Did Sufjan Steven finally come out? The bf's a bit... well I guess if their happy. Sufjan is so totally besotted by African American culture and music, I would be more shocked if he every even hooked up with white guy let alone dated one.

Anyway I thought he was quietly bisexual, a poster who claimed to be part of the scene in Brooklyn knew girls he hooked up with.

Did Sufjan Steven finally come out? BTW the two songs are terrible. Second rate Yeezus crap, which in itself was utter crap. Can someone please inform the Urban Hipsters it's no longer 2014.

Did Sufjan Steven finally come out? There is no question 808s & Heartbreak is perhaps the most influential album in terms of urban hipsters, Age of Adz was an 808s & Heartbreak rip off, Sufjan's music has never recovered. And his work in Sisyphu is eternally unforgivable.

Did Sufjan Steven finally come out? You're right r35, and I've asked myself why I just cannot connect to his music anymore. I feel there are some Simon & Garfunkel influences on Carrie and Lowell and they were the best songs on the record, but I feel like he maybe thinks he is too cool to embrace them and then has to employ obligatory electronic / urban sounds to counter act them. So in my mind I always feel Sufjan is an Urban Hipster first and a musician second, and I feel that is something he is ware of and a very deliberate decision.

And I think that's the main issue I have with him, it seems to me his is totally anchored to a place, a scene, a style, a trend, a sound, a look and cannot move away from it, his music is so constrained by it and there for their is no fluidness or freedom or naturalness in is work.

I think maybe guarding his sexuality may have been a part of that as well.

Did Sufjan Steven finally come out? Actually r42, I find Sufjan too mainstream.

Did Sufjan Steven finally come out? [quote]That's such a strange position to have considering his sound's been evolving since he started. Sure, there are stylistic trends throughout his work, but A Sun Came doesn't sound like Illinoise, which doesn't sound like Seven Swans, which doesn't sound like Age of Adz, which doesn't sound like Carrie and Lowell.

That is a fair point, I think, maybe I'm looking for reason not to like his music and unfairly criticize his work , when the truth is I don't like him. I mean I don't know him and he doesn't come off as a massive asshole like Justin Vernon, well sometimes he does. But I don't like the whole Brooklyn Urban Day Glo Hipster thing. His performance at Coachella, distilled that. I find the whole thing ugly and vacuous and unpleasant and hideously pretentious it is contrived unpretentiousness. It's just something I cannot reconcile with.

For instance I adored St Vincent, 'til the same thing took hold of her, especially for Masseduction.

Did Sufjan Steven finally come out? Carrie and Lowell tour, Is that where is did the woeful Hotline Bling cover? Still pretty douchbro Coachella.

Did Sufjan Steven finally come out? Poor Sufjan, I feel I'm too harsh toward him, but I doubt he cares and I doubt he reads DL