This thread is kind of cra-cra, which is the first clue of troll-fuckery.

OP, let me help you put some context around your post. AA was the first. It will not be the last. AA is just part of the story of human evolution. For some people, it really does work and helps them build a *beautiful* life. For other people, it is cultish, judgmental, toxic, misguided, and misinformed. What if I told you all of these things are true? What does it even mean?

It means that as we evolve and continue to grow in our understanding of the human condition, ergo our strategies to solve the great problems of our day will be ever-changing, ever-adapting, ever-pointing forward. Will AA still be standing 100 years from now? I don’t know. Has it saved people? Yes. Was it based on spiritual (Christian) principles? Yes. Do some meetings lean more intellectual and not Christian at all? Yes. Do some meetings lean toward even New Age/Buddhist/Granola vibes? Yes. Has it restored entire families? Yes. Has it helped people repair the wreckage of their past? Yes. Has it forced people to learn how important individual responsibility is? Yes. Does it use a model that is flawed? Yes. Does the good outweigh the bad? Yes.

I could play this game forever. My point is that there is something called nuance, and there is something called evolution. Live and let live OP. You think you know everything, but you know nothing, and neither do I. Keep yourself in check and I will do the same.

Nobody KILLED Matthew Perry, that is an outrageous claim. If anything killed Matthew, it was either life itself, or Matthew, or a combination of the two. He had access to the most cutting-edge knowledge and support available to humanity, and I trust that he did the best he could with that. For me, his message doesn’t change with his death, and let’s face it — only someone who knows their days are numbered would show their ass like he did. He chose at the end to be completely raw and real to help people who are on the farthest end of the spectrum of addiction not have to feel as much shame. That is what matters the most. His MESSAGE is what counts, how he struggled to live is what counts. Who gives a fuck what tools he picked? He picked what resonated the most with him.

Anyone reading this who is an addict or an abuser of substances — you are a beautiful beautiful person, in spite of every single thing you’ve done. It’s ok. You are ok. This life IS hard, so keep fighting to find your way to the light. Keep fighting to be as honest with yourself as you possibly can. Try to forgive yourself when you fuck it all up again. I am telling you that this life is truly about coming full circle to finding yourself and self-actualization — if you can keep it. It’s hard, and so many don’t even get a glimmer of what that feels like. Keep moving toward other people because we belong to each other. Matthew definitely understood that we belong to each other, that is why he shared his story so openly. The harder we love people, the more we will heal. Maybe the spot where he got stuck was just being able to fully love other people — but he still tried to by sharing it ALL!!! Regardless of him dying sober or using, his message is still more powerful that his demons.