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Corpses on Mount Everest

Writer Andrew Hansen

You die there, you stay there. What an awful death that must be.

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by Anonymousreply 90March 10, 2019 3:39 PM

No - people reportedly feel warm and sleepy and blissful as they sink into hypothermia.

Not bad at all, considering.

by Anonymousreply 2March 10, 2019 2:24 AM

Not according to the articles I'm reading tonight. Bodies shaking spasmodically. People crying out for help. People remaining conscious but exposed over night.

by Anonymousreply 3March 10, 2019 2:26 AM

[quote]People crying out for help

Kinda like "If a tree falls in the woods ... " don'tcha think?

by Anonymousreply 4March 10, 2019 2:31 AM

Awful images. The first guy looks in good condition, though. I wonder why he didn't just get up and walk down the mountain?

by Anonymousreply 5March 10, 2019 2:37 AM

R4, there aren't many other "trees" around, but just enough to record this happening. Apparently something similar happened to Francys Arsentiev.

by Anonymousreply 7March 10, 2019 2:40 AM

Probably he just wanted attention - -

by Anonymousreply 8March 10, 2019 2:40 AM

Did these people hike alone . . . or did their hiking buddies who went with them leave them behind????

by Anonymousreply 9March 10, 2019 2:44 AM

He had an ice-cold ass, but he couldn’t live forever!

by Anonymousreply 10March 10, 2019 2:46 AM

Is it Everest season again? I love the posts about the idiot climbers

by Anonymousreply 11March 10, 2019 2:51 AM

Holy shit. It is creepy and kinda poetic at the same time.

But I will never understand why people undertake such a mortally dangerous journey. I would nevah!

by Anonymousreply 12March 10, 2019 2:55 AM

Oh, honey, we have this thread every year. Just wait until May.

by Anonymousreply 13March 10, 2019 2:56 AM

R13 Yahhh for climbing season, better be longer than last year

by Anonymousreply 14March 10, 2019 3:00 AM

The guy in OP's post had some meaty thighs, yum.

by Anonymousreply 15March 10, 2019 3:01 AM

I got hooked on all the stories around David Breashears, Rob Hall, Ed Viesturs, Antatoli Boukreev and Scott Fisher.

One of the best threads on DL.

by Anonymousreply 16March 10, 2019 3:02 AM

R16 Fucking Scott Fisher that wanker

by Anonymousreply 18March 10, 2019 3:03 AM

Oh no R15 you’re straight now!

by Anonymousreply 20March 10, 2019 3:16 AM

Two Sherpas died trying to recover the body of Hannelore Schmaltz. Eventually a storm shoved her over the edge, out of sight and down the Kangshung face.

Those frozen bodies weight three times as much because of all the frozen ice. Rescuers have to carve the bodies from the frozen ground which is incredibly difficult at high altitude.

by Anonymousreply 21March 10, 2019 3:16 AM

Everest is like Grand Central Station these days, guided tours all over the place, lots of crowds and lots of clueless unprepared fools. Also trash everywhere, idiots tossing aside all sorts of junk.

by Anonymousreply 22March 10, 2019 3:17 AM

r19 r20 With no face, he can believe whatever he wants to about those sexy thighs!

by Anonymousreply 23March 10, 2019 3:20 AM

Anyone have links to the previous related threads?

by Anonymousreply 24March 10, 2019 3:20 AM

I'm sure that's how they would've wanted it.

by Anonymousreply 25March 10, 2019 3:22 AM

We've done this thread before.

by Anonymousreply 26March 10, 2019 3:29 AM

Lesson to be taken from this - don't sit down and stop. Keep moving no matter what.

by Anonymousreply 27March 10, 2019 3:32 AM

OP's pictures is the body of German mountaineer Hannelore Schmalz.

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by Anonymousreply 28March 10, 2019 3:40 AM

OP picture looks like a dude. Jacking off.

by Anonymousreply 29March 10, 2019 3:44 AM

Here's pre-mummification Hannelore:

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by Anonymousreply 30March 10, 2019 3:45 AM

I tried to Mount Everest, but he was a top.

by Anonymousreply 31March 10, 2019 3:50 AM

[quote]Did these people hike alone . . . or did their hiking buddies who went with them leave them behind????

Not many people will risk their life to bring down another person. It's treacherous on your own, but trying to rescue someone who has been compromised can easily turn into a suicide mission. There's many stories of people walking past climbers who are dying but they wouldn't stop to help.

by Anonymousreply 32March 10, 2019 3:54 AM

Read the book, "I Fell Off Mount Everest," by Eileen Dover.

by Anonymousreply 34March 10, 2019 4:00 AM

They've actually cleared the mountain of most of these bodies including green boots

by Anonymousreply 35March 10, 2019 4:02 AM

My 60ish sister and her 70ish boyfriend climbed Mt. Kilimanjaro. This guy is about the stupidest man I know. He must have an IQ around 90. He made her pledge with him, that if either felt to ill to continue, the other would continue on. That’s, possibly, something the pros might do, but these were athletic geriatrics who had never climbed a mountain before. What a foolish pledge. My sister almost died. Her Sherpa carried her down, and she developed some kind of heart problem.

I hate that guy. He isn’t even safe to walk around the US with, nevermind Africa. He’s got no street sense and has the kind of “machismo” problems that leads people into situations that are unsafe because they are to much of a pussy to admit they’re afraid, or in trouble, etc.

He’s claimed that he doesn’t worry at walking alone in these remote areas of Africa because he’ll assume the “warrior stance” and then the thugs leave him alone. If they do, it’s solely out of pity. A 70-80 year old man thinking he’s intimidating! How pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 36March 10, 2019 4:05 AM

At least you're dying doing what you love. I mean it's way worse getting cancer.

by Anonymousreply 37March 10, 2019 4:09 AM

r22 say what you will about Russell Brice, but he's said there should be organized clean-ups for years. I think Himex also did some limited clean ups from their own camps, but I could've mis-remembered that.

r36 not to be that guy, but they don't have Sherpa in Africa.

by Anonymousreply 38March 10, 2019 4:10 AM

[quote]He’s claimed that he doesn’t worry at walking alone in these remote areas of Africa because he’ll assume the “warrior stance” and then the thugs leave him alone. If they do, it’s solely out of pity. A 70-80 year old man thinking he’s intimidating! How pathetic.

I'm sorry for your sister, but I just laughed so hard reading this. It's like playing dead for a bear.

by Anonymousreply 39March 10, 2019 4:11 AM

The guy who coined the term "abominable snowman" was pretty hot

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by Anonymousreply 40March 10, 2019 4:13 AM

Except, R37, that when you die of cancer, you die in broken health, unable to go on. When you die climbing Everest, you die, pardon the pun, in peak condition, with the promise of many more years ahead of you.

by Anonymousreply 41March 10, 2019 4:14 AM

If you're gonna climb Mount Everest remember to wear clean underwear

by Anonymousreply 42March 10, 2019 4:19 AM

R41, but I think even the very healthy people understand that climbing Everest is a risk - that it's different than say, doing Iron Man where you can train. No one is truly prepared for the conditions Everest throws at you no matter how many smaller mountains you climb.

by Anonymousreply 43March 10, 2019 4:20 AM

Link to one of the threads, there's a part II as well.

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by Anonymousreply 44March 10, 2019 4:21 AM

Why doesn't the state cultivate snow leopards or something up there, to drag such refuse away?

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by Anonymousreply 45March 10, 2019 4:21 AM

r5- also lack of oxygen, so you suffocate.

by Anonymousreply 46March 10, 2019 4:26 AM

What a dumb and useless hobby.

by Anonymousreply 47March 10, 2019 4:36 AM

I agree with the poster who said at least they died doing something they all loved. Beats dying sitting on the couch in front of the TV while eating potato chips and drinking beer. Oh wait...that would be dying while doing something I love.

by Anonymousreply 48March 10, 2019 4:38 AM

My cousin is one of those douchebags who does things like this and expects the "silver service" climbing experience where the sherpas practically prepare a banquet several times on the way up.

I mean are you really going camping if you're able to plug in a a hairdryer?

by Anonymousreply 49March 10, 2019 4:39 AM

Is the experience for the sherpas special and transcendental like it is for the westerners, or is it just a high paying gig that they don't mind risking their lives for (or more likely a couple fingers and an ear) ?

by Anonymousreply 50March 10, 2019 4:40 AM

I was attacked by a yeti...

by Anonymousreply 51March 10, 2019 4:47 AM

R36, there are no Sherpas in Tanzania!

by Anonymousreply 52March 10, 2019 4:50 AM

Thank you for being “that guy”, but I did not want to bother looking up the Tanzanian equivalent of sherpa. Guide, perhaps.

I know they are Christians and in the Masai tribe. My sister still does a of charity work for them, a decade later.

by Anonymousreply 53March 10, 2019 4:58 AM

R53 so their climb was ten years ago? And the now 80 something boyfriend is still at it?

by Anonymousreply 54March 10, 2019 5:09 AM

The latter, r50. Sherpas are well suited to high altitude living but they have one of the most stressful and dangerous jobs in the world and they, understandably, resent Everest tourists who need to be carried down, jeopardizing the lives of multiple Sherpas. IIRC, the Sherpas have a high incidence of alcoholism.

by Anonymousreply 55March 10, 2019 5:15 AM

Their climb was probably a decade ago. He might even be 90 now.

He is one of two true hypochondriacs that I know. He’s always got something, from a shoulder injury, MRSA, gout, lymphoma (unless it was leukemia), etc. He went to my Dad’s 80th birthday party and as soon as he got there, made the night all about himself, until my sister had to leave the party just after arriving to take him home. It always winds up being about him. Oh, he went anti-gluten for 6 months, just long enough to make the holiday meals all about him, and then dropped it. Of course, everybody turns him off immediately because of his history.

by Anonymousreply 57March 10, 2019 5:31 AM

China is limiting the number of climbers this year and will be taking steps to clean the mountain, including removing bodies in the danger zone.

by Anonymousreply 59March 10, 2019 5:53 AM

R36 R57 Sadly enough that doesn't surprise me because it sounds exactly like a lot of people climbing these mountains. It's not them dying doing something they love, it's them dying because they wanted to climb even if they haven't done much climbing before and they know that just paying someone to help gets them most of the way. They give real mountain climbers a bad name and lots of mountain climbers really hate the way the big mountains are being managed and polluted by these kinds of people.

by Anonymousreply 60March 10, 2019 5:57 AM

Mount Rushmore is no prize either.

by Anonymousreply 61March 10, 2019 7:01 AM

If the Sherpas were smart, they'd form like a union and increase what they charge tenfold. There will always be people looking to climb and they inevitably need guides.

by Anonymousreply 62March 10, 2019 7:19 AM

“Form like a union”, R62? You’re not very well traveled, are you?

by Anonymousreply 63March 10, 2019 7:36 AM

R30 That's not her. That is Wanda Rutkiewicz. The first woman to climb K2.

This is Hannelore.

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by Anonymousreply 64March 10, 2019 8:01 AM

Most of these climbers sound like selfish psychopaths. Is it really worth it to trample over the dying to reach your goal?

by Anonymousreply 65March 10, 2019 8:25 AM

r30 The one on the left is Hannelore, the one on the right is Wanda, who the hell knows who r64's photo is

by Anonymousreply 67March 10, 2019 8:55 AM

[quote]that it's different than say, doing Iron Man where you can train.

Why would you need to train if you want to be Iron Man. The suit does all the work.

by Anonymousreply 68March 10, 2019 8:57 AM

Why are the bodies still there. Wouldn’t just touching them shatter them into a million pieces?

by Anonymousreply 69March 10, 2019 8:58 AM

[quote]Most of these climbers sound like selfish psychopaths. Is it really worth it to trample over the dying to reach your goal?

From what I gather most of the "dying" are just tired and confused people. It would be pretty hard to help them, if they say they are too tired to move. People did try to help Hannelore, but she was too tired and didn't want to leave that spot, along w/a guide. They assume she died from exhaustion and hyperthermia. In the article linked at R64, they said she might have suffered from confusion as well, since she was only 300 feet from the base camp.

by Anonymousreply 70March 10, 2019 9:03 AM

I just would not put myself in that kind of dangerous situation.

by Anonymousreply 71March 10, 2019 9:05 AM

I'm so looking forward to the 2019 Everest climbing season!

It's so rare one gets a chance to hold a death watch with a clear conscience, but then everyone who's up there risking death has gone to tremendous trouble to get into a position where they're likely to die.

by Anonymousreply 72March 10, 2019 9:06 AM

I don’t understand people spending thousands and thousands of dollars to risk losing fingers and toes or death just to climb a mountain and immediately descend. It’s not like you can take a picnic and gambol around the top for a few hours.

Who the fuck wants to vacation that way? Give me a hammock under a palm tree and a drink with exotic fruit in it brought to me by a young native man.

by Anonymousreply 74March 10, 2019 1:28 PM

[quote]He made her pledge with him, that if either felt to ill to continue

Oh, dear!

[quote]They assume she died from exhaustion and hyperthermia.

Oh, DEAR!

by Anonymousreply 76March 10, 2019 2:00 PM

[quote]Mount Rushmore is no prize either.

And it wasn't very sporting of them, using REAL bullets.

by Anonymousreply 77March 10, 2019 2:25 PM

It is actually a huge problem. All these people who go to climb Everest. The bodies, the garbage they leave behind, the human waste - (yes people just shit on Everest and leave it). It has turned the majestic mountain into a literal shit hole.

by Anonymousreply 78March 10, 2019 2:29 PM

The mountain is a herd thinning mechanism for people with more money than sense.

by Anonymousreply 79March 10, 2019 2:30 PM

My favorite dialogue about Everest.

Dr. Niles Crane : Frasier, are you familiar with the Safari Club? Dr. Frasier Crane : Of course. Their yearly expeditions are remarkable. Dr. Niles Crane : They're legendary. Last year they made camp at the base of Mount Everest, then had their servants climb it while they held a wine tasting.

by Anonymousreply 80March 10, 2019 2:42 PM

R57 So what's the problem with your sister? Cannot be alone under any circumstances?

by Anonymousreply 81March 10, 2019 2:58 PM

[quote] There is no firm count of the exact number of climbers that have died on Mount Everest, but as of 2016, about 280 climbers have died, about 6.5 percent of the more than 4,000 climbers who have reached the summit

[quote] One Death for Every 10 Ascents Prior to 2007

[quote] Most Die While Descending

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by Anonymousreply 82March 10, 2019 3:15 PM

I dated a mountain climber for a couple of years- he did Africa, Machu Picchu and Mt. Whitney. He took me on a smaller (11,000) 2 day climb and it was just you trudging with crampons and a 50+ lbs backpack on, sometimes sideways (because of the steepness of the incline). I think a lot of people discount altitude sickness (apparently women take longer to adjust) and oxygen deprivation. Just to say you got to the top. No thanks.

My impression of why he did this was sort of why like sailors love the sea.

by Anonymousreply 83March 10, 2019 3:26 PM

[quote]r59 China is limiting the number of climbers this year and will be taking steps to clean the mountain, including removing bodies in the danger zone.

For some reason, that made me laugh. Oy!

But really, I'd think the climb would be more exciting with the corpses of "losers" dotting the way, kind of like a Disneyland ride or something.

It would make those smugly pressing forward feel even more victorious.

by Anonymousreply 84March 10, 2019 3:26 PM

[quote] (yes people just shit on Everest and leave it).

What the fuck do you expect them to do, carry a baggie down with them? It’s nature!

by Anonymousreply 85March 10, 2019 3:27 PM

[quote]r82 Most Die While Descending

Why don't they just roll themselves into a ball, and roll down the hill?

That doesn't take much effort.

by Anonymousreply 86March 10, 2019 3:29 PM

I’d rather die of cancer with an endless supply of fentanyl, rather than freeze to death or crack my skull open on a frozen rock.

by Anonymousreply 87March 10, 2019 3:31 PM

R86 got a real good chucle out of me.

by Anonymousreply 88March 10, 2019 3:33 PM

[quote]r87 I’d rather die of cancer with an endless supply of fentany --- Hospice is lovely this time of year

^^ Yes ... and loved ones filing in with flowery tributes ... maybe cookies?

And then, the write-ups! Illustrated with the best pic of you ever taken! (LEAVE SEVERAL COPIES, CLEARLY LABELED!!)

by Anonymousreply 89March 10, 2019 3:35 PM

Most middle class people who survive the climb next begin careers as motivational speakers.

by Anonymousreply 90March 10, 2019 3:39 PM