Does that mean Kornbread is going to be a trans actress now? Good look. There are plenty of obese black women already competing for roles. The difference is they have talent beyond a shriveled Frankenstein dick taped to their leg.

by Anonymousreply 201April 29, 2022 10:15 PM

There's already a terrible black trans actress, Lavern Cox. I guess Kornbread can do the roles Lavern is too thin and too old to play.

by Anonymousreply 202April 29, 2022 10:25 PM

Gabourey Sidibe will cut a bitch who takes her roles… and rolls…

by Anonymousreply 203April 29, 2022 10:43 PM

I love how Thorgy and Bob opened Purse First by saying that to win Drag Race you need to be a queen from Denver with a terrifying autoimmune disorder and ONE challenge WIN and be up against a highly trained ballet dancer and great performer with THREE challenge wins! Mercy.

But seriously internet folk - they love willow pill. Not really.....

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by Anonymousreply 204April 29, 2022 10:46 PM

Kelly Clarkson gets some negative shit posted about her on Datalounge, but she treated these queens as individuals and kept the ball rolling. She does her homework. They all had moments to shine and unlike Andy Cohen or Colbert - Kelly doesn't use Drag Race queens as props. They are her guests. She knows their names and riffs off the responses. I love Kelly as a singer, she's a bit frantic as a host. Still this is a nice spot. All Stars All Winners Season can't lose. Rumor is that Yvie, Jaida and Jinkx do very well....

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by Anonymousreply 205April 30, 2022 6:04 AM

We’ve really created a culture where men don’t want to be men. Why? How?

by Anonymousreply 206May 2, 2022 5:30 PM

Superficially, they're more attractive as a "woman" than a man. Probably get better looking guys dressed up as a woman too.

by Anonymousreply 208May 4, 2022 4:45 PM

Well not only that R208. Most drag queens are failed theatre kids, actors or dancers. Graphic artists or terrible singers like Trixie. Alaska, BoB, Trixie, Jinkx or Willow Pill would never succeed as their male selves with existing talents. Bob tried HARD. He don't like being a drag queen. But it was his ticket to attention and eventual fame. Drag Race alumni make money, honey. Even the non superstars like Pandora Box or Trinity K Bonet. There have been a number of workroom and interview discussion about how being in DRAG makes many of them feel more powerful and confident. Stands to reason. Not too many rent boys go into Drag, but a hell of a lot of streetwalker trannies did.

Bianca, Violet, Miss Fame and Raja and especially Shangela would have been successful as males in their chosen careers. Comedy, fashion, acting. But nowhere near as famous or powerful or RICH as they are as Drag Queens.

Jinkx and Jan and Alexis Michelle are only "Broadway" queens because they dress us as them.

by Anonymousreply 209May 4, 2022 10:18 PM

Is there an All Stars 7 thread? I'm not finding one via search.

by Anonymousreply 211May 20, 2022 11:52 PM

Correction. There is, in fact, one already. So go here.

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by Anonymousreply 214May 21, 2022 12:03 AM