Do you think Michael Jackson was a pedophile?
William Jenkins 
Everybody knew because it was right under their noses and there's far too much evidence.
Jackson was a lecherous pedophile who raped a string of little boys over a long period of time and destroyed countless lives. The entire Jackson family knew what was going on but didn't want to do anything to interrupt their cash cow.
All of them are disgusting human beings.
| by Anonymous | reply 1 | June 15, 2023 11:33 AM |
He had typical pedo tactics - surround himself with kids, befriend them, create attractions for them. Not to mention those suspect books found at his place and the accusations.
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | June 15, 2023 11:50 AM |
Yet people still deny this ever happened. All lies! And they adore him.
| by Anonymous | reply 3 | June 15, 2023 1:29 PM |
Practically all black people still idolise this freak, just like they did OJ Simpson.
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | June 15, 2023 7:47 PM |
R4 - way to generalize. Damn.
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | June 15, 2023 8:22 PM |
No I swear he never touched me or any of those other boys that were always hanging around.
| by Anonymous | reply 6 | June 15, 2023 8:40 PM |
Yes, he obviously groomed boys.
Why does he still get radio play? I like a couple songs but can’t listen to a pedo
| by Anonymous | reply 7 | June 15, 2023 10:43 PM |
R4
I don't and I know plenty of other Black people who think MJ was a pedophile and knew at the time of the trial that OJ was a murderer.
| by Anonymous | reply 8 | June 15, 2023 10:47 PM |
Is the Pope [italic] Catholic ?
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | June 15, 2023 10:49 PM |
He was abused himself as a child and his family did nothing to stop it.
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | June 15, 2023 10:52 PM |
Agree that MJ was abused but he also became a monster, abusing other boys. He doesn't get a license.
I still enjoy some of his music, separate the art from the artist.
| by Anonymous | reply 11 | June 15, 2023 11:18 PM |
i wont watch the documentaries. but there were elements that never made it as evidence in the trial or reported in the media that are pretty damning. im not going to describe what he was into but apparently there were specific similarities to the victims' stories in terms of what got MJ off.
Any adult who builds an angled hallway to their bedroom which obscures the view of the room and then has alarms placed in that hallway just might be up to something.
| by Anonymous | reply 12 | June 15, 2023 11:22 PM |
Jacko spent $200m paying off young boys who accused him of molesting them. Had he been white, nobody would be supporting him in 2023.
| by Anonymous | reply 15 | June 16, 2023 4:58 AM |
King of Pop, King of Pedos.
| by Anonymous | reply 16 | June 17, 2023 1:01 PM |
[quote]Why does he still get radio play? I like a couple songs but can’t listen to a pedo
Same here R7. If any of his music comes on the radio when I'm driving I immediately change the station. Repulsive. Goddamnit about Thriller. It was one of the best songs of the eighties and is a masterpiece.
| by Anonymous | reply 17 | June 17, 2023 1:05 PM |
Where there’s smoke… in this case it was a forest fire of paid off families.
| by Anonymous | reply 18 | June 17, 2023 1:07 PM |
R15 I 100% think that Michael Jackson was a pedo, but I didn’t think the pay offs amounted to $200m.
| by Anonymous | reply 19 | June 17, 2023 1:23 PM |
I believe MC was not only molested by MJ but is also the biological father of Paris Jackson.
| by Anonymous | reply 20 | June 17, 2023 2:10 PM |
I think he was smart enough to keep his hands off the sons of important people, like Sean Lennon. But I could be stupid here.
| by Anonymous | reply 21 | June 17, 2023 6:12 PM |
The part that tips me over is the tape that Safechuck payed on Oprah's show. He had taken Safechuck on a trip somewhere (maybe Disney?). On the flight back, they played with a tape recorder Jackson had gifted Safechuck. Safechuck pretended to interview Jackson and asked him what his favorite part of the day had been. Jackson replied, "being with you". It sounds like he was in love with the kid. Otherwise his favorite part of the day would have been one of the many park rides or entertainment features.
| by Anonymous | reply 22 | June 17, 2023 6:19 PM |
100%, though I'm not that vocal about it because I know otherwise sane people who are in total denial about it. It's crazy how people will throw away everything they preach about believing victims just because someone's a good entertainer.
And I mean, MJ was so OBVIOUS about it. He creates a whole mythical kiddy land, separates boys from their parents for private sleepovers, and you want to sell me some bullshit about "oh, it's because he didn't have a childhood?" That's Disney movie logic. This is real life.
| by Anonymous | reply 23 | June 17, 2023 7:12 PM |
He walked around in public holding hands with 9yo boys while on tour in the early 90s. A little boy who travelled with him that he wasn’t related to. A different boy each tour.
A piece of shit who is now rotting in hell.
| by Anonymous | reply 24 | June 17, 2023 7:22 PM |
[QUOTE] believe MC was not only molested by MJ but is also the biological father of Paris Jackson.
MJ fathered a blue eyed kid with straight blonde hair and white skin? 🤣🤣 Have you forgotten his original colour? His kids with a white woman would have looked like Kylie Jenner's kids.
| by Anonymous | reply 25 | June 19, 2023 12:51 AM |
R23 Most child stars didn't have childhoods, but I cannot name another that acted remotely like Jackson, even ones with worse childhoods.
| by Anonymous | reply 26 | June 19, 2023 12:59 AM |
MJ was a textbook case of a pedophile, except on a very grand scale. He had all the typical behaviors. There was a reason Neverland was in the middle of nowhere, with no neighbors around.
Think about it this way: If there were a 40 year-old man who lived in your neighborhood and he invited the little boys in the neighborhood over to his house to watch movies, play video games and have sleepovers, any sane person would consider this extremely abnormal behavior, and quite concerning. And the parents of those boys would be calling the cops in two seconds.
Michael Jackson was exactly the same as that hypothetical man who could live in your neighborhood, except he got away with it because people were blinded by his fame and celebrity.
Just because someone is famous and a great entertainer doesn't mean they can't be criminally insane.
| by Anonymous | reply 27 | June 19, 2023 1:16 AM |
Does Rose Kennedy own a black dress?
| by Anonymous | reply 28 | June 19, 2023 1:19 AM |
His music wasn't even any good.
| by Anonymous | reply 29 | June 19, 2023 1:21 AM |
Is water wet? Is the Pope Catholic? Does Bradley Cooper suck cock?
| by Anonymous | reply 30 | June 19, 2023 1:26 AM |
[quote]Why does he still get radio play? I like a couple songs but can’t listen to a pedo
I cant either - I was digitising my old 45s from the 70s and I found two or three records (Jacksons and solo) and I can't bear to listen to them.
That documentary with the abused boys, now adults, seriously upset me at the time. It was TERRIBLE to hear the details.
| by Anonymous | reply 31 | June 19, 2023 1:29 AM |
Either a pedophile or severely autistic. Maybe a bit of both. Also the "no childhood" is not an excuse, "childhood" is a Western middle-class concept that didn't exist prior to the Victorian era and most African-American kids were working already and didn't have that same luxury as their white peers when Michael Jackson was young. In poor parts of Europe, Asia and Africa, kids will work after school to help their families and are treated like little adults. Most do not grow up wanting to remain kids forever or try to lure other kids to stay over their houses. In fact, many can't wait to grow up and have the freedom of adulthood.
| by Anonymous | reply 32 | June 19, 2023 1:31 AM |
[quote]Either a pedophile or severely autistic. Maybe a bit of both.
A bit?
| by Anonymous | reply 33 | June 19, 2023 1:32 AM |
Neverland was a pedophile's dream property - an amusement park, a petting zoo, a train, an arcade, etc.
What normal adult man would have a property like that?
| by Anonymous | reply 34 | June 19, 2023 1:33 AM |
I was never that keen on him - when everyone was wetting their knickers over him at the beginning of MTV.
| by Anonymous | reply 35 | June 19, 2023 1:35 AM |
[quote]The entire Jackson family knew what was going on but didn't want to do anything to interrupt their cash cow. All of them are disgusting human beings.
This x 1000.
| by Anonymous | reply 36 | June 19, 2023 1:37 AM |
I hate the 80s. Him & GHASTLY Madonna the biggest stars. It was really the decline of pop music.
| by Anonymous | reply 37 | June 19, 2023 1:38 AM |
R25, the poster you quoted is saying that Macaulay Culkin is the father of Paris Jackson. You misunderstood.
| by Anonymous | reply 38 | June 19, 2023 1:40 AM |
I don't understand Lisa Marie Presley's angle in marrying and publicly bearding for this freak. What was her game?
| by Anonymous | reply 39 | June 19, 2023 1:41 AM |
Lets look at some of the facts: His home found various images that could be considered either child porn or “art” depending on your interpretation. He slept in the same bed as children, behind locked doors that also had a built in alarm system to alert him when people were coming. He took children on “dates” to various events. Children were able to accurately describe his penis. He continued to sleep in the same bed as children even AFTER being accused of pedophile. He built a home that would be considered paradise to children, including with rides, games and a zoo. This are all facts.
You have to ask yourself what is more likely.
1. He was a groomer who carefully curated an image of being an eccentric but harmless weirdo so he could have access to children.
2. He is innocent like a child and has no evil in his heart.
The first one has happened all throughout history. The second one, never. Men who are far less famous have done everything and anything to be with children. Sandusky started a charity. Early Bradley went to med school. Theodore McCarrick became a bishop.
Never underestimate a pedophile. Ever.
| by Anonymous | reply 41 | June 19, 2023 1:43 AM |
Howard Stern was onto him very early, wasn't he?
Not that you needed to be a genius.
| by Anonymous | reply 43 | June 19, 2023 1:46 AM |
He was a pedophile, a drug abuser, and mentally insane. Dr. Conrad Murray did the world a favor.
| by Anonymous | reply 44 | June 19, 2023 1:47 AM |
A real case of money making a person worse.
| by Anonymous | reply 45 | June 19, 2023 1:49 AM |
There's a movie coming out about him next year, probably a hagiography. I wonder if more boys will come out of the woodwork and torpedo it's chances? Black people still like him, and they'll probably buy tickets regardless.
| by Anonymous | reply 46 | June 19, 2023 1:49 AM |
R46, plenty of black people never liked him, while a lot of his biggest stans are white people (especially Europeans)
| by Anonymous | reply 47 | June 19, 2023 1:51 AM |
DL was always onto him, aside from a few stans and trolls. Most of us knew what was up with his public "dates" with boys
| by Anonymous | reply 48 | June 19, 2023 1:52 AM |
Do you believe that story he came up with re the lightening of his skin? He said it was some sort of condition, didn't he?
| by Anonymous | reply 49 | June 19, 2023 1:53 AM |
[quote]DL was always onto him, aside from a few stans and trolls.
I think by and large gays can see through the bullshit when norms can not.
| by Anonymous | reply 50 | June 19, 2023 1:55 AM |
not that it was exactly subtle.
It's horrible even discussing it.
| by Anonymous | reply 51 | June 19, 2023 1:56 AM |
Jackson even sang about how evil he was and everyone shrugged it off.
Ah, your butt is mine, gon' tell you right, ah
Well, they say the sky's the limit
And to me that's really true, ah
But, my friend, you have seen nothin'
Just wait 'til I get through
Because I'm bad, I'm bad,
shamone (bad, bad, really, really bad)
And the whole world has to answer right now
| by Anonymous | reply 52 | June 19, 2023 1:57 AM |
Did it start with him? Was he groomed? Either way he was fucking scary. I would think kids would be creeped out by him if they had any functioning instincts.
| by Anonymous | reply 53 | June 19, 2023 2:02 AM |
The parents came across very badly. He bought some of them houses and shit. Children need guidance.
[quote]would think kids would be creeped out by him if they had any functioning instincts.
Not really. He offered them wonderland. It's just terrible when you really look at it. The whole story from beginning to end.
I remember creepy teachers at school. I could see the weirdos and freaks thru their fake bullshit from a very young age, most of the kids could not. Those teachers knew I could see them and hated me because of it.
(not that there were that many - but the teaching profession does attract weirdos).
| by Anonymous | reply 54 | June 19, 2023 2:10 AM |
Does a bear shit in the woods? The Emperor Has No Clothes, and MJ was this world's musical emperor for a long time. Far too many forgave him for what was so blatantly obvious, or chose to excuse or ignore it or deny it because he was idolized by millions.
| by Anonymous | reply 55 | June 19, 2023 2:10 AM |
What about that freaky marriage to Elvis's daughter?
It's quite a fucking story, isn't it?
| by Anonymous | reply 56 | June 19, 2023 2:13 AM |
R54 I bet he loathed the smart kids and like most bullies probably redirected himself when he saw a no win situation.
| by Anonymous | reply 57 | June 19, 2023 2:14 AM |
Did we ever find out how much he paid the Presley girl? She was swiftly brought into the equation when he was really getting cornered and paying out massive bucks of hush money. Did she really need the money?
| by Anonymous | reply 58 | June 19, 2023 2:16 AM |
She went on TV and told Diane Sawyer that she had sex with this freak. No amount of money in the world is worth humiliating yourself like that.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 59 | June 19, 2023 2:19 AM |
I hope she didn't have sex with him? That's gross.
| by Anonymous | reply 60 | June 19, 2023 2:21 AM |
& don't forget the Elizabeth Taylor friendship.
| by Anonymous | reply 61 | June 19, 2023 2:24 AM |
[QUOTE] Does a bear shit in the woods?
Sadly if you go on Twitter or Tumblr, the majority believe he isn't a pedo. Reddit has banned any mention of it. I started the thread because of this, hoping people here would agree with me that he was a prolific pedophile.
| by Anonymous | reply 62 | June 19, 2023 2:41 AM |
The public was way too demeaning to the Leaving Neverland subjects when it came out. Bunch of dumb backwards types who can't contain their disgust when men tell their stories of rape. They don't want to acknowledge guys can be vulnerable that way and can barely tolerate women who come forward.
| by Anonymous | reply 63 | June 19, 2023 2:44 AM |
Whether or not, black people liked him does not change the fact most of his vocal supporters and enablers were white: Liz Taylor, Brooke Shields, Lisa Marie Presley, Macaulay Culkin, etc. The mainstream media which was white-owned still played his music and backed him up. In fact, many black people felt Michael was a "sellout" and worshipped white features. Nobody at the time bought he had vitiligo and everyone was wondering "why he buy those little kids?" to be his own children. His effeminacy was also mocked a lot by black comics like Eddie Murphy, before the whole Neverland scandal, Mike was just seen as "a bit too sweet" like Luther Vandross.
| by Anonymous | reply 64 | June 19, 2023 2:46 AM |
La Toya Jackson was called "crazy" by the white media for calling out Michael at the time.
| by Anonymous | reply 65 | June 19, 2023 2:49 AM |
[quote]He continued to sleep in the same bed as children even AFTER being accused of pedophile.
That was the clincher for me. I could just about squint and believe that his arrested childhood might have explained some of his behaviors, but with a nine- or ten-figure music empire at stake you'd better believe his managers and record company execs would have shut that shit down once charges were being filed. Only a very powerful compulsion would have made him continue the same sketchy treatment of other people's kids against that sort of pressure once he was being called out about it in public.
I've read that it's common for pedophiles to believe that they have special insight and understanding of children and it's the world at large that misunderstands the nature of their relationships with minors. That fits MJ to a t.
| by Anonymous | reply 66 | June 19, 2023 2:53 AM |
R66 Yep. The fact he didn't stop after the first controversy says a lot. Completely removed from reality and many pedophiles rationalize their impulses and have a persecution complex. MJ did fit the criteria.
| by Anonymous | reply 67 | June 19, 2023 2:55 AM |
R53 I saw a documentary about Michael Jackson on VH1 or MTV in the mid-2000s. It talked about how when the Jackson 5 were on the road, everyone except Michael (who was a pretty young kid at the time) would have sex with groupies. Their father/manager also participated, and Michael had to share a room with him when travelling and was often it in while his dad had sex with teenage girls. That's gotta warp a kid.
There are also some vague rumors about Clive Davis molesting Michael. No idea if they're true though.
| by Anonymous | reply 69 | June 19, 2023 3:38 AM |
Mcauley Culkin was really messed up By MJ. His personality changed from outgoing kid to withdrawn and sullen . Mac told Joe Rogan he has a bleeding ulcer . That’s from the inner turmoil of denial
| by Anonymous | reply 71 | June 19, 2023 3:48 AM |
This is the first time we've been able to have a sensible discussion about pedophile Jacko without the Train Station Troll interfering.
| by Anonymous | reply 72 | June 19, 2023 3:59 AM |
Mac had a hard life, he was super smart, talented and charismatic child. His father was an absolute monster who would emotionally and physically abuse him because his father was a failed stage actor who used his dozen kids as vessels to live vicariously through. Mac was the most successful getting that John Hughes endorsement and thus Papa Culkin had a gravy train to exploit. So naturally MJ saw this parallel with his own chilldhood and bonded with Mac over it and most likely abused Mac. Either way, Mac couldn't win, at least he's happily married and is sober now.
| by Anonymous | reply 73 | June 19, 2023 5:31 AM |
Michael Jackson is abused and an abuser. To this day, people still defend him and it makes me sick.
| by Anonymous | reply 74 | August 5, 2023 11:34 PM |
Yes, but I also think there was a lot more crazy going on than simply being your garden variety pedo.
| by Anonymous | reply 75 | August 5, 2023 11:48 PM |
He not only was a pedophile, he tried to force the world to accept pedophilia.
| by Anonymous | reply 76 | August 6, 2023 1:00 AM |
What is it about this subject that it needs multiple concurrent threads?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 77 | August 8, 2023 2:58 AM |
It's a fucking mystery r77
| by Anonymous | reply 78 | August 8, 2023 11:39 PM |
"How did you know what bedtime was at Michael Jackson's ranch?"
"When the big hand touched the little hand"
| by Anonymous | reply 79 | August 9, 2023 11:16 AM |
La Toya I think was on a tv talk show one time and asked about it while he was alive, I think about the time of Billy Jean.
She said something like 'he had 30 little boys around him, sleeps with them, not dating any girls, what do you think is going on?'
That hidden room at Neverland. ((shudder))
| by Anonymous | reply 80 | August 9, 2023 11:22 AM |
The sad thing is that celebs with those criminal proclivities have a steady supply of victims. Often facilitated by the parents of the victims.
| by Anonymous | reply 81 | August 9, 2023 12:16 PM |
The fans who believe MJ could not possibly be a pedophile remind me of the fans who were shocked that Lance Armstrong, who became a multiple TDF champion approaching middle age after surviving cancer and a middling earlier career, was a drug cheat.
Cold, hard reality looks them in the face and they spin that into fantasies of how they want the world to be. Like Blanche Du Bois.
| by Anonymous | reply 82 | August 10, 2023 4:07 PM |
R76 There are a lot of people out there it seems still trying to force the world to accept pedophilia. It's sick.
I think MK, because of his own silent condemnation of his behavior, (even though to the public his song professed 'ain't nobody's business') 'told' on himself by letting his face be so surgically deformed it became what ended up looking like a horrible mask of a demented human being, monstrous. Seemed a kind of self-hatred. If you wanted to make a movie with a frightening pedophile you couldn't dream up one more hideous.
I knew people who were Jehovah's witnesses and were in his congregation. Went out in service door to door with him in earlier days. Said he was kind and soft spoken, went out in disguises. Genuinely believed in God. I really felt sorry for him because I think his father allowed things around him to happen no little boy should see, and it corrupted him. His priorities became skewed. I wonder if he was molested as a boy, I'm not saying the father did this but there were so many around him in the music world, business people, producers, all sorts of people that could have gotten to him. I wonder, like Judy Garland, he was given drugs to help him keep up the pace with the performing schedule in the Jackson 5. He was messed up from early on.
| by Anonymous | reply 83 | August 10, 2023 5:56 PM |
