Another victim of the smiley face killer or something else? DL sleuths, let's dig in!

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by Anonymous

reply 56

December 29, 2022 8:46 PM

Drunk people in ultra-cold places do die of exposure. They pass out and freeze to death. Not saying that's what happened, but maybe a possibility?

by Anonymous

reply 4

December 27, 2022 5:32 AM

He qualifies as a twink? Not seeing it.

by Anonymous

reply 5

December 27, 2022 5:33 AM

We really need an alert that tells you if your link in an original post is already in an existing original post.

by Anonymous

reply 7

December 27, 2022 5:34 AM

20 years old. Barely got to see the world as an adult. Very sad, rest in peace.

by Anonymous

reply 8

December 27, 2022 5:37 AM

From a guy on Facebopok who knew him

[quote] He’d been at a bar drinking with friends and left at 2 am not wearing a winter jacket, gloves, or any winter wear, despite a cap, in subzero temperatures.

Seriously? He probably died of hypothermia and frostbite.

by Anonymous

reply 9

December 27, 2022 5:41 AM

^ but if that were the case surely the police would’ve already stated those details? The fact that they haven’t release any details surrounding the body or death makes me suspect more might be involved.

by Anonymous

reply 10

December 27, 2022 5:44 AM

Jesus God in Heaven, why'dya have to kill such hot snatch?

by Anonymous

reply 11

December 27, 2022 5:46 AM

A bar? Who goes to bars anymore besides winos?

by Anonymous

reply 13

December 27, 2022 6:14 AM

I hope he wasn't murdered by a sick predator. We must be weary of those who use our culture to lurk and do us harm.

by Anonymous

reply 14

December 27, 2022 6:18 AM

He likely froze to death and quickly. I live in Wisconsin and the temps were dire that night. Poor guy.

by Anonymous

reply 15

December 27, 2022 6:38 AM

Weather channel is reporting that 26 people died in Buffalo due to the bad weather, and according to Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown, some victims “were trying to walk out during storm conditions, got disoriented and passed away out in the street." They had other people who died from "cardiac events" while they were trying to shovel or blow snow.

by Anonymous

reply 16

December 27, 2022 8:25 AM

" but if that were the case surely the police would’ve already stated those details? The fact that they haven’t release any details surrounding the body or death makes me suspect more might be involved."

I think they'd wait for the autopsy, even if it were obvious. True, they could say "appear to be no foul play" but they don't all the time. So, I think it still be related to the weather.

by Anonymous

reply 17

December 27, 2022 4:32 PM

Why is a 20 year old drinking in an American bar?

by Anonymous

reply 18

December 27, 2022 4:46 PM

Because 20 year olds drink at American bars.

by Anonymous

reply 19

December 27, 2022 4:57 PM

Who served him alcohol or who approved the alcohol. Someone should be liable because the law in all 50 states in 21 or over. only exceptions are states with laws that allow parents to approve people under 21 to drink, I think Ohio has such a law on teh books. But the parent or adult must be present.

by Anonymous

reply 20

December 27, 2022 5:03 PM

R19, I don't know where the fuck you are from. Maybe Alaska. Here in tge continental states, those under 21 cannot drink in bars without a fake ID or a bartender that's fucked up.

by Anonymous

reply 21

December 27, 2022 5:23 PM

Duh, R21. I'm saying that 20 year olds find ways to drink in bars, not that it's legal. Fake IDs, bars where they know someone that will look the other way, legal-aged friends who pass along a drink. It's not as common now, but kids still do it. Or he was just hammered before he went to the bar.

by Anonymous

reply 22

December 27, 2022 5:35 PM

Sheriff apparently has video of him and is reporting he died of cold weather exposure:

[quote] "A progression of video footage from traffic and surveillance cameras tracked an individual matching Musser's description as he traveled alone and on foot, leading from downtown Stillwater towards the area where his body was ultimately located," the sheriff's office announced Wednesday.

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reply 23

December 28, 2022 7:22 PM

Young men and alcohol. Always a winning combination.

by Anonymous

reply 24

December 28, 2022 7:38 PM

[quote] Anni Weber (his aunt and godmother) said police have found video of George throughout town in the time after he left Brian's. She said her nephew had been drinking and was disoriented.

If it's proven that "Brian's Bar & Grill" served him, then the proprietor will more than likely face a wrongful death lawsuit. If the community is as tight-knit as everyone seems to be saying, then they obviously knew he was underage. Of course, maybe he brought his own flask.

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reply 25

December 28, 2022 8:18 PM

[quote]We must be weary of those who use our culture to lurk and do us harm.

Oh, trust me hun, we are sooo weary!

by Anonymous

reply 27

December 28, 2022 8:27 PM

[quote] Musser's father is the orchestra director at Stillwater High School.

Okay, maybe small town teacher's don't make that much, but they're going for a $100,000 GoFundMe for funeral expenses?

[quote] We know George has entered heaven and God and all of his family in heaven will take care of him until we can see him again. We are raising money to help his family with his funeral expenses and to help them through financially as they grieve the loss of an amazing son and brother.

They're already up to $53,000.

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reply 28

December 28, 2022 8:36 PM

Terrible. I've gone out in the freezing cold when drunk to get fresh air, even walked around the block a couple times convinced I could "walk it off" some. But, I was never drunk enough to stray too far or not know to go back inside.

His body may have felt flush/warm from the alcohol and he maybe didn't feel anything at first. It's just awful that he set forth and couldn't find his way back and couldn't or didn't ask for help.

by Anonymous

reply 29

December 29, 2022 2:21 AM

Why the hell do they need $100,000 to burry someone? If a poor person can get buried for a couple thousand then 100k is a grift.

Also, can we please push for more cremations? No use wasting good land on the dead when in 100 years everything that cares about any of us will be dead or too old to visit our graves.

by Anonymous

reply 30

December 29, 2022 2:24 AM

There was a case a few years ago in Duluth, MN, where friends dropped off a girl after a night of partying and it was freezing cold. Dropped her off on the street and took off - no waiting to make sure she got inside like nearly all friends do. The girl went to the wrong house, one over from her building, and couldn't figure it out. She ended up passing out or laying down in the snow and freezing - not to death, but she had to have limbs amputated from the frostbite.

by Anonymous

reply 31

December 29, 2022 2:26 AM

[quote] white dude

Why do you need to announce his whiteness?

by Anonymous

reply 32

December 29, 2022 2:31 AM

r32 because DL is overrun with Russians and racists. They knew someone would ask that question and then hope that a debate occurs were we inevitable blame "wokeness" or whatever. Seen this game play out over and over since that Orange Devil joined the national discourse.

by Anonymous

reply 33

December 29, 2022 2:33 AM

FFS r33 Trump is living rent-free in your head. Get a life.

Poor kid. This happens quite a bit with people. Drunk and disoriented and something awful happens.

by Anonymous

reply 34

December 29, 2022 2:39 AM

Drunk and disoriented is no way to go through life.

That’s why it ended.

by Anonymous

reply 35

December 29, 2022 2:40 AM

r34 you must be new here because that is what's happened to DL. Since 2016 we've been overrun with trolls. That is why people like OP put race into the title of this thread, to get a rise out of people. DL used to be a much more pleasant site and took a hard turn in 2016. Yes, Trump remains the object of my rage, he and his thugs have caused havoc.

Downvote me if you want, but r32 asked the question, I answered.

by Anonymous

reply 36

December 29, 2022 2:43 AM

$100,000 damn. Like to cremate my dad cause 1100 bucks so really what the hell do they need that much money for I mean I'm sad they lost their son but that's just greed.

by Anonymous

reply 37

December 29, 2022 2:46 AM

He was kind of cute but he couldn’t live forever.

by Anonymous

reply 38

December 29, 2022 2:50 AM

Stupid people drink alcohol to make themselves more stupid.

by Anonymous

reply 39

December 29, 2022 2:54 AM

[quote]Drunk and disoriented is no way to go through life.

FFS he was a 20 year-old kid out having fun with his friends.

You may have been at home crocheting with Mother at that age, but most young people go out and get pissed with their friends.

by Anonymous

reply 40

December 29, 2022 2:54 AM

[quote] young people go out and get pissed with their friends.

In order to do what?

And why do they need booze to do it?

by Anonymous

reply 41

December 29, 2022 2:58 AM

$100,000??! What in the fuck.

by Anonymous

reply 42

December 29, 2022 2:59 AM

I have had some serious drinking nights—including in bars at 20—but good lord, how much do you have to drink to get *that* disoriented and insensitive to cold?

by Anonymous

reply 43

December 29, 2022 3:00 AM

r41 most young people go out and have a good time with their friends in bars. JFC sorry you never had any opportunities.

by Anonymous

reply 44

December 29, 2022 3:02 AM

Seems like a lot of people here aren't familiar with college kids who are 20, and what they do on Christmas break. Yes, they have very convincing fake IDs. Yes, they go to bars with their friends to get drunk. Yes, they go to different bars - not just one.

If "Brians B&G" is the only place he patronized and which served him, then the family has a good case. If he went to other bars that night (like most college kids do) then the family has a much tougher time trying to prove which bar is responsible. (I've sat in on a jury for a case like this).

by Anonymous

reply 45

December 29, 2022 3:03 AM

[quote] sorry you never had any opportunities.

Opportunities for what?

by Anonymous

reply 46

December 29, 2022 3:03 AM

[quote]I have had some serious drinking nights—including in bars at 20—but good lord, how much do you have to drink to get *that* disoriented and insensitive to cold?

Same here. I partied hard in my 20s (and don't regret anything - it was a fabulous time in my life) but no matter how fucked up I got I always managed to get home safely. Or to a friend's place. Or to some guy's place and have great sex.

by Anonymous

reply 47

December 29, 2022 3:09 AM

R47 "no matter how fucked up I got I always managed to get home safely"

If only every college kid would be like you!

by Anonymous

reply 48

December 29, 2022 3:12 AM

Don't hate r48. It's not a good look on you.

by Anonymous

reply 49

December 29, 2022 3:13 AM

He probably took a benzos too. Kids that age love xanax. I've never seen anything like it.

by Anonymous

reply 50

December 29, 2022 3:38 AM

My friends who I go out with and went out with wouldn't let me just wander off. We watched over each other. His friends clearly weren't keeping tabs on each other.

by Anonymous

reply 51

December 29, 2022 3:40 AM

[quote] Downvote me if you want, but [R32] asked the question, I answered.

This isn’t Reddit. There’s no downvoting.

by Anonymous

reply 52

December 29, 2022 4:33 AM

Even death has become a grift

by Anonymous

reply 54

December 29, 2022 5:39 PM

I had to Google r53's extremely outdated reference.

by Anonymous

reply 55

December 29, 2022 7:53 PM

2022 has been a rough year for the twinks.

by Anonymous

reply 56

December 29, 2022 8:46 PM